promagnon and mass tabs

**freakon** · 09-18-2007, 09:36 PM

i ordered both, depending which one gets here first it will be the cycle i will start with. whats the normal dosage that you folks normally run these two PH's, i dont mean stacked but as an individual PH. Hopefully the mass tabs arrrive here first as thats the one that seems to have the greater review. i already have my serms in place and will be adding some tamox/aromasin as a PCT. thanks

**oak2429** · 09-19-2007, 10:05 AM

I took promag and gained about 12lbs. it was awesome. took 2 pills a day for the 30 days. i took ripped tabs along with it.

**madds87** · 09-21-2007, 10:34 PM

i would think it would have same results aas oak's cycle. i took mass tabs an got gyno with it..... so everyone is diff. but i would just keeo an out. and make sure to get your pct's and off cycle.

**bcaasdirty** · 09-22-2007, 05:11 AM

Originally Posted by madds87

i would think it would have same results aas oak's cycle. i took mass tabs an got gyno with it..... so everyone is diff. but i would just keeo an out. and make sure to get your pct's and off cycle.

alrite you need to stop giving advice about otc roids !

you dont TAKE your 'pct's'

pct is POST CYCLE THERAPY ...the time after a cycle when you restart your hpta!

see all the threads that say IMPORTANT in red on top? read ALL of those
http://forums.steroid.com/pct-post-cycle-therapy/

**suprman09** · 09-22-2007, 06:11 PM

do you guys think oral turinabol and promag are pretty similar?

**bcaasdirty** · 09-22-2007, 07:12 PM

if my memory serves me right, haladrol 50 was supposed to be VERY similar to oral turinabol , and if my memory is still workin haladrol = promagnon!

so by process of deduction promagnon would be VERY similar to tbol!

**suprman09** · 09-22-2007, 10:37 PM

and since oral turinabol has a low androgenic rate is it safe to say hair loss would be very minimal?

**bcaasdirty** · 09-23-2007, 06:07 AM

Originally Posted by suprman09

and since oral turinabol has a low androgenic rate is it safe to say hair loss would be very minimal?

i dunno!

one would think that to be true but...
just because promag is 'similar' to tbol, doesnt mean it will have the same effects!

lets take a gander at superdrol
one of the roids superdrol is derived from is masteron ...now look at how masteron and superdrol behave once ingested...COMPLETELY different! never in a million years couldl you put on 15lbs in 4 weeks w/ mast

its a crapshoot to know how these designer roids will behave once ingested EVEN if we know what 'real' roids they are derived/designed from

the BEST way to figure out if its hard on hair loss is to read about other ppl's experiences

**androbolic_09** · 09-23-2007, 07:35 PM

promag doesnt = halo50 they are close, but slightly different. Promag resembles clostebol and halo50 resembles Oral Turinabol .

**bcaasdirty** · 09-23-2007, 08:13 PM

Originally Posted by androbolic_09

promag doesnt = halo50 they are close, but slightly different. Promag resembles clostebol and halo50 resembles Oral Turinabol.

i had nvr heard of that stuff b4! good stuff sir

**androbolic_09** · 09-23-2007, 09:56 PM

Thanks. Im a research nut, and came across a prohormone/designer steroid profile list, and that was on it! Just thought i would help some bros out.

**freakon** · 09-23-2007, 10:11 PM

what about mass tabs? what steroid is that derived from?

**number twelve** · 09-23-2007, 10:16 PM

lol funny i saw this thread, i just ordered some mass tabs and promag myself

**bcaasdirty** · 09-24-2007, 05:29 AM

Originally Posted by freakon

what about mass tabs? what steroid is that derived from?

masstabs when it first came otu was called 'superdrol with an attitude'

its supposed to be like superdrol with some m1t characteristcis to it!

so IF that is true...it is derived from...

masteron & mestanolone (superdrol)

&

more or less dbol (m1t)
-----
M1T is d-bol in its 5a-reduced form...

Testosterone + double bold (1st position) = boldenone .

Boldenone + 5alpha reduction = DI-HYDRO-boldenone. (1-testosterone)

DI-HYDRO--boldenone + 17alpha alkylation = M1T.
------

u can thank bajanbastard for that lil m1t formula!

**bcaasdirty** · 09-24-2007, 05:30 AM

Originally Posted by number twelve

lol funny i saw this thread, i just ordered some mass tabs and promag myself

u BEST NOT be stacking those yo!

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-24-2007, 12:21 PM

Originally Posted by bcaasdirty

u BEST NOT be stacking those yo!

lol oh god. here we go with the "Dont Stack!" shit again

**bcaasdirty** · 09-24-2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

lol oh god. here we go with the "Dont Stack!" shit again

**suprman09** · 09-24-2007, 03:17 PM

Since the compounds are very similar, what do you think the difference is between HD50(oral turinabol ) and Promagnon(clostebol)? There is no profile for clostebol, and not much info on this site about it.

**freakon** · 09-24-2007, 04:35 PM

on the back of my Promag bottle it states "Do not use for more than 30 days without a 90 day break in between" damn thats a long time to start another cycle! will the "time in between" be shortened if i am going to be using some nolva/aromasin after my cycle? i am planning on trying out the Mass tabs after but dont want to wait no freakin 90 days

**xlxBigSexyxlx** · 09-24-2007, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by freakon

on the back of my Promag bottle it states "Do not use for more than 30 days without a 90 day break in between" damn thats a long time to start another cycle! will the "time in between" be shortened if i am going to be using some nolva/aromasin after my cycle? i am planning on trying out the Mass tabs after but dont want to wait no freakin 90 days

rule of thumb is
days on=days off

30day cycle, 30day PCT, then wait 60days and your good to go

**bcaasdirty** · 09-24-2007, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by suprman09

Since the compounds are very similar, what do you think the difference is between HD50(oral turinabol) and Promagnon(clostebol)? There is no profile for clostebol, and not much info on this site about it.

do u EVER stop w/ the questions???

im juss playin bro

personally, i havent a clue

i think the only way to REALLY kno is to find someone who has ran both and have them discuss their experience

thats one of the BIG problems with all these designer/otc steroids ...there is SUCH a lack of data about them because they are so new so its very hard to answer questions like the one you have

*waits for person who has ran both hd & promag to chime in*

**bcaasdirty** · 09-24-2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

rule of thumb is
days on=days off

30day cycle, 30day PCT, then wait 60days and your good to go

BINGO!

man who taught u that one, upstate?

**suprman09** · 09-24-2007, 05:32 PM

lol thanks, i know im asking a lot but i just want to make sure i know what im putting into my body

**androbolic_09** · 09-24-2007, 08:35 PM

Originally Posted by suprman09

lol thanks, i know im asking a lot but i just want to make sure i know what im putting into my body

Well, Clostebol isn't as powerful as Turinabol , but their metabolites react different than their parent hormones. The results are nearly the same, with halo putting slightly more than promag, even though promag looks stronger on paper.

**freakon** · 09-24-2007, 08:40 PM

Originally Posted by xlxBigSexyxlx

rule of thumb is
days on=days off

30day cycle, 30day PCT, then wait 60days and your good to go

so besides my diet what can i do to keep my gains? any magic formulas out there

**androbolic_09** · 09-24-2007, 08:40 PM

Halodrol-50, and Clones
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-4-ene-3,17 diol
Pill Size: 50mg
Dosages: 25-50mg
Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle. This is a prosteroid of Turinabol .

Promagnon-25
Dosages: 25-75mg
Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds.
Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.

and here is the profile on clostebol:
http://www.steroid.com/Megagrisevit-Mono.new.php

**freakon** · 09-24-2007, 10:44 PM

and here is the profile on clostebol:
http://www.steroid.com/Megagrisevit-Mono.new.php[/QUOTE]

well....i just checked the link on clostebol and it states no hair loss, no acne and no aromatization. this steroid "promag" seems pretty safe, so is it also safe to assume that no PCT is required? it also states on the promag site that "no known side effects", although i'll still run a PCT after my cycle is over to be on the safe side.

**bcaasdirty** · 09-25-2007, 03:47 AM

Originally Posted by freakon

so besides my diet what can i do to keep my gains? any magic formulas out there

run a proper pct
keep cals up during pct
add in creatine during pct

**bcaasdirty** · 09-25-2007, 03:49 AM

Originally Posted by androbolic_09

Halodrol-50, and Clones
Nomenclature: 4-chloro-17a-methyl-4-ene-3,17 diol
Pill Size: 50mg
Dosages: 25-50mg
Side effects: Heptatoxicity, lower back/calf pumps
Reputation: Milder than superdrol or pheraplex. Modest gains in mass and strength. Most users take this as part of a cutting cycle. This is a prosteroid of Turinabol .

Promagnon-25
Dosages: 25-75mg
Nomenclature:4-chloro-17a-methyl-andro-4-ene-3,17b-diol
Side effects: The usual sides associated with methylated compounds.
Reputation: Very similar to that of Halodrol-50, although people who've tried both seem to prefer Halodrol. For a while a lot of people were conviced that these two products were one in the same. Rest assured, they are not. This is a methyl derivative of clostebol.

and here is the profile on clostebol:
http://www.steroid.com/Megagrisevit-Mono.new.php

great stuff bro!

**bcaasdirty** · 09-25-2007, 03:55 AM

Originally Posted by freakon

and here is the profile on clostebol:
http://www.steroid.com/Megagrisevit-Mono.new.php

well....i just checked the link on clostebol and it states no hair loss, no acne and no aromatization. this steroid "promag" seems pretty safe, so is it also safe to assume that no PCT is required? it also states on the promag site that "no known side effects", although i'll still run a PCT after my cycle is over to be on the safe side.

NO NO and NO!

1) dont assume promag and hd to be 'safe'...theyre ne thing but...they're BOTH methylated which can cause a WHOLE host of probs! read kbiz's sticky up top about sd/pp--A LOT of whats true for those in terms of side effects can b applied to just about any methylated steroid
2)dont ever believe the crap a company posts about their product on their own site
3)i think you are confusing side effects (no hair loss, no ance, no aromatization) and pct. Just because something cannot aromatize does not mean its 'safe'. Again these products r toxic steroids and NEED to have a proper post cycle run following their use & should have have all proper support supps run w/ them as well.