Continual Growth - Advanced AAS protocols

[HoldMyBeer]

I read all the posts on this forum but I am hesitant to try either of the examples since I am still fairly new to AAS. I was on TRT for a year and a half before I tried a blast phase for 11 weeks of 600mg test e weekly and started 50 mg anavar daily after week 3. I want to try this phase cycling so I can get the best result while maintaining as much of my gains and not feel like dogshit after coming off cycle, at least not until the 18 months is up. I've had experience with this stuff for almost 2 years now and am willing to try phase cycling. Is there a phase cycling protocol that a beginner can try?

You felt like shit because you took an oral for 8 weeks
Although anavar is less toxic than other oral (apparently because it's breakdown is separated between the kidneys and liver, instead of just the liver. Unconfirmed though), it's still toxic.
Phase cycling has nothing to do with keeping gains, that all has to do with what you do when your cycle ends (diet, training, pct, etc)
Keep it simple, you will see the exact same results

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[Family_guy]

You felt like shit because you took an oral for 8 weeks
Although anavar is less toxic than other oral (apparently because it's breakdown is separated between the kidneys and liver, instead of just the liver. Unconfirmed though), it's still toxic.
Phase cycling has nothing to do with keeping gains, that all has to do with what you do when your cycle ends (diet, training, pct, etc)
Keep it simple, you will see the exact same results

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You really think taking anavar for 8 weeks is the cause? It may be but I have a very hard time believing that man.

I just read a study about Anadrol. Guys were given 50mg/ or 100mg/ day and they measured all the usual Health markers specifically testing its ability to increase red blood cell count. This study was 12 weeks I believe. They reported that liver enzymes increased for both groups but literally the day after they stopped the drol their enzymes were in range again!!

Maybe I can find it if someone’s interested

[HoldMyBeer]

You really think taking anavar for 8 weeks is the cause? It may be but I have a very hard time believing that man.

I just read a study about Anadrol. Guys were given 50mg/ or 100mg/ day and they measured all the usual Health markers specifically testing its ability to increase red blood cell count. This study was 12 weeks I believe. They reported that liver enzymes increased for both groups but literally the day after they stopped the drol their enzymes were in range again!!

Maybe I can find it if someone’s interested

No need, I believe you
But I think it also depends on liver health, how long it had been since your last cycle, and a lot of other factors.
I have a bad habbit of projecting my own experience on other people's situations. And in my experience, taking anavar for 8 weeks would make me feel like shit. But I have abused the fuck out of my liver in the past, soooo.......

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[Slacker78]

No need, I believe you
But I think it also depends on liver health, how long it had been since your last cycle, and a lot of other factors.
I have a bad habbit of projecting my own experience on other people's situations. And in my experience, taking anavar for 8 weeks would make me feel like shit. But I have abused the fuck out of my liver in the past, soooo.......

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I have took Dbol for 6 months 10-20mg/EOD as pre-pump before my training sessions; sometimes i take it to give me a little boost but in a discontinuos way; the same i did with Var. Of course it depends of dosages and time. My liver enzymes are slightly higher than normal, but just AST; but i think it's related to several factors, because it's not only liver-specific, like ALT for example.

[Family_guy]

No need, I believe you
But I think it also depends on liver health, how long it had been since your last cycle, and a lot of other factors.
I have a bad habbit of projecting my own experience on other people's situations. And in my experience, taking anavar for 8 weeks would make me feel like shit. But I have abused the fuck out of my liver in the past, soooo.......

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I feel ya. I think we all do that to some degree.
I agree with you on there being many other factors also

[GearHeaded]

I just read a study about Anadrol. Guys were given 50mg/ or 100mg/ day and they measured all the usual Health markers specifically testing its ability to increase red blood cell count. This study was 12 weeks I believe. They reported that liver enzymes increased for both groups but literally the day after they stopped the drol their enzymes were in range again!!

Maybe I can find it if someone’s interested

liver toxicity due to oral AAS usage is highly genetic... I think for a lot of people its actually quite over blown (supplement companies want you thinking your liver is in danger from AAS so they can keep selling you liver support sups).

fact is , most negative steroid effects you read about in the profiles are genetic factors. Dbol causes gyno ,, ummm no, not for me. but for guys that are genetically pre disposed to gyno that negative side effect is a reality. Masteron causes hair loss , ummm no, not unless your genetically pre disposed to that. bad cholesterol , nope thats genetic too.
same with liver toxicity.

some guys run VAR (which is not that liver toxic) and end up with elevated enzymes ,, while at the same time Var is prescribed at low dose in the medical community to treat alcoholic liver disease. seems like a contradiction right. in some cases it can help heal the liver (VAR has regenerative properties to it) but to guys with genetically sensitive livers it can be a problem.


so just keep that in mind when reading steroid profiles and the negative side effects. none of those side effects are a guarantee unless your genetically pre disposed to them (same goes with some of the positive attributes .. your not guaranteed to put on 20 pounds of muscle from 2 grams of gear, you could be a genetic non responder to AAS).