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    Question Superdrol and Liquidex as PCT...???

    I've done a cycle of SD and used only ReboundXT in the past...everything seemed great. What about using Liquidex for the PCT? And I've been given advice to not use anything but SD during cycle...that it's not needed till post cycle. Any advice? Just trying to find the right PCT. I'm going to start SD tomorrow. Thanks.

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    From what I have gathered here, Nolva and Clomid would be good for PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoisonPen
    From what I have gathered here, Nolva and Clomid would be good for PCT.
    Go with clomid and nolva for PCT. Leave the arimidex out for PCT. Superdrol is harsh on blood lipids and the arimidex could make it worse. It suppresses so much estrogen that your blood lipids take a hit. The clomid/nolva combo can help improve your lipid profile. After PCT, you can run arimidex at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks and it will nearly double your test levels (without being suppresive).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Go with clomid and nolva for PCT. Leave the arimidex out for PCT. Superdrol is harsh on blood lipids and the arimidex could make it worse. It suppresses so much estrogen that your blood lipids take a hit. The clomid/nolva combo can help improve your lipid profile. After PCT, you can run arimidex at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks and it will nearly double your test levels (without being suppresive).
    amen brother...took the words right out of my mouth

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    ditto!

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    can't arimidex give you rebound gyno tho. you would probably be fine jsut novla

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    Thanks again!...good information as always.

    Good question on the rebound gyno.......would appreciate an answer to that since gyno scares the shit out me.

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    I got Gyno from SD cycle i used REbound XT as PCT

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    that is why u shouldnt take steroids without research becuase now u got boobies

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    who ever adviced you to take nothing during SD cycle are wrong. i would recoment taking nolva during and after and for pct take clomid with nolva. theres also alot of other things that are a must and you can find them here posted in any sd cycle thread

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    novla is unecessary while on

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinyguy2
    novla is unecessary while on
    Agreed.

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    superdrol is a progestin, using nolva after/during can actually cause or exacerbate existing gyno...

    just a word of warning.

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    clomid on the other hand does not upregulate the PgR ( as nolva does)

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    superdrol is a progestin, using nolva after/during can actually cause or exacerbate existing gyno...

    just a word of warning.
    So you would recommend a clomid-only PCT for Superdrol or Phera Plex?

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    clomid is a better choice than nolva in this case generally

    though superdrol and other progestins can be very suppresive- so clomid alone while probably fine is not ideal.

    clomid + AI (aromasin or AIFM-suicidal aromatase inhibitors) + low dose (200 iu HCG .. e4d)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Go with clomid and nolva for PCT. Leave the arimidex out for PCT. Superdrol is harsh on blood lipids and the arimidex could make it worse. It suppresses so much estrogen that your blood lipids take a hit. The clomid/nolva combo can help improve your lipid profile. After PCT, you can run arimidex at 0.5mg ED for 4 weeks and it will nearly double your test levels (without being suppresive).
    Well said,I used Rebound xt and Retain for pct and had no problems too but then again i didnt no how to get a hold of clomid and nolva at that time,i also used milk thistle everyday.I also stacked SD with Promagnon 25 had GREAT results!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    clomid is a better choice than nolva in this case generally

    though superdrol and other progestins can be very suppresive- so clomid alone while probably fine is not ideal.

    clomid + AI (aromasin or AIFM-suicidal aromatase inhibitors) + low dose (200 iu HCG.. e4d)
    So you don't think that the AI would have a negative effect on cholesterol (considering a person would have just run Superdrol, for example)?

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    Subscribing..

    I have been recommending a clomid/nolva pct for superdrol..

    I dont want to be giving poor advice.

    Papi, have you done a SD cycle and if so, what did you PCT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss
    Subscribing..

    I have been recommending a clomid/nolva pct for superdrol..

    I dont want to be giving poor advice.

    Papi, have you done a SD cycle and if so, what did you PCT.
    No. I have done two PP cycles. I ran nolva/clomid for the both of them. Macro says take out the nolva and add an AI (liquidex-arimidex ). Bump for his reply on how blood lipid levels would be affected.

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    Bump. If you guys want this answered, help me with the bumps.

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    im with you papi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss
    im with you papi.
    Thanks for the help.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    No. I have done two PP cycles. I ran nolva/clomid for the both of them. Macro says take out the nolva and add an AI (liquidex-arimidex). Bump for his reply on how blood lipid levels would be affected.
    use aromasin , no impact on lipids (you could also use AIFM )

    you can use clomid, it does not appear to upregulate the PgR.

    you can also use low dose HCG (with the AI of your choice- though aromasin and AIFM are superior because they are suicidal inhibitors)

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    btw- clomid alone is OK, just not a guarantee (though no PCT is). its still a reasonable reccomendation, its just not ideal

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    use aromasin , no impact on lipids (you could also use AIFM )

    you can use clomid, it does not appear to upregulate the PgR.

    you can also use low dose HCG (with the AI of your choice- though aromasin and AIFM are superior because they are suicidal inhibitors)
    Thank you. Interesting about the aromasin. How many mg would go, per day, with the aromasin (25mg?)?
    Last edited by Papi93; 07-17-2006 at 06:41 PM.

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    where do you get this aromasin ? Forgive my ignorance. and yes, how much should the dosage be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kristofer68ss
    where do you get this aromasin? Forgive my ignorance. and yes, how much should the dosage be?
    AR sells it. Click on the banner and look under the research chemicals. I'm waiting for Macro to get back to me on the dosage.

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    bump. this is good info here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Papi93
    Thank you. Interesting about the aromasin. How many mg would go, per day, with the aromasin (25mg?)?

    reccomend 20-25mg. though you could go as low as 10mg. best thing is to try 25mg, see how that treats you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by macrophage69alpha
    reccomend 20-25mg. though you could go as low as 10mg. best thing is to try 25mg, see how that treats you.
    Thanks for all of your help.

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    I used clomid as a pct and had good results..but what would happen if some one didn't use a pct? Cuz the bottle says nothing about it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigCarrne
    I used clomid as a pct and had good results..but what would happen if some one didn't use a pct? Cuz the bottle says nothing about it?
    Clomid helps restore your blood lipid profile. This very important when you are taking Superdrol. It will also restore your natural test levels. Go to their website, they recommend a PCT there. Not as good as the one we recommend here, but a PCT nonetheless.

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