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    I'm really having a terrible time controlling my appetite. I have only occasionally not been able to handle it throughout my life. I had been eating every couple hours to keep my blood sugars level and protein reserves up. I'm thinking about switching to and intermediate fasting where I eat breakfast then a large meal later when I get home At 8-9pm. I'm putting in 10-12 hours days. Right now what is killing me is getting hungry before bed.

    Anyone got any suggestions?

    Oh and I'm in the middle of a body recomp. So not a hard cut or a bulk, just putting on muscle and losing body fat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I'm really having a terrible time controlling my appetite. I have only occasionally not been able to handle it throughout my life. I had been eating every couple hours to keep my blood sugars level and protein reserves up. I'm thinking about switching to and intermediate fasting where I eat breakfast then a large meal later when I get home At 8-9pm. I'm putting in 10-12 hours days. Right now what is killing me is getting hungry before bed.

    Anyone got any suggestions?

    Oh and I'm in the middle of a body recomp. So not a hard cut or a bulk, just putting on muscle and losing body fat.
    Food ridiculously high in fiber has helped me a lot. This is what I planning on using during the next competition where I hope to attend. 130g+/day is where I land during these times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I'm really having a terrible time controlling my appetite. I have only occasionally not been able to handle it throughout my life. I had been eating every couple hours to keep my blood sugars level and protein reserves up. I'm thinking about switching to and intermediate fasting where I eat breakfast then a large meal later when I get home At 8-9pm. I'm putting in 10-12 hours days. Right now what is killing me is getting hungry before bed.

    Anyone got any suggestions?

    Oh and I'm in the middle of a body recomp. So not a hard cut or a bulk, just putting on muscle and losing body fat.
    Have you tried drinking ice cold water to shrink the stomach and stop the surge in appetite? In the uk its a vital method alot use during comp phase. Not sure about your climate but it work's wonders over here.

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    will be following along!

    as far as the night time snack, how about cottage cheese, natty PB, and sugar free jam? or cottage cheese and sugar free jello pudding mix?
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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun View Post
    will be following along!

    as far as the night time snack, how about cottage cheese, natty PB, and sugar free jam? or cottage cheese and sugar free jello pudding mix?
    Cottage cheese I have not. The natty PB I do. but it's got a lot of calories and I can eat the whole jar. I just started with the sugar free jello and sugar free jelly on rice cakes. I had forgot all about rice cakes, they do a great job of Helping suppress hunger. I also have been chugging ice cold water. This week is my lower cal week. Last week I stayed at maintenance cals and had a few more cheat meals to reset my metabolism and food boredom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Cottage cheese I have not. The natty PB I do. but it's got a lot of calories and I can eat the whole jar. I just started with the sugar free jello and sugar free jelly on rice cakes. I had forgot all about rice cakes, they do a great job of Helping suppress hunger. I also have been chugging ice cold water. This week is my lower cal week. Last week I stayed at maintenance cals and had a few more cheat meals to reset my metabolism and food boredom.
    kel kel and Gbrice got me on the cottage cheese

    you can always blend it with some protein powder and almond milk, and make quasi ice cream with it by freezing it

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun View Post
    kel kel and Gbrice got me on the cottage cheese

    you can always blend it with some protein powder and almond milk, and make quasi ice cream with it by freezing it
    A little pineapple with the cottage cheese is fantastic as well! It comes together either fat free or with fat if that's what you need more of.. also mixed nuts cashews pistachios almonds and walnuts are great(no sodium in it either or they have both obviously)...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RaginCajun View Post
    kel kel and Gbrice got me on the cottage cheese

    you can always blend it with some protein powder and almond milk, and make quasi ice cream with it by freezing it

    I eat a bowl of cottage cheese with mandarin oranges and grapes every night before bed. Love it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I'm really having a terrible time controlling my appetite. I have only occasionally not been able to handle it throughout my life. I had been eating every couple hours to keep my blood sugars level and protein reserves up. I'm thinking about switching to and intermediate fasting where I eat breakfast then a large meal later when I get home At 8-9pm. I'm putting in 10-12 hours days. Right now what is killing me is getting hungry before bed.

    Anyone got any suggestions?

    Oh and I'm in the middle of a body recomp. So not a hard cut or a bulk, just putting on muscle and losing body fat.

    Numbere put me on to sugar free and carb free jelly (jello) when i was on keto.... was really a life saver.

    At the latest bodybuilding competition i attended i also saw a few audience members emloying this tactic.

    You can just mix up a few tubs and take them anuwhere

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    Numbere put me on to sugar free and carb free jelly (jello) when i was on keto.... was really a life saver.


    At the latest bodybuilding competition i attended i also saw a few audience members emloying this tactic.

    You can just mix up a few tubs and take them anuwhere
    Like putting that in rice cakes?


    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Food ridiculously high in fiber has helped me a lot. This is what I planning on using during the next competition where I hope to attend. 130g+/day is where I land during these times.
    Even that isn't helping much, I'm just hungry lol

    Quote Originally Posted by marcus300 View Post
    Have you tried drinking ice cold water to shrink the stomach and stop the surge in appetite? In the uk its a vital method alot use during comp phase. Not sure about your climate but it work's wonders over here.
    No, honestly I've never tried that. I will give it a go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Like putting that in rice cakes?




    Even that isn't helping much, I'm just hungry lol



    No, honestly I've never tried that. I will give it a go.
    100% works and also sends a message to the brain that your full aswell as shrinking your stomach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post

    Like putting that in rice cakes?

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    No i believe they used it just as i did to curb hunger... its 0 calorie so you really need to believe its going to fill you up tho.. can taste delish so it worked for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    Numbere put me on to sugar free and carb free jelly (jello) when i was on keto.... was really a life saver.

    At the latest bodybuilding competition i attended i also saw a few audience members emloying this tactic.

    You can just mix up a few tubs and take them anuwhere
    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Food ridiculously high in fiber has helped me a lot. This is what I planning on using during the next competition where I hope to attend. 130g+/day is where I land during these times.
    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post
    No i believe they used it just as i did to curb hunger... its 0 calorie so you really need to believe its going to fill you up tho.. can taste delish so it worked for me
    Sorry, I read that as Jelly at first but the forum wouldn't let my edit my post...

    Is there any particular brand? I've thought about trying to make protein jelly but I don't know if it will work.
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    I'll be following along as well. Maybe I'll get some pointers on how to train while trying to fight through some injuries myself. It's tough getting old, so some of you young guys take note! Train smart while you're still in great shape and health. If you do this, you could very well have good health and be in great shape in your later years.

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    Legs today,

    Travel day today so i went in and did a quick leg workout just to get it in before i got on the road. Kinda can’t wait to get home next week and get the diet and exercise back to normal. Check back in a few days.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post

    Sorry, I read that as Jelly at first but the forum wouldn't let my edit my post...

    Is there any particular brand? I've thought about trying to make protein jelly but I don't know if it will work.
    This is the one i used. Was rather nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by hollowedzeus View Post

    This is the one i used. Was rather nice
    Its called "hartley's" incase you cant see the pic... i dont know the availability of ot overseas unfortunatly

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    Quote Originally Posted by KCMOman View Post
    MS I have to say since you're running the mile just over 6 minutes then it seems you are recovering very very well! I've been training since the Stone Age and have never completed a 5k under 20 minutes! I did one close to 24 a few years back! I get bored with running but throw in an obstacle course then I love it!
    I've always been able to run short distances like that. In college by the end of Fall baseball, if we as pitchers couldn't run 2 miles under 12 min then we didn't get out jerseys for the season. My only issue with recover ATM is being able to squat and deadlift. I'm only able to do maybe 185 without much pain. I don't really care about squatijt heavy amounts again but I would like to be able to squat 315 for 15-20 reps again.

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    Had a pretty great day of training. Today was Chest/tris and Shoulders, started off with barbell bench. Been putting on strength each week, but this week I decided that I would avoid ego benching. I worked up to 225 for reps of 5, which when I'm in shape Is typically a warm up set lol. It didn't feel good even though it seemed easy to get up. I dropped down the weight to 185 and focused on slow negatives, perfect form and pause off of the chest. That actually felt really good and got me a really good pump going for the rest of my workout.

    Another thing I did that I've never done before was going up in incline. I started obviously with flat bench, then to incline press for 4 sets then to shoulder press for 4 sets. Again focusing on very slow negatives and perfect form. Again, amazing pumps from that and was good for pre-fatigueing my triceps for their own lifts.

    I had been noticing that my stabilizers fatigue very quickly with upper body lifts. So I have been doing all the boring little stabilizer exercises with the hope that I keep myself from injury. It's boring but I'm not rehabbing again.

    The past few weeks my upper body has really increased in mass. MY shoulders are very striated already my vascularity is coming along. Im just happy im filling out and dropping BF at the same time. My legs on the other hand are lagging, as expected. But much more than I expected them too. They will come along though. This week I am going to add a bit more volume in training, I think the knee will handle it just fine. I think I'm going to add in the hip sled leg press and go a little heavy, since I can't with squat just yet.
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    Haha, I'm back. No censoring me fuckers lol
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    Haha, I'm back. No censoring me fuckers lol
    Saw that earlier. Thought you did it yourself to carry on writing a post .

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    Saw that earlier. Thought you did it yourself to carry on writing a post .
    Idk what happened, I tried to reopen it several times once I noticed was closed but it wouldn't let me. So I said the hell with it and went to bed. Woke up and went in and fixed it...lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Idk what happened, I tried to reopen it several times once I noticed was closed but it wouldn't let me. So I said the hell with it and went to bed. Woke up and went in and fixed it...lol
    You might of pressed close when writing your last post.

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    I'm definitely going to have to dial in the amount of volume I do for upper body
    Lifts. My elbows and shoulders are sore after my workout from Sunday. Not bad, but enough to know that my tendons and ligaments may need a bit more rest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    I'm definitely going to have to dial in the amount of volume I do for upper body
    Lifts. My elbows and shoulders are sore after my workout from Sunday. Not bad, but enough to know that my tendons and ligaments may need a bit more rest.
    BOOM!!!!!

    that a way to get it!

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    nice log MS I will be following along as well...good luck...

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    Kind of a both mixed bag today of improvements and setbacks.

    First my legs are starting to pack on a bit more mass. Much more than I had realized. My right quad is actually as big as my left finally. My lower legs aren't coming along yet but I am hoping they will be like my quads and one day just pop.

    At Orange theory tonight we did a lot of body weight squats and lunges, and I mean a lot. The jumping and twisting type exercises I don't do, I will just do air squats or sometimes squat jacks, which are awesome if you have never done them FYI. I had to stop doing legs stuff towards the end as I started getting sharp pains in the knee. Nothing to bad just no sense in pushing it. That was a bit frustrating because I haven't experienced any pain like that in several months. Cardio and everything else went really well though. My heart rate was up pretty high and burned a lot of calories.

    Abs as starting to come in a bit, relaxed I got a few outer lines, flexed I have top two coming in. Couple more months and I should have nice visible abs relaxed and nice cuts flexed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Kind of a both mixed bag today of improvements and setbacks.

    First my legs are starting to pack on a bit more mass. Much more than I had realized. My right quad is actually as big as my left finally. My lower legs aren't coming along yet but I am hoping they will be like my quads and one day just pop.

    At Orange theory tonight we did a lot of body weight squats and lunges, and I mean a lot. The jumping and twisting type exercises I don't do, I will just do air squats or sometimes squat jacks, which are awesome if you have never done them FYI. I had to stop doing legs stuff towards the end as I started getting sharp pains in the knee. Nothing to bad just no sense in pushing it. That was a bit frustrating because I haven't experienced any pain like that in several months. Cardio and everything else went really well though. My heart rate was up pretty high and burned a lot of calories.

    Abs as starting to come in a bit, relaxed I got a few outer lines, flexed I have top two coming in. Couple more months and I should have nice visible abs relaxed and nice cuts flexed.
    Congratulations on the quads brother. I wish my abs looked like yours. I have to do better in that department.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    Congratulations on the quads brother. I wish my abs looked like yours. I have to do better in that department.
    Thanks man, I wish my abs looked like my abs did when I was healthy. But wishing hasn't been getting it done so I'm training and eating right.

    My only advice would be for anyone to make sure you are getting in some HIIT. I'm a firm believer in HIIT training and it's positive effects on bodybuilders. Got to stimulate that GH release, keep the heart happy and the arteries efficient at supplying the working muscle with blood.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleScience View Post
    Thanks man, I wish my abs looked like my abs did when I was healthy. But wishing hasn't been getting it done so I'm training and eating right.

    My only advice would be for anyone to make sure you are getting in some HIIT. I'm a firm believer in HIIT training and it's positive effects on bodybuilders. Got to stimulate that GH release, keep the heart happy and the arteries efficient at supplying the working muscle with blood.
    My job qualifies as Hiit. I get worried about the catabolic effects sometimes. Your abs have some serious meat to them. I will be there eventually.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    My job qualifies as Hiit. I get worried about the catabolic effects sometimes. Your abs have some serious meat to them. I will be there eventually.
    Yeah, they are big as fuck. Thats why I'm terrible at physique class. It's also why I stopped doing deads regularly.

    What is your TDEE on none training days?
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    Ha ha!!! Come on over. Start chiming in on my posts, the guys are awesome. Get ready to bring it!!! They don't mess around. You can do it. Start reading on Marcus method of training. It's great stuff.

    It worked for me cause I trained HIIt a lot, like Muscle Science, i TRULY believe in hiit.

    I left the gym many years sweating crazy, now I leave the gym sweating crazy and building bulk, way more than before and that's ALL Marcus, his style of training!

    The guys are killer! See Nach above! He was one of the first guys that helped me on my first cycle!
    Just keep showing up and giving it your all!

    It can be fun!!! Let's powerhouse through!

    I was just telling Cape I want another female on here that trains how I train. No, is not in my vocabulary (unless it could cause injury) lol! I can, is always my motto!

    Let's get it girl!


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    Quote Originally Posted by AKD_FitChick View Post
    Ha ha!!! Come on over. Start chiming in on my posts, the guys are awesome. Get ready to bring it!!! They don't mess around. You can do it. Start reading on Marcus method of training. It's great stuff.

    It worked for me cause I trained HIIt a lot, like Muscle Science, i TRULY believe in hiit.

    I left the gym many years sweating crazy, now I leave the gym sweating crazy and building bulk, way more than before and that's ALL Marcus, his style of training!

    The guys are killer! See Nach above! He was one of the first guys that helped me on my first cycle!
    Just keep showing up and giving it your all!

    It can be fun!!! Let's powerhouse through!

    I was just telling Cape I want another female on here that trains how I train. No, is not in my vocabulary (unless it could cause injury) lol! I can, is always my motto!

    Let's get it girl!


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    Just letting you know D - it's HIT w/one I - not HIIT(that's high intensity interval training) much different!

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    Woke up This morning and my right knee was farely sore. All the Deep squats I did, irritated my knee I think. Going to have to not go below parallel on squats Still.
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