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    Trump Was Right. There WAS A Conspiracy…

    Once again, the most astonishing feature is the demoncrats' arrogance, their nonchalance in confessing there was a powerful, well-organized and well funded conspiracy.

    Conspiracy”… “Well-Funded Cabal, Powerful People Changing Laws, Steering Media and Controlling the Flow of Information.”

    February 5, 2021 || Raheem Kassam

    Time Magazine has published intricate details of what they deem “a conspiracy unfolding behind the scenes, one that both curtailed the protests and coordinated the resistance from CEOs. Both surprises were the result of an informal alliance between left-wing activists and business titans.”

    The article, as well as Revolver.news’s assertion of the involvement of Norm Eisen in what amounted to a major admission of a globalist set up to leverage the coronavirus, mail-in voting, and corporate interest to oust President Trump from office.

    In a 6500-word article, author Molly Ball lays out how it all happened:

    The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort… Their work touched every aspect of the election. They got states to change voting systems and laws and helped secure hundreds of millions in public and private funding.

    Time Magazine is scarcely a right-wing website, and the article goes to lengths to make excuses on behalf of the “shadow” campaign, they claim: “The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all…”

    But the piece concedes “much of this activity took place on the left.”

    Time alleges campaigners “successfully pressured social media companies to take a harder line against disinformation and used data-driven strategies to fight viral smears.”

    By the eighth paragraph, Ball quotes Norm Eisen, who in early September 2020 the Revolver.news website described as the “Legal hatchet man and central operative in the “color revolution” against President Trump.”

    By the eleventh, they note the efforts of Ian Bassin, who The National Pulse exclusively reported on – also in September.

    Ball writes that “participants” like Eisen and Bassin now “want the secret history of the 2020 election told, even though it sounds like a paranoid fever dream–a well-funded cabal of powerful people, ranging across industries and ideologies, working together behind the scenes to influence perceptions, change rules and laws, steer media coverage and control the flow of information.”

    Ball identifies Mike Podhorzer, political director at AFL-CIO, as “the architect” of the conspiracy.

    Changing American Elections Forever.

    “The first task was overhauling America’s balky election infrastructure,” Time states, with particular focus on what Phil Kline and the Amistad Project had brought to the attention of the world with the assistance of The National Pulse in October.

    They admit:

    An assortment of foundations contributed tens of millions in election-administration funding. The Chan Zuckerberg Initiative chipped in $300 million.

    The story directly echoes The National Pulse reporting from October 6th, though doesn’t credit the article which stated at the time: “The group recently received $250 million from Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg, and the significant majority of the sum has been funneled into Democratic districts.”

    Using George Floyd.

    The death of George Floyd was also cynically leveraged for political ends, the article claims:

    The racial-justice uprising sparked by George Floyd’s killing in May was not primarily a political movement. The organizers who helped lead it wanted to harness its momentum for the election without allowing it to be co-opted by politicians. Many of those organizers were part of Podhorzer’s network, from the activists in battleground states who partnered with the Democracy Defense Coalition to organizations with leading roles in the Movement for Black Lives.

    And the claim is even made that campaigners should be used for their votes and those they could bring with them in their communities, but not to let them anywhere near the levers of power aka politicians.

    Big Business.

    Then, America’s big corporates stepped in.

    While the AFL-CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce pretend to be at each other’s throats, they reality is much of the back and forth is kabuki theater. The article confirms as much:

    Neil Bradley, the Chamber’s executive vice president and chief policy officer… wanted to send a broader, more bipartisan message. He reached out to Podhorzer, through an intermediary both men declined to name. Agreeing that their unlikely alliance would be powerful, they began to discuss a joint statement pledging their organizations’ shared commitment to a fair and peaceful election.

    The stage was set for the conspiracy to be carried out.

    In effect, big business, big activist groups, big unions, and big media would collaborate to keep President Trump away from office and keep reporting on the steal off the airwaves and social media.

    And while the article continues to claim the activists were not trying to stop Trump winning but rather guarantee a fair election, one line gives the whole thing away.

    Ball reveals an 11pm Zoom call on election night wherein – when President Trump was in the lead – Podhorzer stepped in to calm his colleagues down:

    “Podhorzer presented data to show the group that victory was in hand.”

    And he told Time something very true: “I don’t think the Trump campaign had a backup plan.”

    The article even claims that grassroots conservative activists came close to rumbling the plan, especially in Michigan, where observers were locked out of the counting room and placards placed on windows to stop them seeing inside.

    Claiming Credit.

    The rationale for the article is simple, and even contained within the piece:

    As I was reporting this article in November and December, I heard different claims about who should get the credit for thwarting Trump’s plot.

    Liberals argued the role of bottom-up people power shouldn’t be overlooked, particularly the contributions of people of color and local grassroots activists.

    Others stressed the heroism of GOP officials like Van Langevelde and Georgia secretary of state Brad Raffensperger, who stood up to Trump at considerable cost. The truth is that neither likely could have succeeded without the other.

    In other words, now the constituent parts are trying to claim credit, and along they way, they’ve said the quiet part out loud.


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    Subject article at Times.com

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    for the unbiased write up please see:

    https://time.com/magazine/us/?fbclid...%2F322page/319


    The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.


    Wow!!!!

    To think...
    A bipartisan group of folks trying to make sure the election was free and fair.

    What a scandal!!!!!


    Side note:
    Trump didn't claim their was a conspiracy.
    He claimed there was widespread voter fraud.
    He was wrong.
    And so was Q.
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 02-05-2021 at 01:01 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    for the unbiased write up please see:

    https://time.com/magazine/us/?fbclid...%2F322page/319


    The handshake between business and labor was just one component of a vast, cross-partisan campaign to protect the election–an extraordinary shadow effort dedicated not to winning the vote but to ensuring it would be free and fair, credible and uncorrupted. For more than a year, a loosely organized coalition of operatives scrambled to shore up America’s institutions as they came under simultaneous attack from a remorseless pandemic and an autocratically inclined President. Though much of this activity took place on the left, it was separate from the Biden campaign and crossed ideological lines, with crucial contributions by nonpartisan and conservative actors. The scenario the shadow campaigners were desperate to stop was not a Trump victory. It was an election so calamitous that no result could be discerned at all, a failure of the central act of democratic self-governance that has been a hallmark of America since its founding.


    Wow!!!!

    To think...
    A bipartisan group of folks trying to make sure the election was free and fair.

    What a scandal!!!!!


    Side note:
    Trump didn't claim their was a conspiracy.
    He claimed there was widespread voter fraud.
    He was wrong.
    And so was Q.
    Nobody that believes in a free and fair election would promote mail in voting with no signature or identity verification.

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    Interesting video.....


    https://michaeljlindell.com/?fbclid=...nE8XnsUljnkIO8


    Just sharing information

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    Nobody that believes in a free and fair election would promote mail in voting with no signature or identity verification.
    The constitution leaves it up to the states to determine how to run their elections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redz View Post
    Interesting video.....


    https://michaeljlindell.com/?fbclid=...nE8XnsUljnkIO8


    Just sharing information
    There is already a thread about this divine prophecy video.

    Took him about 5 days to make it...

    Too bad for the Trump he didn't make it before all of the 60+ court cases Trump lost.


    "We prayed over every word that was in this piece," he told The Revival Channel's host. "The last four days, 12 people, three hours of sleep a night, A lot of stuff was done in one take because the Holy Spirit was just speaking it out."

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mypi...n-trump-2021-2


    I guess if God told it to him it just must be true.


    #GodHelpOurNation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    The constitution leaves it up to the states to determine how to run their elections.
    My statement stands

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    My statement stands
    Well the professionals in every state choose their ways.
    And every single investigation by every single agency found no wide spread voter fraud.

    So it seems we all must've been very lucky this time that there wasn't wide spread fraud.
    Or...
    The professionals know more about election security than a millsmith.


    Side note:
    If there were to be wide spread fraud...
    My guess is that it would come from the political party that tried to overthrow democracy because their cult leader said to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Well the professionals in every state choose their ways.
    And every single investigation by every single agency found no wide spread voter fraud.

    So it seems we all must've been very lucky this time that there wasn't wide spread fraud.
    Or...
    The professionals know more about election security than a millsmith.


    Side note:
    If there were to be wide spread fraud...
    My guess is that it would come from the political party that tried to overthrow democracy because their cult leader said to.
    "Overthrow democracy" is a bold statement.

    In a democracy, leaders making policy for the people they're supposed to represent, don't need to be protected by razor wire and armed militias. Because that's not a democracy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    "Overthrow democracy" is a bold statement.

    In a democracy, leaders making policy for the people they're supposed to represent, don't need to be protected by razor wire and armed militias. Because that's not a democracy.
    Apparently they do when people unlawfully break into the capital building chanting about hanging the VP or should that be considered part of the process?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tarmyg View Post
    Apparently they do when people unlawfully break into the capital building chanting about hanging the VP or should that be considered part of the process?
    It was considered "part of free speech" by most of the media when it happened at the federal court house in Portland. Where they stormed the courthouse burned american flags, hung Trump dummies, while chanting "death to america"

    How was one different from the other?
    Last edited by Hughinn; 02-06-2021 at 05:12 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    It was considered "part of free speech" by most of the media when it happened at the federal court house in Portland. Where they stormed the courthouse burned american flags, hung Trump dummies, while chanting "death to america"

    How was one different from the other?
    Not answering a question by asking another one. The worlds oldest trick. Good luck, wish you the best, genuinely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    How was one different from the other?
    This has been answered many times before on this forum.

    Both riots were wrong. Lock 'em up.

    However...
    The "Antifa" riots were mostly a loose group of criminals, Antifa, and random pissed off people making an attempt to bring about police reform and equal rights.

    The "Trump" riot was a group of Trumpettes led by the President of the United States of America making an attempt to overturn an election.

    So they are both fucking asshole criminals.
    The difference is in their intent.
    One was was for social reform.
    The other was to overthrow democracy. (Yes... overturning the election results is overthrowing democracy.)

    Note: I may have to save this onto an excel spreadsheet to "copy and paste" throughout this forum.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    This has been answered many times before on this forum.

    Both riots were wrong. Lock 'em up.

    However...
    The "Antifa" riots were mostly a loose group of criminals, Antifa, and random pissed off people making an attempt to bring about police reform and equal rights.

    The "Trump" riot was a group of Trumpettes led by the President of the United States of America making an attempt to overturn an election.

    So they are both fucking asshole criminals.
    The difference is in their intent.
    One was was for social reform.
    The other was to overthrow democracy. (Yes... overturning the election results is overthrowing democracy.)

    Note: I may have to save this onto an excel spreadsheet to "copy and paste" throughout this forum.
    No sir, both of them had the same intent.

    To express disagreement with our national leadership and it's policy and Both hoped to affect the outcome of an election.

    The only difference was which leadership was being targeted.
    Last edited by Hughinn; 02-06-2021 at 08:28 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    No sir, both of them had the same intent.

    To express disagreement with our national leadership. Both hoped to affect the outcome of an election.

    The only difference was which leadership was being targeted.
    Affecting an election before it happens is legal.
    Affecting an election after it happens is illegal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post
    Affecting an election before it happens is legal.
    Affecting an election after it happens is illegal.
    No sir,

    Protesting an election or it's results at anytime is perfectly legal.

    And you stand a much better chance of affecting the results by protesting beforehand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post
    Protesting an election or it's results at anytime is perfectly legal.
    Stormin the Capitol.
    Killing a police officer.
    Injuring many others.
    Chanting "Kill Mike Pence".
    Etc...

    All in the attempt to stop the electoral process is not legal protesting.

    To prove it:
    There have been around 150 arrests and counting because of it.
    There is also an ongoing impeachment.

    Attachment 180715

    I supposed this guy was there to legally protest.


    The riot was an attempt to stop Mike Pence from counting the certified votes.
    Without Mike Pence certifying the votes Biden couldn't become president.
    Without a transfer of power democracy is over as we know it.

    So get off your high horse.
    Your team lost.
    Your team got upset.
    Part of your team attempted to shit on the constitution.

    #KillMikePence

    Attachment 180716
    Last edited by The Deadlifting Dog; 02-06-2021 at 08:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post

    Stormin the Capitol.
    Killing a police officer.
    Injuring many others.
    Chanting "Kill Mike Pence".
    Etc...

    All in the attempt to stop the electoral process is not legal protesting.

    To prove it:
    There have been around 150 arrests and counting because of it.
    There is also an ongoing impeachment.

    Attachment 180715

    I supposed this guy was there to legally protest.
    Both instances began as protests with the same intent.

    Both turned into riots because of a few individuals.

    You still haven't shown any difference.

    You can make a valid point that all rioting is wrong, you did. And I agree.

    But there's no fundamental difference in the riots. Just ideological ones.

    Fun convo. I've got to get under a welding hood for the rest of the day now. I'll check in tonight.

    Peace out.
    Last edited by Hughinn; 02-06-2021 at 08:59 AM.

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    [QUOTE=Hughinn;7541616]
    Quote Originally Posted by The Deadlifting Dog View Post

    Both instances began as protests with the same intent. Bullshit.

    Both turned into riots because of a few individuals. Trump for both.

    You still haven't shown any difference. Bullshit.
    Bullshit.

    Affecting an election before it happens is legal.
    Affecting an election after it happens is illegal.

    The riot was an attempt to stop Mike Pence from counting the certified votes.
    Without Mike Pence certifying the votes Biden couldn't become president.
    Without a transfer of power democracy is over as we know it.

    So get off your high horse.
    Your team lost.
    Your team got upset.
    Part of your team attempted to shit on the constitution.

    #KillMikePence

    Attachment 180717

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    [QUOTE=The Deadlifting Dog;7541617]
    Quote Originally Posted by Hughinn View Post

    Bullshit.

    Affecting an election before it happens is legal.
    Affecting an election after it happens is illegal.

    The riot was an attempt to stop Mike Pence from counting the certified votes.
    Without Mike Pence certifying the votes Biden couldn't become president.
    Without a transfer of power democracy is over as we know it.

    So get off your high horse.
    Your team lost.
    Your team got upset.
    Part of your team attempted to shit on the constitution.

    #KillMikePence

    Attachment 180717
    Lol.

    Ok
    Whatever you say buddy.

    Whatever you say...

    A riot ain't a riot, if it happens for reasons you agree with. Got it.
    Last edited by Hughinn; 02-06-2021 at 02:23 PM.

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