Little brothers Libido shut down HARD from sd/1ad/4ad stack: Need help with PCT

**Mogamedogz** · 09-05-2007, 08:52 AM

Any idea what i should suggest to him for PCT.

I have Nolva and Clomid on Hand to give him.

Im figuring Nolva at 60/40/20/20 and maybe some OTC Test booster like Mynogenx to help boost his test levels??

Any other suggestions?? (I have no idea when it comes to using Prohormones)

**bulldawg_28** · 09-05-2007, 01:57 PM

Yeah nolva,clomid, and myo will definetly help with his libido and recovery. I'd also throw in some maca and fenugreek to help increase his libido. You can get these cheap on bulk nutrition.

**Mogamedogz** · 09-05-2007, 02:43 PM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

Yeah nolva,clomid, and myo will definetly help with his libido and recovery. I'd also throw in some maca and fenugreek to help increase his libido. You can get these cheap on bulk nutrition.

You think Nolva AND Clomid? I was thinking about ordering him some of the Mynogenx stuff that some dude here reccomended before.

**K.Biz** · 09-05-2007, 04:51 PM

Nolva 40/40/20/20 mg

MyoGenX 12/6/6/6 (pills)

CyoGenx 3/3/3/3 (pills)

have him run that. the cyo will really help recover not just his free test but his cholesterol levels and a bunch of other things. the nolva will also help with free test and make sure his ass doesnt get some nice titties. and of course the myo will get his balls back into full function.

and why the hell did he run SD/4-ad and 1-ad?

**Mogamedogz** · 09-05-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

and why the hell did he run SD/4-ad and 1-ad?

Basically because he is retarded. (He did blow up like a freakin Hulk though! lol)

Anyway... I warned him, he didnt listen... now he has the sex drive of a rock.

Thanks for the suggest. I'll give him some of my nolva and have him order the other stuff.

**bulldawg_28** · 09-05-2007, 07:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mogamedogz

Basically because he is retarded. (He did blow up like a freakin Hulk though! lol)

Anyway... I warned him, he didnt listen... now he has the sex drive of a rock.

Thanks for the suggest. I'll give him some of my nolva and have him order the other stuff.

I honestly don't think it was a bad stack. But I do think it's a stack for a more experienced ph or aas user.

**K.Biz** · 09-06-2007, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

I honestly don't think it was a bad stack. But I do think it's a stack for a more experienced ph or aas user.

Its certianly not a great stack. and no PCT? wtf are u thinking?

at least he has a good brother to look out for him. somthing like that could of ****ed up his libido for a LONG time or possibly forever

**Mogamedogz** · 09-06-2007, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

Its certianly not a great stack. and no PCT? wtf are u thinking?

at least he has a good brother to look out for him. somthing like that could of ****ed up his libido for a LONG time or possibly forever

Well, in his defense. He had some PCT. But it was that OTC crap that the guy at the local protien shop sold him. 60x0

He is just too dumb to realize that he is going to need more than that to rebound.

I gave him some Nolva... Im gonna have him look into the other two things.

**edgarr** · 09-06-2007, 01:34 PM

Tonkat Ali or Red Kat worked for me.

**bulldawg_28** · 09-06-2007, 10:51 PM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

Its certianly not a great stack. and no PCT? wtf are u thinking?

at least he has a good brother to look out for him. somthing like that could of ****ed up his libido for a LONG time or possibly forever

It's ****ed up that he had no ancillaries for pct or during cycle. But the stack itself isn't bad imo.

In fact, I know a few guys that had great results running 4-ad(transdermal) w/ SD. From what they told me their libido was better on cycle, as well as better gains, not to mention no lethargy. Throwing in some 1-ad at 300mg-600mg ed would be a great addition to the stack too.

But if someone were to add in 1-ad (which isn't methylated btw), then I do think the person should run more supporting supps for blood pressure, and cholesterol, etc.

On a sidenote, you spiked my curiousity K.biz. Why do you think this isn't a good stack?

**K.Biz** · 09-07-2007, 03:00 AM

Originally Posted by bulldawg_28

It's ****ed up that he had no ancillaries for pct or during cycle. But the stack itself isn't bad imo.

In fact, I know a few guys that had great results running 4-ad(transdermal) w/ SD. From what they told me their libido was better on cycle, as well as better gains, not to mention no lethargy. Throwing in some 1-ad at 300mg-600mg ed would be a great addition to the stack too.

But if someone were to add in 1-ad (which isn't methylated btw), then I do think the person should run more supporting supps for blood pressure, and cholesterol, etc.

On a sidenote, you spiked my curiousity K.biz. Why do you think this isn't a good stack?

SD is a pretty damn strong designer steroid . prob one of the most powerful besides m1t. and now the most powerful on the market. theres no need to stack it with somthing else. Eeven no i am contradicting myself since i did stack it with PP, but i learned from my mistakes. more s NOT always better. there no need to put more stress on you HPTA and just because ur taking more support supps doesnt mean your body is using them. they only work to a certian extent. poeple think just because they pop some niacin and ryr there cholesterols gonna be ok. well mabye so, but that also may have no effecton you as well. same goes hawthorn berry for BP, hey it could help some guy lower his BP to a perfect level but for you or me it might not do anything. Now while increasing support supps when taking more is always a good idea, its not always the solution. i personally think SD/4-ad/1-ad is a waste of money IMHO, and lil dangerous. while put your body under so much stress when you done have to?

just my 2 pennies.

**bulldawg_28** · 09-09-2007, 03:01 AM

Originally Posted by K.Biz

SD is a pretty damn strong designer steroid . prob one of the most powerful besides m1t. and now the most powerful on the market. theres no need to stack it with somthing else. Eeven no i am contradicting myself since i did stack it with PP, but i learned from my mistakes. more s NOT always better. there no need to put more stress on you HPTA and just because ur taking more support supps doesnt mean your body is using them. they only work to a certian extent. poeple think just because they pop some niacin and ryr there cholesterols gonna be ok. well mabye so, but that also may have no effecton you as well. same goes hawthorn berry for BP, hey it could help some guy lower his BP to a perfect level but for you or me it might not do anything. Now while increasing support supps when taking more is always a good idea, its not always the solution. i personally think SD/4-ad/1-ad is a waste of money IMHO, and lil dangerous. while put your body under so much stress when you done have to?

just my 2 pennies.

Even though I disagree with some of what you said, I respect your opinion.

**stocky121** · 09-09-2007, 04:17 AM

i wouldent run nlova

this is what's in my sticky

Why not nolva? Superdrol and pheraplex are progestins which means that means that nolva can cause or make existing gyno worse. Macrophage69alpha (supplement guru): Clomid does not upregulate the PgR (as nolva does). After speaking with Macro, he recommended stacking clomid (SERM) and aromasin (AI) together. The aromasin is not supposed to have a negative impact on blood lipid levels, like other AI's can.

but another AI in aromasin's place would be fine