Trenadrol might not be the same

[Merc..]

I have been reading some things and it looks like trenadrol IS NOT the same as the orignal from ALRI and from GL .. Anyone with input on this !!!

[embalmer]

don't tell me that because i bought 3 bottles

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

i hope your ****ing kidding....were are these articles at??

[unvme9180]

lol, everyone is stressed out now after buying a bunch of bottle before it got banned

[tinyguy2]

i heard that stuff has numerous side effects(this comnig from a past m1t user..haha)...whats everyone's experience with it...

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

LOL I was just about to order it, then i saw this post. I just found some phera-plex for 39$ and free shipping.....guess ill go for that think its a deal since its been discontinued

[unvme9180]

I ordered my PP a couple of weeks ago too for $35. then I started reading all this trenadrol stuff and use it with methoxy tst. I started thinking about doing it instead of my PP, but I think Ill stick with my upcoming PP cycle for now and maybe get some trenadrol or mega trn with methoxy tst and save it for later

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

what are you running during and after?

[unvme9180]

well Im running pct for my SD cycle right now. but when I run PP will run it with 1000mg of each: milk thistle, saw palmetto, hawthrone berry, red yeast rice, ff niacin and have taurine on hand for back pumps. I had them on SD and they pretty substantial for 2 weeks. I will most likely run the same pct Im running now nolva 40/40/20/20 and clomid 300 day 1, 100 next 10 days, 50 last 10 days.

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Nice. Im thinkning of going the whole Anbolic Ex. route. I know people who've done it and say it works great. I mean, if this shit is good enough..why not the rest of their prducts. Ill also be running the exact same that your doing with the other supps

[tinyguy2]

get methyl dx3 its an SD clone but its only 19 bucks cant beat that...

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

Nah. Not enough people i know, or on this board have taken it. LOL

[tinyguy2]

taurine helps with back pumps? i wish i knew that before my m1t cycle my back hurt like a bitch

[Merc..]

Here is a post from Author . L Rea. He is one of the people that helped make the original ALRI mtrn version.... You can read it a decide what you think... I highlighted a part in red but the entire post is interesting. Here is Author . L Rea post..

Good points Lad. I hope that you will be patient with me while I discuss some points of view for everyone to consider here and I will try to give you the answers you need at the end. (Yes, I am going to babble...sorry)

Interesting points of view I can agree with in part, and I am certain that most will not like the answers any more than when we opted to not market these items back in 2005...and still don't.

MTRN and MTST were designed by ALRI and are not listed in any prior research that I am aware of, or for that matter Vida. We worked with them for several years feeling rather proud to be able to present to OTC supplement users, what we felt at the time, were far superior products with safety profiles not matched by any other like-compounds of the time.

Problem was that anything of the PH nature became a serious media mania and political issue that has seriously harmed the entire supplement industry in the US and Europe. Just because no one here would agree with it does not make it go away.

Odd, seems that if the issue were that such items will harm our children that age limits that allow cigarettes and alcohol to assumed used responsibly would somehow not do so for a supplement.

Worse is that the media up-roar was based upon pro-athletes (whom are banned from using the products) were the basis for political intervention. Hmmm, assuming this ideal is correct, all males should be concerned about mandated castration due to the desire to prevent teen premarital sex.

Point is that the issue has nothing to do with those who are simply seeking better potential for results and are NOT among the few pro-athletes.

We never released MTST but did have a some units of MTRN make their way to the US market which we recalled for the above reasons. Sucks, but true.

The terms used to define structure are no less ambiguous than the generic terms androstenedione or Cissus.

There are two sides to the issue giving the type of structural info being discussed and it was the final reason ALRI removed itself from that part of the industry last year.

1) Giving the type of nomenclature that is being discussed would allow the knock offs to begin. I am sure most do not work for free or buy a house and let someone else sell it and keep the money after paying all the bills and do all the work to get it. But if so, please LMK as I would like to get all of the free houses others willingness to work for free allows.

As an example, there is a newer attempt at knocking off the old MTRN product by KS that is no where near correct. Hard to knock off what you do not know how to create yourself. Qualified people like Patrick Arnold and Dr. D "could" easily do so, but would not due to the mutual passion for innovation such minds share. As to Catlin, no doubt he does have the structures, there was no effort to protect anything from detection. Nothing illegal to consider.
2) if you create it, you get to name it. But not sure it really matters any more, at least to ALRI, as we are out of that area of the market totally to avoid all of the negative such issues brings. We are busy developing products that work and do not include the need to deal with Balco type issues. Innovation has not died, but the knock offs will need to go elsewhere.

Of course there will be one idiot who will jump into this forum sooner or later and either post "something shady" or argue something they know nothing about as usual, but for the really great people here at AM I hope this was of some help:

There is a valid point that should be answered here, no, TST had no progestin structural relationships. It also has no testosterone metabolites and is totally detectable.

TRN was not methoxy trenbolone . Real TRN made most horny, methoxy trenbolone would be a liver killer and libido death

[ImACrazyJewDaddy]

damn aw well. Thanks mercedesdd

[Hardcore189]

was gonna do a cycle of trenadrol but i guess thats not the best idea after reading that...thanx for the info...kinda upset but happy to be educated

[Merc..]

Just wanted to post it .. Not really saying I know anything .. Dont want to bash any company or anything like that.. I just saw this thread and found it interesting. You never know the full truth behind these company's as this could be total BS( some inside kinda crap you never know).. But anyways just wanted to put it here so you can decide for yourselves.....

[Merc..]

Nah. Not enough people i know, or on this board have taken it. LOL

Check your PM !!!!

[embalmer]

so tren is the real deal but bad sides from what i have read?