Test Prop Nightmare

[theflyzman]

This test P is killing me! Its totally nuts. I cant train at all, period. everytime i inject from that day for at least 4-7 days of crazy soreness. Like someone hit me with a sledge hammer right in the body part i inject. I switch it up. Delts, glutes and quads doing,
100mg of test P ED
and 75 of Tren acetate ED I cant go EOD because it would take 4ml to total that.
Does the tren have anything to do with this at all, because im thinking to stop the test p and go to some other test like test C or test e and not worry about the bloat while on cutting cycle, that will go away when done. I just cant take this crazy soreness!!!
PS. The test P and tren have both been tested at lab and are right on. Perfect!

[Amorphic]

sounds like a high BA content that is causing your discomfort.

try cutting your gear with some sterile oil or b12, it should decrease the pain and swelling.

[hugovsilva]

Short esters can cause that. I would cut it with some sterile oil. If the volume is too much, your idea is good.

[theflyzman]

What is BA.

Do u think i should go with Test E or Test C. I have used 750-1000mg per week of Test E and had amazing results with nearly no pain. How is the pain from Test C?
Do u know of the pain from just tren Acetate alone. I havent tried it alone yet , but will?

I may get some tren retard. what is the retard part of it? (feel stupid asking that)??

[Amorphic]

What is BA.

Do u think i should go with Test E or Test C. I have used 750-1000mg per week of Test E and had amazing results with nearly no pain. How is the pain from Test C?
Do u know of the pain from just tren Acetate alone. I havent tried it alone yet , but will?

I may get some tren retard. what is the retard part of it? (feel stupid asking that)??

Benzyl (sp?) alcohol...its used in a small concentration to kill off any potential bacteria in the oil... too large of a concentration in the oil can cause the burning and swelling.

as hugo mentioned, short chain esters also irritate the muscle as they release the hormone so quickly.

i dont know anything about tren retard.

[The WeaPoN]

sounds like a high BA content that is causing your discomfort.

try cutting your gear with some sterile oil or b12, it should decrease the pain and swelling.

^x2
yeh man i have the same problem with my prop, but my muscles gets use to to the gear in time

[fujitsupalm]

for me it was the other way round, it was again Hugo who helped me out the other day.

My ugl testoviron was giving me massive pain, cos Hugo said somethin bout high BA, and it was hard for me to get some sterile oil in my country, therefore i take it with my deca oil, and now, no pain at all~~ woo hoo~~

[maxumboater]

it must be the high ba content cuz i shot 100mg eod and sometimes i have no pain and sometimes i have mild pain but nothing crippling.

[Njord]

My test prop is virtually painless. Just a small discomfort at the injection site for a day or two. The gear looks like it might be made with EO, very thin flowing stuff.

[lex57]

This test P is killing me! Its totally nuts. I cant train at all, period. everytime i inject from that day for at least 4-7 days of crazy soreness. Like someone hit me with a sledge hammer right in the body part i inject. I switch it up. Delts, glutes and quads doing,
100mg of test P ED
and 75 of Tren acetate ED I cant go EOD because it would take 4ml to total that.
Does the tren have anything to do with this at all, because im thinking to stop the test p and go to some other test like test C or test e and not worry about the bloat while on cutting cycle, that will go away when done. I just cant take this crazy soreness!!!
PS. The test P and tren have both been tested at lab and are right on. Perfect!

you will hear many different opinions on this here. i find that eod works for me no different than ed. i always go 100 mg eod. having said that maybe you could try to cut your test back to 50 mg ed. i think 700 mg of test p is a lot every week. but thats me. but it is something to think of. maybe try 1/2 ml sterile oil 1/2ml testp. then 1 ml of your tren. it may work out for you. to me it seems worth a try. i have heard many people say actually that the sides from tren are less severe with lower amounts of test. hope it helps.

[shifty_git]

i dont know anything about tren retard.

tren retard is an old name for tren e.

retard = slow

[Amorphic]

tren retard is an old name for tren e.

retard = slow

ah, roger that.

[mick86]

theflyzmanv ive been in ur situation too, you may find the folowing thread helpfull http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=331946
There is some discusion of the cause of pain associated with test p.

[theflyzman]

Cant tell if this stuff is giving an infection or just swelling

[Ashop]

This test P is killing me! Its totally nuts. I cant train at all, period. everytime i inject from that day for at least 4-7 days of crazy soreness. Like someone hit me with a sledge hammer right in the body part i inject. I switch it up. Delts, glutes and quads doing,
100mg of test P ED
and 75 of Tren acetate ED I cant go EOD because it would take 4ml to total that.
Does the tren have anything to do with this at all, because im thinking to stop the test p and go to some other test like test C or test e and not worry about the bloat while on cutting cycle, that will go away when done. I just cant take this crazy soreness!!!
PS. The test P and tren have both been tested at lab and are right on. Perfect!

you can switch TEST esters if you like.

[IntenseAthlete]

Ive used tons of different props.Cutting it helps.My protocol is such inject massage, shower soon after and train that body part that day.Evertime I dont train that part I feel the next day.So cut with b-12 or oil, inject,massage,shower and train body part injected that day and see if this doesnt help.

[one8nine]

sounds like a high BA content that is causing your discomfort.

try cutting your gear with some sterile oil or b12, it should decrease the pain and swelling.

i disagree
immediate pain would be from ba, that would never last more than 12 MAYBE 20 hours

for 4-7 days of soreness the solution is crashing, it is a bad recipe

cut it with ethyl oleate

[Amorphic]

i disagree
immediate pain would be from ba, that would never last more than 12 MAYBE 20 hours

for 4-7 days of soreness the solution is crashing, it is a bad recipe

cut it with ethyl oleate

could also be the solvent.

ive heard of some labs having ba and solvent problems that are resulting in baseball sized lumps and discomfort

[jaysunderstudy]

Lol, yeah test p is notorious for that. Las time I used it I had minimal soreness nothing that kept me from training. EO should help. Alota people like it and use it because its less painful and goes thru a smaller needle easier.

[lex57]

i disagree
immediate pain would be from ba, that would never last more than 12 MAYBE 20 hours

for 4-7 days of soreness the solution is crashing, it is a bad recipe

cut it with ethyl oleate

if its crashing why would you cut it ethyl oleate? you would just be mixing a crashed hormone in eo. if it was crashing you could just put in the fridge for 24 hrs and there would be crystals in it. if it was crashed you would need to heat the solution until crystals are gone then you could eo or another sterile oil and it should be ok. but here is the thing i dont think it is any of this. i just think that alot of people cant handle the hormone concentration in test p in some recipes. some people say its the ba. well pretty much all gear is made with ba, then why wouldnt people be crying and saying my eq is killing me or my deca kills when i inject etc. its because of the ester. you very rarely hear of somebody complaining their test e hurts so bad. but by the same token look at someone who has done eq prop they cant walk for a week. jmo.

[IntenseAthlete]

^^good point.Never thought about of it that it that way.