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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    So by that logic, I should be able to drive a car even if I’ve had 10 DUIs because it’s your responsibility to not get hit by my car when I’m driving.
    Actually, i dont believe in locking up folks for what they might do. The BAC limit used to be 0.15 until sometime in the 70's. It got progressively lower since then. the human body has not changed. cars have gotten safer since then. not more dangerous. what has changed to necessitate bringing the number down? Nothing that I can see. except lobbying. Mothers against drunk driving gives donations to lawmakers, and awards to cops and police departments and it has corrupted the system. The organization itself has been corrupted so much so that the original "mother" who started it has left in disgust, saying that rather than being against drunk driving, they actually have become a pro-abstinence organization, desiring to stamp out drinking all together.

    They actually argue against logic that since .08 so negligibly affects folks driving ability, that we should have more checkpoint to catch folks. They completely miss the fact that if .08 doesnt have a tangible effect on driving, then we are needlessly criminalizing a generation of folks.

    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post
    How does restricting who can buy guns affect law abiding citizens? They will get their guns whether they have to wait 20 minutes or 2 Days.

    If someone is a paranoid schizophrenic that hallucinates and talks to the devil, I would hope their medical history and the fact that they’ve been previously institutionalized should prevent them from buying assault rifles. Maybe I’m just crazy.
    Because many law abiding citizens can get caught up in that bureaucratic swamp and get denied. You got stressed with your mother twenty years ago as a teenager, maybe your father or someone else just died. You get checked into a hospital psych ward to get your thoughts together. Thats all it takes. no guns for the rest of your life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by C27H40O3 View Post
    Actually, i dont believe in locking up folks for what they might do. The BAC limit used to be 0.15 until sometime in the 70's. It got progressively lower since then. the human body has not changed. cars have gotten safer since then. not more dangerous. what has changed to necessitate bringing the number down? Nothing that I can see. except lobbying. Mothers against drunk driving gives donations to lawmakers, and awards to cops and police departments and it has corrupted the system. The organization itself has been corrupted so much so that the original "mother" who started it has left in disgust, saying that rather than being against drunk driving, they actually have become a pro-abstinence organization, desiring to stamp out drinking all together.

    They actually argue against logic that since .08 so negligibly affects folks driving ability, that we should have more checkpoint to catch folks. They completely miss the fact that if .08 doesnt have a tangible effect on driving, then we are needlessly criminalizing a generation of folks.



    Because many law abiding citizens can get caught up in that bureaucratic swamp and get denied. You got stressed with your mother twenty years ago as a teenager, maybe your father or someone else just died. You get checked into a hospital psych ward to get your thoughts together. Thats all it takes. no guns for the rest of your life.

    I’m not talking about locking up people, I’m just talking about restricting their privileges to drive on public roads funded by the collective community.

    One possible reason why the alcohol limit changed is that in 1970 there were 200 million cars in the world, and in 2018 there were 274 million cars in just the US. More cars and more people leads to higher risk of accidents.

    I believe each individual situation should be analyzed and decided. I don’t agree that if someone had one incident at some point, that it should ban them from owning weapons forever.

    We live in a society, and we cannot just let everyone do what they want. If we allow everything, then the system we built collapses and anarchy ensues.

    I’m not sure what some people want... but it seems some would take anarchy over a regulated democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post

    One possible reason why the alcohol limit changed is that in 1970 there were 200 million cars in the world, and in 2018 there were 274 million cars in just the US. More cars and more people leads to higher risk of accidents.
    You cant just make that assumption. What about the thousands of miles of new and improved roads brought up to modern safety standards, and better handling cars with anti-lock brakes, power steering, power brakes as standard on all models and all the other improvements in the last 50 years.

    Quote Originally Posted by Test Monsterone View Post

    I believe each individual situation should be analyzed and decided. I don’t agree that if someone had one incident at some point, that it should ban them from owning weapons forever.
    I concur.


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