To all you yong bucks you gotta be a tuff MF'er to get old

[lovbyts]

Im not sure what to think about all the no testosterone talk. It seem to me (im not an expert obviously) that there is a lot of Old school thinking behind this and there hasnt been any real studies or evidence in the last 50 years if its hurtful or beneficial.

I can understand how they would not want you doing a cycle but it seem normal levels would be good since it helps your body feel normal and work properly. Seems to me having low or no testosterone would just confuse the healing process.

Just my uneducated opinion of course.

[< <Samson> >]

Im not sure what to think about all the no testosterone talk. It seem to me (im not an expert obviously) that there is a lot of Old school thinking behind this and there hasnt been any real studies or evidence in the last 50 years if its hurtful or beneficial.

I can understand how they would not want you doing a cycle but it seem normal levels would be good since it helps your body feel normal and work properly. Seems to me having low or no testosterone would just confuse the healing process.

Just my uneducated opinion of course.

Seems to b a standard, they want to bottom out your levels period - estrogen & test

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Seems to b a standard, they want to bottom out your levels period - estrogen & test

But as almost an anthem on this forum is we or me and myself alone are responsible for our own health and well being . We have choice to make . They may not be the correct choices for everyone but my choices are right for my lifestyle on my terms !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Im not sure what to think about all the no testosterone talk. It seem to me (im not an expert obviously) that there is a lot of Old school thinking behind this and there hasnt been any real studies or evidence in the last 50 years if its hurtful or beneficial.

I can understand how they would not want you doing a cycle but it seem normal levels would be good since it helps your body feel normal and work properly. Seems to me having low or no testosterone would just confuse the healing process.

Just my uneducated opinion of course.

Speaking of old medical opinions . Supposedly normal amounts of Testosterone feed the cancer . I the early days when prostate cancer was found they cut off the mans ball sack and all . These men did not die of prostate cancer so here is where that thinking started and the Dr's have only one goal cure prostate cancer with no regards to quality of life . I have read my ass off and research all approaches and other medical papers ; one by Jon Hopkins dates 2015 - that stated TRT or HRT actually helped prevent prostrate cancer since it stopped the testicles from producing Test.

Urologist - push removal ( my urologist even told me that almost all Dr's that get prostate cancer prefer removal ) So I agreed and started my research and when researching the side effect of removal the sides were down played big time .

Oncologist - choose almost any method besides the knife ? Why ? when some patients come in they are freaked out and just want to be cancer free at all cost .
1) these men may agree to negative hormone therapy - which blocks all testosterone from even showing traces in the body and they are at this point unknowingly stopping the cancer in it's tracks and almost turning feminine ( I said HELL NO )
2) the next thing they suggest is Finasteride 5mg per day in my case . - long term shrinks the prostate but also screwed with my sex life like not tomorrow and I was only on for about 2 weeks at 5mg per day and now 2 weeks later I am just getting back to normal . 7 x's a week and 7+ blow jobs . So No need to praise I know I am a 63 year old studd and I still have to jerk off 3 or 4 times a week (true) LMAO but true ( So I am a huge no for this also .
3) Now I am on that funky diet above which is a new nutritional way to eat and I will go back to normal high protein diet at the end of March.
4) Next steps for me are gel injected to protect my rectum from radiation and then 5 Radiation (Cyberknife Treatment)

If anyone is looking into choices do not get plain radiation only demand radiation with Cyberknife .

Like some above I was of the mind set that the way I felt when I started TRT and how it changed my life to a positive ; how could it be bad for me . Seems many smarter than me are anti testosterone - I never have stopped only when I had my last biopsy with high number did I back off from 200mg weekly to 30mg 2 x's a week . So we do think alike but I am quite sure if your o nly goal is kill cancer then the Negative Hormone Therapy would be the way to go for non alpha male or the feminine non-heterotisexual it may be the answer .

So that was around the world as to why the zero testosterone approach may be the only 100% way to be 100% sure no more cancer . So maybe there is a cure for cancer ? What price will you pay to just barely be above ground for 2 or 3 years of no quality life . Go for the one good year and end it on your terms not is a nursing home .

[lovbyts]

Speaking of old medical opinions . Supposedly normal amounts of Testosterone feed the cancer . I the early days when prostate cancer was found they cut off the mans ball sack and all . These men did not die of prostate cancer so here is where that thinking started and the Dr's have only one goal cure prostate cancer with no regards to quality of life . I have read my ass off and research all approaches and other medical papers ; one by Jon Hopkins dates 2015 - that stated TRT or HRT actually helped prevent prostrate cancer since it stopped the testicles from producing Test.

Urologist - push removal ( my urologist even told me that almost all Dr's that get prostate cancer prefer removal ) So I agreed and started my research and when researching the side effect of removal the sides were down played big time .

Oncologist - choose almost any method besides the knife ? Why ? when some patients come in they are freaked out and just want to be cancer free at all cost .
1) these men may agree to negative hormone therapy - which blocks all testosterone from even showing traces in the body and they are at this point unknowingly stopping the cancer in it's tracks and almost turning feminine ( I said HELL NO )
2) the next thing they suggest is Finasteride 5mg per day in my case . - long term shrinks the prostate but also screwed with my sex life like not tomorrow and I was only on for about 2 weeks at 5mg per day and now 2 weeks later I am just getting back to normal . 7 x's a week and 7+ blow jobs . So No need to praise I know I am a 63 year old studd and I still have to jerk off 3 or 4 times a week (true) LMAO but true ( So I am a huge no for this also .
3) Now I am on that funky diet above which is a new nutritional way to eat and I will go back to normal high protein diet at the end of March.
4) Next steps for me are gel injected to protect my rectum from radiation and then 5 Radiation (Cyberknife Treatment)

If anyone is looking into choices do not get plain radiation only demand radiation with Cyberknife .

Like some above I was of the mind set that the way I felt when I started TRT and how it changed my life to a positive ; how could it be bad for me . Seems many smarter than me are anti testosterone - I never have stopped only when I had my last biopsy with high number did I back off from 200mg weekly to 30mg 2 x's a week . So we do think alike but I am quite sure if your o nly goal is kill cancer then the Negative Hormone Therapy would be the way to go for non alpha male or the feminine non-heterotisexual it may be the answer .

So that was around the world as to why the zero testosterone approach may be the only 100% way to be 100% sure no more cancer . So maybe there is a cure for cancer ? What price will you pay to just barely be above ground for 2 or 3 years of no quality life . Go for the one good year and end it on your terms not is a nursing home .

Ill take the quality over quantity. I know cancer loves sugar also and that I would be willing to give up 100% if needed but not the T. Ive always ran very mild TRT and stayed in the 700 - 900 range, mostly because I mean to do bi weekly injections and usually forget the 2nd one for several days so Im only using a little over 1/2 of what Im supposed to.

It helps with the excess stock as well for future use.