Hughinn, I just want to say - that I truly understand the recent points being made that the needless bickering is a pain in the ass to some & could certainly be bad for the forum; but you and I have managed to keep it respectful. More than that, you and I have conceded on certain points and have come to similar conclusions after our exchange. I am proud of that and why I like this sub-forum.

With that said, regarding 88, I actually have it on my license plate (on a German car none the less, lol). But should I tattoo it upon my neck and defend it by saying it’s my wedding anniversary (August 8th actually is)? I know it would offend many & for an obvious reason. I wanted love and hate tattooed on my fingers for more philosophical reasons, but again chose against it and chose something else less than a week from the appointment. I fully agree with the idea of free speech, but feel that other’s that are exposed to it have rights as well & the right to be offended should be respected.

I hope that they keep this sub forum open, but fully agree that it should be shut down. I would like to see the controversial/political stuff stay here though, instead of in the anabolic lounge; that way far more people can easily ignore it.

Peace brother.