Most still say Biden ‘cheating’ beat Trump

[Beetlegeuse]

Stuck: Most still say Biden ‘cheating’ beat Trump

Voters are not letting go of their belief that the 2020 presidential election was a fraud-filled nightmare.

The latest evidence from Rasmussen Reports:

* By a margin of 51%-44%, voters said it is “likely” that cheating affected the outcome. That included 74% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats.
* Some 47% said it is likely Democrats stole or destroyed ballots for former President Donald Trump. That included 75% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats. An even 50% said that it is unlikely ballots were destroyed...

... The survey also looked at election laws and found that voters want cheating eliminated from the system far more than making it easier to vote. And they demand voter identification.

Rasmussen said: “Asked which is more important, making it easier for everybody to vote, or making sure there is no cheating in elections, 60% of Likely Voters say it’s more important to prevent cheating, while 37% said it’s more important to make it easier to vote.

“Only 22% of voters say it is currently too hard to vote, while 34% said it’s too easy to vote, and 41% say the level of difficulty in voting is about right.”

[DustMan]

Cope

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat.

https://www.livescience.com/24310-fl...th-belief.html

People believe all sorts of shit.

[Wannabhuge14]

Members of the Flat Earth Society claim to believe the Earth is flat.

https://www.livescience.com/24310-fl...th-belief.html

People believe all sorts of shit.

Yes they do. But you gotta admit when biden has ten people in lawn chairs at his rallies while trump sells out arenas and has people crowding the outside of those sold out rallies, something doesn't add up. It's fine that you dislike him but as joe burden says, "c,mon man".

[Test Monsterone]

Yes they do. But you gotta admit when biden has ten people in lawn chairs at his rallies while trump sells out arenas and has people crowding the outside of those sold out rallies, something doesn't add up. It's fine that you dislike him but as joe burden says, "c,mon man".

Yes, cultists tend to gather in large venues. Same as sports fans, etc. Trump created a cult following. He held rallies for his followers where he told them what they want to hear. People like me are not impressed by large venues of uneducated credulous followers... or as they call them, "sheep." We are intelligent and free thinking, most of us highly educated, and we act in silence, without big flags to wave and hug, or a big loud truck to make everyone know how important we are. It's a difference in personality, that's why you don't see Biden supporters everywhere.

[Wannabhuge14]

Yes, cultists tend to gather in large venues. Same as sports fans, etc. Trump created a cult following. He held rallies for his followers where he told them what they want to hear. People like me are not impressed by large venues of uneducated credulous followers... or as they call them, "sheep." We are intelligent and free thinking, most of us highly educated, and we act in silence, without big flags to wave and hug, or a big loud truck to make everyone know how important we are. It's a difference in personality, that's why you don't see Biden supporters everywhere.

At least he did a lot of what he said he was going to do. Burden said he's going to take care of the american people, meanwhile the border is being compromised because he undid every good thing trump had going at the border. Me paying for the benefits of illegals while our people don't even have those benefits is not what I call being put first. I think you can admit that he's not such a good president.

How does following trump.make you uneducated? I dare say there are quite a large amount of uneducated biden supporters. You've got to be pretty stupid to support him to begin with. He hates the country and is selling slabs of it to china by the day. At the very minimum trump loves our country and like him or not that's something we should all be able to stand behind. If you guys are so highly educated if think you'd be able to see how big of a problem this administration is. I get it, we are conservative Christians and that automatically makes us stupid. That's alright man because I'll pray for you regardless.

[Hughinn]

Yes, cultists tend to gather in large venues. Same as sports fans, etc. Trump created a cult following. He held rallies for his followers where he told them what they want to hear. People like me are not impressed by large venues of uneducated credulous followers... or as they call them, "sheep." We are intelligent and free thinking, most of us highly educated, and we act in silence, without big flags to wave and hug, or a big loud truck to make everyone know how important we are. It's a difference in personality, that's why you don't see Biden supporters everywhere.

Haha.

Hey test,

I appreciate you taking the time to tell us how smart y'all are, otherwise we wouldn't have ever known.

[anomily88]

Yes, cultists tend to gather in large venues. Same as sports fans, etc. Trump created a cult following. He held rallies for his followers where he told them what they want to hear. People like me are not impressed by large venues of uneducated credulous followers... or as they call them, "sheep." We are intelligent and free thinking, most of us highly educated, and we act in silence, without big flags to wave and hug, or a big loud truck to make everyone know how important we are. It's a difference in personality, that's why you don't see Biden supporters everywhere.

U sound retarded

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[The Deadlifting Dog]

U sound retarded

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Curious about your username.

Care to elaborate on its meaning?

[almostgone]

U sound retarded

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You sound like your manners need improvement. Work on it.

FWIW, an old account with 8 posts gets extra scrutiny.

[wango]

Yes they do. But you gotta admit when biden has ten people in lawn chairs at his rallies while trump sells out arenas and has people crowding the outside of those sold out rallies, something doesn't add up. It's fine that you dislike him but as joe burden says, "c,mon man".

It was considered “irresponsible” by many to have large public gatherings (particularly indoors) due to potentially spreading the virus. Thus the Biden supporters may not have had the large gatherings as you stated. It had less to do with lack of Biden support and more to do with a show of courtesy to the community around them.

[Wannabhuge14]

It was considered “irresponsible” by many to have large public gatherings (particularly indoors) due to potentially spreading the virus. Thus the Biden supporters may not have had the large gatherings as you stated. It had less to do with lack of Biden support and more to do with a show of courtesy to the community around them.

Because most of trump's supporters believe the virus is bogus, me included. You would think that to be obvious to the "free thinkers". Regardless it's all an effort to control us. I'd rather lick a toilet seat covered in covid as than take a vaccine that wastes an injection site for a week. Just my opinion and I know lots on here don't see it that way. That's the beauty of free speech, which is under attack by censorship by big tech and the radical left.

[wango]

Because most of trump's supporters believe the virus is bogus, me included. You would think that to be obvious to the "free thinkers". Regardless it's all an effort to control us. I'd rather lick a toilet seat covered in covid as than take a vaccine that wastes an injection site for a week. Just my opinion and I know lots on here don't see it that way. That's the beauty of free speech, which is under attack by censorship by big tech and the radical left.

I was only speaking for the lack of presence for Biden.

It’s cool if that it’s your opinion, not a problem with me - just wanted to add my angle on what you said. However, not into licking toilet seats, lol.

[anomily88]

It was considered “irresponsible” by many to have large public gatherings (particularly indoors) due to potentially spreading the virus. Thus the Biden supporters may not have had the large gatherings as you stated. It had less to do with lack of Biden support and more to do with a show of courtesy to the community around them.

But biden supporters will line up to burn down cities .....cmon man

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[Cuz]

It was considered “irresponsible” by many to have large public gatherings (particularly indoors) due to potentially spreading the virus. Thus the Biden supporters may not have had the large gatherings as you stated. It had less to do with lack of Biden support and more to do with a show of courtesy to the community around them.

We couldn’t have Trump rallies(where many wore masks) but the dems let protests and rioters run rampant in the dem controlled cities and never batted an eye. Would you even believe i read an article stating that protests and riots wouldn’t spread covid , the numbers of cases never rose up lol...except when conservatives gathered like say bike week..

If you cant see dems and the liberal news media is extremely one sided then you quite frankly have a thinking problem . And this isn’t directed toward you Wango i know you are an educated man. Maybe not as smart as “test monster” but i mean who is?? He is probably the most educated member here, taught me everything i know about bodybuilding...

[wango]

We couldn’t have Trump rallies(where many wore masks) but the dems let protests and rioters run rampant in the dem controlled cities and never batted an eye. Would you even believe i read an article stating that protests and riots wouldn’t spread covid , the numbers of cases never rose up lol...except when conservatives gathered like say bike week..

If you cant see dems and the liberal news media is extremely one sided then you quite frankly have a thinking problem . And this isn’t directed toward you Wango i know you are an educated man. Maybe not as smart as “test monster” but i mean who is?? He is probably the most educated member here, taught me everything i know about bodybuilding...

I’m reading about antifa & CHAZ now (written by a republican) and hear what you are saying regarding that and don’t argue that point t all.

The sources that I seek my information and news from are balanced because I use different sources. If I was incorrect about the Biden supporters not having large rally’s then I will stand corrected.

Test is extremely intelligent as are tons of other members here, including yourself. Honestly, I only feel completely comfortable and “smart” on a couple of topics. The rest I’m just debating and learning along the way.

[Hughinn]

Stuck: Most still say Biden ‘cheating’ beat Trump

Voters are not letting go of their belief that the 2020 presidential election was a fraud-filled nightmare.

The latest evidence from Rasmussen Reports:

* By a margin of 51%-44%, voters said it is “likely” that cheating affected the outcome. That included 74% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats.
* Some 47% said it is likely Democrats stole or destroyed ballots for former President Donald Trump. That included 75% of Republicans and 30% of Democrats. An even 50% said that it is unlikely ballots were destroyed...

... The survey also looked at election laws and found that voters want cheating eliminated from the system far more than making it easier to vote. And they demand voter identification.

Rasmussen said: “Asked which is more important, making it easier for everybody to vote, or making sure there is no cheating in elections, 60% of Likely Voters say it’s more important to prevent cheating, while 37% said it’s more important to make it easier to vote.

“Only 22% of voters say it is currently too hard to vote, while 34% said it’s too easy to vote, and 41% say the level of difficulty in voting is about right.”

Lol.

Even 30% of democrat voters admit they cheated.

Now that says it all.

[Mooseman33]

its fucking over.

make america train again.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I will add my opinion...

I do think there are events that should be discussed.
I do not necessarily want an entire sub-forum wiped out.
I believe traffic is good for the site.

However...
I think that many of the threads started are meant to instigate arguments... they are not meant to actually start civil debates.
It is often the way things are presented that cause problems.

side note:
I am in no way claiming innocence in any of this. For a while I tried fighting fire with fire and that only caused more problems.

[wango]

Hughinn, I just want to say - that I truly understand the recent points being made that the needless bickering is a pain in the ass to some & could certainly be bad for the forum; but you and I have managed to keep it respectful. More than that, you and I have conceded on certain points and have come to similar conclusions after our exchange. I am proud of that and why I like this sub-forum.

With that said, regarding 88, I actually have it on my license plate (on a German car none the less, lol). But should I tattoo it upon my neck and defend it by saying it’s my wedding anniversary (August 8th actually is)? I know it would offend many & for an obvious reason. I wanted love and hate tattooed on my fingers for more philosophical reasons, but again chose against it and chose something else less than a week from the appointment. I fully agree with the idea of free speech, but feel that other’s that are exposed to it have rights as well & the right to be offended should be respected.

I hope that they keep this sub forum open, but fully agree that it should be shut down. I would like to see the controversial/political stuff stay here though, instead of in the anabolic lounge; that way far more people can easily ignore it.

Peace brother.

[Hughinn]

Hughinn, I just want to say - that I truly understand the recent points being made that the needless bickering is a pain in the ass to some & could certainly be bad for the forum; but you and I have managed to keep it respectful. More than that, you and I have conceded on certain points and have come to similar conclusions after our exchange. I am proud of that and why I like this sub-forum.

With that said, regarding 88, I actually have it on my license plate (on a German car none the less, lol). But should I tattoo it upon my neck and defend it by saying it’s my wedding anniversary (August 8th actually is)? I know it would offend many & for an obvious reason. I wanted love and hate tattooed on my fingers for more philosophical reasons, but again chose against it and chose something else less than a week from the appointment. I fully agree with the idea of free speech, but feel that other’s that are exposed to it have rights as well & the right to be offended should be respected.

I hope that they keep this sub forum open, but fully agree that it should be shut down. I would like to see the controversial/political stuff stay here though, instead of in the anabolic lounge; that way far more people can easily ignore it.

Peace brother.

I understand wango.

And I respect your opinions, and the opinions of the other men here as well.

But I ask you ro consider : we pay much lip service here to ideas like democracy, free speech and open discourse. Rightfully so, because those are the foundation tenets of what we believe as alpha American men.

Well sir, this is it. Open discourse and democracy isn't always pretty. Amd it's not intended to be. But it's necessary, and it's actually very healthy. We debate the news of today here with other alpha men who we've got alot in common with, and yet may disagree. I can't think of a better model for open discourse and democracy that what I've seen here.

I agree that we all do need to do a better job of maintaining better civility at times, and that includes myself, perhaps moreso than many others. I will take that advice, amd try to apply it better henceforth.

But I digress, that stopping it altogether would be a direct contradiction to the very ideals we say we all espouse.

[Mooseman33]

here we go again....

so, anybody want to do a summer contest?

[Wannabhuge14]

here we go again....

so, anybody want to do a summer contest?

If I looked as good as half of you I would

[Mooseman33]

brotha, thats not what its about. its about us coming together to help eachother reach a common goal. there are no losers in these comps.
shit man, i need to drop 15lbs.

we going to get one going, and I want u in it brotha

[wango]

brotha, thats not what its about. its about us coming together to help eachother reach a common goal. there are no losers in these comps.
shit man, i need to drop 15lbs.

we going to get one going, and I want u in it brotha

15, just 15?!? You lucky son of a gun! I’m goin to do it for fun & unofficially because there’s no way in hell I’m taking before pics!

[Wannabhuge14]

Alright I'll do it. Let's decide on a start date. Guess I'll need to cut out the ice cream kick I've been on lol

[anomily88]

Alright I'll do it. Let's decide on a start date. Guess I'll need to cut out the ice cream kick I've been on lol

Just start tomorrow

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[Wannabhuge14]

15, just 15?!? You lucky son of a gun! I’m goin to do it for fun & unofficially because there’s no way in hell I’m taking before pics!

Lol why no before pics?

[wango]

Lol why no before pics?

Thank you for starting my Monday morning with a good laugh. My avi is the last picture I took shortly before Covid. I’ve steered clear of all cameras since then, but regrettably have to look in the mirror from time to time.

[wango]

I will definitely check them both out. The Jack London book first. I loved Upton Sinclair’s “The Jungle”. It was written in 1906 and it was about working conditions in Chicago. Looking forward to read what likely was the motivation for”The Jungle”.

When I was switching from medicine back to teaching I was taking a lot of philosophy classes and was toying with getting a degree, but just realized it wasn’t reasonable. The philosopher that got me started is considered one of the fathers of the French Revolution and an influence upon our founding fathers. His name is Rousseau.

I can’t read much philosophy now. It takes so much energy and focus. I’m trying to get into this book on the history of the Middle East and it’s like an f’n text-book. It’s interesting, but I need something that reads easier.

Regarding college, I simply lucked out. No one in our family ever had an opportunity before & I had no choice. College never taught me how to think, I never cared to back then. I just wanted to learn my subject matter.

I’m not going to argue current teaching practices out here, but I know the teachers in many subjects in our school, my favorites being government and history. And I know for a fact that an agenda is not forced upon those kids and they are encouraged to question, think and disagree. But that’s just where I’m at, I’m not saying it’s universal.

[flyinlow]

If you sincerely argue Biden won this election I can prove that you are in denial. How many counties did Obama win in 2012? 873 counties is how many counties Obama won in 2012

How many counties did Trump win in 2016? 3141 counties. Killary only won 57.

But you still want to argue about Biden won 2021? With 477 counties Biden won 81 M votes? I refuse to take you serious. Liberalism is a disease.

And what’s with Biden’s inaurguration? Military anomalies that are VERY strange. Why is Biden behind a green screen?

Very odd

[Hughinn]

If you sincerely argue Biden won this election I can prove that you are in denial. How many counties did Obama win in 2012? 873 counties is how many counties Obama won in 2012

How many counties did Trump win in 2016? 3141 counties. Killary only won 57.

But you still want to argue about Biden won 2021? With 477 counties Biden won 81 M votes? I refuse to take you serious. Liberalism is a disease.

And what’s with Biden’s inaurguration? Military anomalies that are VERY strange. Why is Biden behind a green screen?

Very odd

At this point, there's even alot of democrats that know they cheated.

They just don't care, because they got what they wanted.

Basically, the elite, ruling class of billionaires and political dynasties bought the outcome they wanted. They got a few of thier sheep to bleat and moan, stirred as much hatred and division as they could, vilified any and all who disagreed with them to the max, and stole the biggest election in the free world.

They sold out America, for a chance to rule the whole fucking world.

I am not registered to any political party. The Republicans let America down time and time again, they refuse to grow or show balls and stand up to the powers destroying this nation from the inside out. It's sad that they're all we have standing in the way.

I am not a registered Republican. But, I am 1000% An Anti-Democrat. The corruption, the sleazy, conniving, manipulating of that party has torn at the fabric of this country for centuries. Now, they want to sell out America, to bring communism to the whole world. With them in charge like kings and queens. These people are fucked up. They have to be stopped

[flyinlow]

At this point, there's even alot of democrats that know they cheated.

They just don't care, because they got what they wanted.

Basically, the elite, ruling class of billionaires and political dynasties bought the outcome they wanted. They got a few of thier sheep to bleat and moan, stirred as much hatred and division as they could, vilified any and all who disagreed with them to the max, and stole the biggest election in the free world.

They sold out America, for a chance to rule the whole fucking world.

I am not registered to any political party. The Republicans let America down time and time again, they refuse to grow or show balls and stand up to the powers destroying this nation from the inside out. It's sad that they're all we have standing in the way.

I am not a registered Republican. But, I am 1000% An Anti-Democrat. The corruption, the sleazy, conniving, manipulating of that party has torn at the fabric of this country for centuries. Now, they want to sell out America, to bring communism to the whole world. With them in charge like kings and queens. These people are fucked up. They have to be stopped

Go to duckduck go and search Biden AF1. Biden isn’t on the same AF1 that Trump had. Maybe you can find Biden on that same plane Trump has flown in past 4 years. I search for small details. I hate listening to MSM

I’m sure you seen the green screen Biden was on? Search Biden green screen microphone. Amazing that YouTube hasn’t pulled down that video.

What kills me is the peace Trump brought to Middle East and Isreal. Now look @ Isreal? It’s chaos right now and Iran apparently wants war. Weird how this all happens so quickly after a new administration.

Biden is a criminal. He wrote the patriot Act in the 90’s. Just needing a crisis to get it pushed through. Yet people refuse to believe it’s true. It’s outside their comfort zones. Or they just have a hate towards the Western European Christian.

[Hughinn]

Go to duckduck go and search Biden AF1. Biden isn’t on the same AF1 that Trump had. Maybe you can find Biden on that same plane Trump has flown in past 4 years. I search for small details. I hate listening to MSM

I’m sure you seen the green screen Biden was on? Search Biden green screen microphone. Amazing that YouTube hasn’t pulled down that video.

What kills me is the peace Trump brought to Middle East and Isreal. Now look @ Isreal? It’s chaos right now and Iran apparently wants war. Weird how this all happens so quickly after a new administration.

Biden is a criminal. He wrote the patriot Act in the 90’s. Just needing a crisis to get it pushed through. Yet people refuse to believe it’s true. It’s outside their comfort zones. Or they just have a hate towards the Western European Christian.

Joe Biden and his family has made a lucrative business by selling access to American policy through his office for a half century.

It doesn't take a genius to see why he escapes scrutiny. Why it's okay for his son to hold vested interest in Chinese hedgefunds and have Chinese spy operatives as his "assistants". Or why he can video himself snorting coke off the buttocks of teenage prostitutes amd it's all good to the liberals.

Joe biden now has the national guard cleaning up trash at the Mexican border while the cartels drive by taunting and laughing at them.

But we're supposed to believe 81 million people voted for that.

81 million people would rather focus on building up Chinese manufacturing than American workforces
81 million people voted to give control of the border to the Mexican drug cartels instead of or own border agencies.
81 million people would rather buy expensive Saudi Arabian oil instead of American
81 million people voted to buy foreign energy than produce our own
81 million people think American farmers deserve less subsidies than Mexican farmers.

We're supposed to believe there are 81 million people that stupid in America, and that something like 50 million mail in ballots were all on the up and up.....because the people who benefited exclusively from all the bizzare shenanigans told us so.

And were supposed not see or talk about it, more the fact that those same people are doing everything they can to prevent third party audits from happening.

It's not hard to see that it's completely ridiculous. There is no policy that joe biden could win on. So they cheated.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

I understand many people aren't very good at math so...

Trump won more counties than Biden. Fact.
But Biden won more votes.

How do you ask?

Biden won the big counties.
Why do you ask?
The big counties are the cities.

example:
One county, Los Angeles county, has over 10,000,000 people.
Meanwhile the 29 counties in Utah have just over 3,000,000 people. (Trump won 27 out of 29.)

So Trump wins 27 out of 30 counties...
But...
Biden wins the Presidency.


Please stop spreading lies and propaganda.

[flyinlow]

Please stop spreading lies and propaganda.[/QUOTE]

You are a complete hypocrite. There were more votes than registered voters. You do realize that, right? Can you count? 76 M plus 81 M equals? What does that equal? And the denominator is how many registered voters in US? It’s 133 M. Can you do that math problem?

Yet you argue “please stop spreading lies” knowing full well this was not a fair election yet you can’t be honest with yourself let alone be honest in a discussion forum.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Guess you don't want to address the math example.

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Please show a credible source showing that their was 133 million registered voters.

You can't.

[flyinlow]

Please show a credible source showing that their was 133 million registered voters.

You can't.

Why do you say I can’t? I want to know why do you intentionally say that not researching yourself? You don’t think this information isn’t public?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-s/4010087001/

[The Deadlifting Dog]

Why do you say I can’t? I want to know why do you intentionally say that not researching yourself? You don’t think this information isn’t public?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...-s/4010087001/

Your own link proved you wrong.

In its thread of tweets, the account MSM Fact Checking provided conflicting calculations without citing sources. The initial post claimed there were 133 million registered voters. In another tweet, it claimed there were 213 million registered voters with a voter turnout rate of 62.5%. All of these numbers are false.

We know, after weeks of counting, that there were roughly 159 million ballots cast in the presidential election. According to the Election Project, this accounts for 66.7% of the eligible voting population of 239 million Americans..

The U.S. Census Bureau publishes voter registration totals for the nation; its 2020 numbers are not yet available.

It specifically said that 133 million registered voters is wrong.

It specifically said the 2020 numbers are not yet available.


Please stop spreading lies.

(Although if you do please keep proving yourself wrong.)