Thread: Cardio PWO supplement?
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08-28-2008, 11:13 AM #1
Cardio PWO supplement?
What do you guys recommend as a supplement for an in intense PWO one? I'm running now 60-70 min/day, have been trying a piece of fruit (apple or peach), 1 c applesauce with 25 g of whey protein mixed in. I crash pretty hard about 45-60 mins PWO with this combo, and then become ravenous soon after. Obviously I'm a noob, have been doing mostly natural food for recovery from distance runs (I'm a runner, not a builder, but you guys rock with the advice).
My goal is increased endurance up to 2-3 hours (I can pound out 90 mins now at a slow pace if I had to, but would likely end it with an injury, but to illustrate cardio base). Also trying to cut fat, cut fat, and cut fat.
6'0
213 lbs (weighed this am)
24% BF as of this am also
47 frikkin' years old
have been running distance for years and years, but decreased due to work, got fluffy, now trying to lean up.
currently doing:
HGH 4 IUs ed x 5, off x 2
test cyp 200 mg per wk
HCG 500 IUs x 2 prior to test
I'm also trying to revamp my diet per the suggestions here, and just came off being a veg, to eat some chicken last night, so I'm working on the diet, but the PWO supplement is the most problematic in terms of how I feel with my cardio.
Since my cardio precedes the high rep lifting I am doing now, I assume whatever you suggest for PWO will work for lift and non-lift days since there's a lot of cardio before.
btw, I'm referring to any powder, such as malto/dextro, whey, etc., as a supplement...
ThanksLast edited by TRA; 08-28-2008 at 11:17 AM. Reason: clarification, to further showcase my ignorance
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08-28-2008, 08:13 PM #2
i dont know if your training for an event, if so then this next tip is irrelevant because you wont gain the type of endurance you'll need for say, a marathon if you only do cardio for 30 minutes. but heres my advice: cardio over 30 - 35 minutes begins to burn muscle mass instead of body fat, so don't do as much cardio, just do more efficient cardio for a half hour. Like jumping rope or swimming for example. Jumping rope for 10 minutes is like running for a half hour. Also, applesauce is awful for someone whose trying to lose body fat, its way too high in sugar. Also, thank god your not a vegetarian anymore lol. Much of the protein you'd receive from a vegetarian diet would be soy and soy protein lowers testosterone levels in men. Great PWO supps are Whey and Casein proteins (which can be bought pre-mixed in the same product), glutamine (recovery and joints), BCAA's (protein synthesis, overall just a good supp) calcium, zinc, vitamin C, and fish oil/flax seed oil are all good stuff. get everything in powder or liquid form if possible for max absorption. hope that helps, good luck. if you have anymore questions just post em.
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08-28-2008, 08:19 PM #3
Helps a lot. Thanks...but not sure if I'll be able to cut back the runs...I usually work up to 2 hour runs when I have time...it's my obsession...but if I don't get the results I want, esp since I"m paying out the nose for HGH, I'll heed your advice. I just like the great endurance that long runs impart.
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09-04-2008, 01:34 AM #4
Protein, Glutamine and Amino Acids and you will be good.
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