1ad/4derm pct question

[suzuki99]

i have read the faqs and what now and some other posts, i am going to be starting a 1-ad/4derm 4 week cycle. starting 1ad at 300 mg ed (i may increase after a week) and 5 sprays(~4ml) 2x ed of 4derm. Ive got horthrown berry extract for durring cycle, and milk thistle for durring cycle and pct. I have read: 6oxo isnt strong enough to be safe, hey use clomid, hey use nolvadex , hey use both. I can get a nova and clom mix or seperate, any one have any suggestions as to what to go with. I was planning on a 3 week p ct.

[Cry0smate]

I would suggest going with Nolva/Clomid especially since it's VERY easy to obtain and will deliver better results. 6-oxo doesn't really have the ability to boost your LH to bring back your test levels the way Clomid will.

[DevilsDeity]

the web site at the top of the page sells both nolva and clomid.

you can run that 1ad/4ad six weeks if you want , thats what i did . im +200lbs so i took 600-800mg of 1ad and was shut down pretty hard so the clomid would be a must , im also prone to gyno so running nolva 10ed during the cycle and then regular pct after. the 4ad 5 sprays 2xs a day also was used

[suzuki99]

yeah i was thinking both would be good, how much of each do you guys suggest for the ammount of ph's im going to take?
thanks for the answers so far, i know alot of people are asking questions very simmilar to this, i just want to be positivly sure about things and have everything ill need before i start my cycle.

[DevilsDeity]

Weeks 5-8: 40 mg ED of Nolvadex for the first two weeks, Then down to 20 mg ED of Nolvadex
Weeks 5-8: Clomid Therapy, 300 mg of clomid first day, 100 mg of clomid next 10 days, 50 mg of clomid for final 10 days of clomid therapy.--NSA m1t faq

[Cry0smate]

I think you should PCT for 4 weeks

Day 1 - 300mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 2 - 14 - 100mg Clomid, 40mg Nolva
Days 15-end - 50mg Clomid, 20mg Nolva

[Cry0smate]

Weeks 5-8: 40 mg ED of Nolvadex for the first two weeks, Then down to 20 mg ED of Nolvadex
Weeks 5-8: Clomid Therapy, 300 mg of clomid first day, 100 mg of clomid next 10 days, 50 mg of clomid for final 10 days of clomid therapy.--NSA m1t faq

LOL thanks, I was trying to remember that off the top of my head, beat me to it !!