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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    you don't need an AI with Tbol . in fact you don't need an AI with most all steroids (as only a few steroids aromatize into estrogen, 90% of them don't). AI's are over rated, over used, and not necessary except in some situations (like situations where estrogen sensitive guys continue to run test only cycles despite knowing they don't tolerate test very well).

    and no you wouldn't need Nolva with Tbol either (it doesn't aromatize, it doesn't act on progestin or estrogen receptors either)
    Thanks gear headed! You're a wealth of information. One last thing on Tbol while I've got your attention, what can someone expect to get in size gains on Tbol compared to Adrol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ads21 View Post
    Thanks gear headed! You're a wealth of information. One last thing on Tbol while I've got your attention, what can someone expect to get in size gains on Tbol compared to Adrol?
    Tbol is not super water and nutrient retentive like Anadrol is. its good at shuttling glucose into muscle cells, which will bring with it some amount of water into the muscle, thus a little bit more weight and size.. but anadrol will partition pretty much everything into muscle cells as well as volumize your blood . so your going to gain much more weight and size with Adrol.. Tbol will give you more the slow steady tissue growth like most pure anabolics do (which takes time for proteins to be constructed)

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    Quote Originally Posted by GearHeaded View Post
    Tbol is not super water and nutrient retentive like Anadrol is. its good at shuttling glucose into muscle cells, which will bring with it some amount of water into the muscle, thus a little bit more weight and size.. but anadrol will partition pretty much everything into muscle cells as well as volumize your blood . so your going to gain much more weight and size with Adrol.. Tbol will give you more the slow steady tissue growth like most pure anabolics do (which takes time for proteins to be constructed)
    with anadrol; I hear most of the gains are just water moreso than dbol; in fact I hear people say dbol gains are more keepable. What do you say about that? Im hearing people while running test take anadrol for like 4 weeks; but 2 weeks after all the gains(strength and size) they made just disappear; I thought the whole point of taking anabolics was to put on muscle tissue whether its dbol, winstrol, var, tren, etc.; is anadrol mainly used for cosmetic purposes only? I did hear of someone do an anadrol cycle(under genetic limit though) gain like 30lbs or so and kept 20lbs months after their anadrol only cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 5millionbucks View Post
    with anadrol; I hear most of the gains are just water moreso than dbol; in fact I hear people say dbol gains are more keepable. What do you say about that? Im hearing people while running test take anadrol for like 4 weeks; but 2 weeks after all the gains(strength and size) they made just disappear; I thought the whole point of taking anabolics was to put on muscle tissue whether its dbol, winstrol, var, tren, etc.; is anadrol mainly used for cosmetic purposes only? I did hear of someone do an anadrol cycle(under genetic limit though) gain like 30lbs or so and kept 20lbs months after their anadrol only cycle.
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.
    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.

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    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    This is why it is importand to never stop taking drugs.
    I think Obs summed this up better than GH. Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Family_guy View Post
    I think Obs summed this up better than GH. Lol
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    Preview: Eat a whole bunch of stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.

    If they even show up at the gym after that....
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeeCee112 View Post
    I'll take a swing at this:
    Dbol and Android will dramatically increase water retention, nutrient absorption, nitrogen, protein synthesis ect and strength no matter what you do. What you do while those enhancements are in effect will determine what you retain after stopping the drug. IE you will lose size and strength when the water retention fades but if you took advantage of those increased values via nutrition, sleep and training and proper PCT protocol to prevent catabolic losses you will come out that much better than before.

    I think everyone has seen the guys in their early 20s at the gym grab dbol or anadrol, get jacked in a couple of months, buy all new clothes, get new attitude then a couple months later be back in their old clothes and then blame the compound.
    yeah but what about the guys who run test with anadrol; after coming off the anadrol as a kickstart they lose most of the water and strength that comes from it?

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