still on the European market?

**El Corvino** · 11-10-2009, 04:12 AM

Some of the older guys I work out with swear by the original Ultimate Orange. They claim it was the best prework out and made you feel like the hulk.

The new US version shows no ephedra and cut down a bunch of their previous ingredients. Anywho, if any of you guys are still using the old school stuff (from back in 94 I believe it was) let me know.

**El Corvino** · 11-10-2009, 04:14 PM

wrong section?

**Mooseman33** · 11-10-2009, 04:41 PM

wow, blast from the past...

**El Corvino** · 11-10-2009, 04:43 PM

That it is... from what I've heard, the original made you feel like will smith in the movie hancock. haha they said it'll make you feel like you can stop a train. Everyone who ever touched it said they loved it... I was just curious if it was available in any foreign markets or if they just did away with it entirely?

**Mooseman33** · 11-10-2009, 04:53 PM

that was when stuff was good...

i used to love ripped fuel

**El Corvino** · 11-10-2009, 05:03 PM

Originally Posted by Mooseman33

that was when stuff actually worked...

i used to love ripped fuel

Fixed that for you. Maybe I'm just being harsh and comparing OTC stuff to AAS... but I really don't find any of the current OTC stuff to be anything more than hopes and dreams.