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[HoldMyBeer]

Jordan Peters went from a 127 pound skinny college rugby player, to a 300+ pound pro bodybuilder (and he's still in his 20s I believe and not quite done with school). to put on that much muscle in that short of time, he had to have years where he made substantial gains.

Dave Palumbo also went from a 140 pound distance runner to a 320 pound bodybuilder.. during that time I think he said one year he had put on about 40 pounds.

Stan Efferding, another example of a scrawny 120 pound guy in college, to a 300 pound bodybuilder and power lifter


none of these guys would of gotten to that size that quickly without having years with massive gains much more then 12 pounds in a year


but yeah I think its based on your levels of training and where your at .. if your already advanced, like say Mike Ohearn, your gonna be lucky to even get 2 pounds in a year , but if your a total beginner , 20 pounds is very doable

Good point. How about those who are not the 1%?
What's the average your clients gain in lean muscle on their first cycle? I ask because I'm thinking maybe people usually do a poor job (including me) on their first cycles so I've never seen real results?