clen and t3/t4 without/absolute minimum sides?

[Mr. Small]

Bit optimistic to think t3 will speed up the fat burning by 30 %.

Anyway, to get clen burning fat, you need to ramp the dose way up to at least 80mcg per day.

[charger69]

Bit optimistic to think t3 will speed up the fat burning by 30 %.

Anyway, to get clen burning fat, you need to ramp the dose way up to at least 80mcg per day.

I was using 20 mcg and noticed a difference. It was gradual, which is what I wanted, but it worked. When I am cutting I usually go 40, but I am on a deficit and allot of cardio. Obviously, I am on a cutting cycle so I have other elements ( ie winnie, tren, mast. Etc).


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[bobspix]

I was using 20 mcg and noticed a difference. It was gradual, which is what I wanted, but it worked. When I am cutting I usually go 40, but I am on a deficit and allot of cardio. Obviously, I am on a cutting cycle so I have other elements ( ie winnie, tren, mast. Etc).


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Man all I am worrying about is muscle loss and I want to minimise it without anabolics.
Let's say, if I take winstrol, the injectable one 50 mgs EOD for 3 weeks, would it shut me down or suppress it? Would I need PCT afterwards?

[charger69]

Man all I am worrying about is muscle loss and I want to minimise it without anabolics.
Let's say, if I take winstrol, the injectable one 50 mgs EOD for 3 weeks, would it shut me down or suppress it? Would I need PCT afterwards?

T3 and clen are not AAS and do t shut you down, but taking any AAS for muscle preservation will suppress natural T production. . My preference for any cycle is to have test as a base ( there are exceptions)..I usually use test and primo for saving muscle. Test itself would be OK. Everyone has their favorites. Weight loss does not discriminate between fat and muscle loss which is the reason to use AAS and tip the scales toward fat loss.
PCT??? That is a personal preference. I would say yes in this case. The intent of PCT is to jumó start the natural production again. Are you going to die without PCT, no. They never used it back in the day.
I am on TRT so I do not use PCT.


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[bobspix]

T3 and clen are not AAS and do t shut you down, but taking any AAS for muscle preservation will suppress natural T production. . My preference for any cycle is to have test as a base ( there are exceptions)..I usually use test and primo for saving muscle. Test itself would be OK. Everyone has their favorites. Weight loss does not discriminate between fat and muscle loss which is the reason to use AAS and tip the scales toward fat loss.
PCT??? That is a personal preference. I would say yes in this case. The intent of PCT is to jumó start the natural production again. Are you going to die without PCT, no. They never used it back in the day.
I am on TRT so I do not use PCT.


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Yeah I know T3 and clen are mere drugs and not AAS and aren't suppressive. And I know weight loss comes with both Fat and Muscle which is why I was suggesting a "mild" anabolic (Which may suppress but not completely shut me down) without a full cycle. I have used winny for 3 weeks last year and boy were the gains amazin! Which is why I am thinking of going clen or T3 with Stana once again. My only question, since it doesn't shut me down, will I be find after using it and then just using clomid for 4 weeks or not do any pct at all and wait for it to bounce back?