Ne1 get nightweats and suffer from insomina whilst using tren based prohormones????

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-21-2010, 09:10 AM

Yo.

I am thinking of using a tren based prohormone (possibly 1-T Tren by Primordial Performance) to put muscle on and keep strength whilst cutting on Clenbuterol ....

I read that with tren based products such as the 1 stated above u get the same sides with trenbolone , methyltrienolone (metribolone, oral tren) acne, reduced libido, tren dick, tren cough, sweating, making gyno worst (if using aromatizing aas), hairloss (if user is susceptible to Male Pattern Baldness) aggression, excess facial hair, oily skin, nightsweats and insomnia....

Has anyone on who used tren based PHs suffered from nightsweats and imsonia?

Who bad was the expereinces?

Who has had tren cough whilst on tren based PHs?

My PCT:
Formestane or adex
Topical Resveratrol

Liver protection:
Milk Thistle
ALA
NAC
CLA
Liv-52

Cardio care:
Red Yeast Rice - first ever statin
Fish Oils
Flax Seed
Green Tea Extract (good for lowering bp aswell)
Chocolate (good for calories and gr8 antioxidant)

Blood pressure:
Aspirin or dandelion root or cytodyne taraxatone or l-arginine

Acne:
Vit B5

Cortisol:
Vit C (at 1.5 pils a day)

SHBG:
Nettle extract n/or wild out extraxt

Prolactin/progesterone:
Formestane works as an prolactin-progesterone inhibitor

Thyroid:
Guugul and or coleus

Clen sides:
Potassium
Taurine
Aspirin

**POPS** · 02-21-2010, 01:59 PM

the only thing I noticed with the original spawn was intense sweating DURING training. Not at night.....thats about it...

Im no rocket scientist but are those supplements part of your list to take IF you take a tren product?

How many caps/day is that?

Based on what I see, I would think twice and find other tren type logs and do some more research before choose to go this route...

A lot seems like overkill.....jmo.....

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-21-2010, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by POPS

the only thing I noticed with the original spawn was intense sweating DURING training. Not at night.....thats about it...

Im no rocket scientist but are those supplements part of your list to take IF you take a tren product?

How many caps/day is that?

Based on what I see, I would think twice and find other tren type logs and do some more research before choose to go this route...

A lot seems like overkill.....jmo.....

Thanxs bro.

Really needed that!

They r IF I take a tren product except the fish oils which I already take as part of the diet!

R taklin bout the tren or the supplements?

Goose said my research was good and said well done!

**bigslick7878** · 02-21-2010, 02:50 PM

Just added Tren LV to my Hdrol for the final month. I have heard about people getting night sweats though on Tren products, will let you know if I have any.

**Machdiesel** · 02-21-2010, 05:05 PM

lol your gonna take all that while on cycle?

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-21-2010, 05:15 PM

Originally Posted by bigslick7878

Just added Tren LV to my Hdrol for the final month. I have heard about people getting night sweats though on Tren products, will let you know if I have any.

cool.

thanx bruv.

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-21-2010, 05:16 PM

Originally Posted by Machdiesel

lol your gonna take all that while on cycle?

better be safe than sorry....

yeah i will take all of that while on cycle!

**POPS** · 02-21-2010, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

Yo.

I am thinking of using a tren based prohormone (possibly 1-T Tren by Primordial Performance) to put muscle on and keep strength whilst cutting on Clenbuterol ....

I read that with tren based products such as the 1 stated above u get the same sides with trenbolone , methyltrienolone (metribolone, oral tren) acne, reduced libido, tren dick, tren cough, sweating, making gyno worst (if using aromatizing aas), hairloss (if user is susceptible to Male Pattern Baldness) aggression, excess facial hair, oily skin, nightsweats and insomnia....

Has anyone on who used tren based PHs suffered from nightsweats and imsonia?

Who bad was the expereinces?

Who has had tren cough whilst on tren based PHs?

My PCT:
Formestane or adex
Topical Resveratrol

Liver protection:
Milk Thistle
ALA
NAC
CLA
Liv-52

Cardio care:
Red Yeast Rice - first ever statin
Fish Oils
Flax Seed
Green Tea Extract (good for lowering bp aswell)
Chocolate (good for calories and gr8 antioxidant)

Blood pressure:
Aspirin or dandelion root or cytodyne taraxatone or l-arginine

Acne:
Vit B5

Cortisol:
Vit C (at 1.5 pils a day)

SHBG:
Nettle extract n/or wild out extraxt

Prolactin/progesterone:
Formestane works as an prolactin-progesterone inhibitor

Thyroid:
Guugul and or coleus

Clen sides:
Potassium
Taurine
Aspirin

look into either life support by annabolic innovations or cycle assist by cel. These 2 products have all the support you will need instead of piecing them together. Also, taurine at 3000mg /day is needed......

**DarnGoodLookin** · 02-22-2010, 03:12 AM

I had some slight insomnia while I was on Forged Extreme Mass, which is tren , hdrol, phera. I think the most sleep I got was 4-6 hours. It did make me overly aggressive as well as make me cough. Cardio was a pain in that @$$, and my libido did decrease.

**Okinawa_Power** · 02-22-2010, 07:23 AM

I got night sweats, insomnia, and could not walk up a flight of stairs without being out of breath on Spawn, X-Tren /E-Stane........Tren based PH/DS will have this affect on you. Can't wait to try the REAL tren!!!!!!!! Going to be ****ing awesome!!!!!! As for not wanting sex...well......Tren is never run alone without Test......You will have no sex drive at ALL........

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 09:07 AM

Originally Posted by POPS

look into either life support by annabolic innovations or cycle assist by cel. These 2 products have all the support you will need instead of piecing them together. Also, taurine at 3000mg /day is needed......

Bruv.

I like those 2 products alot!....

How effective are they though?

I know the Taurine is needed for muscle cramps!

I thought I put that in the OP!

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power

I got night sweats, insomnia, and could not walk up a flight of stairs without being out of breath on Spawn, X-Tren/E-Stane........Tren based PH/DS will have this affect on you. Can't wait to try the REAL tren!!!!!!!! Going to be ****ing awesome!!!!!! As for not wanting sex...well......Tren is never run alone without Test......You will have no sex drive at ALL........

I know Tren is total libido killer!....

That is y I am usin an AI, resveratrol and 1-T Tren has got a test PH in it and a DHEA PH in it!

What can I do to prevent/emiliorate the effect?

Do u know any natural/herbal sleeping supps?

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 09:11 AM

Originally Posted by DarnGoodLookin

I had some slight insomnia while I was on Forged Extreme Mass, which is tren, hdrol, phera. I think the most sleep I got was 4-6 hours. It did make me overly aggressive as well as make me cough. Cardio was a pain in that @$$, and my libido did decrease.

Fookin hell mate!

that is proper mental!

**bigslick7878** · 02-22-2010, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

Do u know any natural/herbal sleeping supps?

Weed.

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 02:38 PM

Originally Posted by bigslick7878

Weed.

bro.... bro.....

i dont think weed n anabolics mix....

weed is very estrogenic n would cause further probs!

**bigslick7878** · 02-22-2010, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

bro.... bro.....

i dont think weed n anabolics mix....

weed is very estrogenic n would cause further probs!

I was semi joking but that is the first I have ever heard of weed being "estrogenic".

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by Okinawa_Power

I got night sweats, insomnia, and could not walk up a flight of stairs without being out of breath on Spawn, X-Tren/E-Stane........Tren based PH/DS will have this affect on you. Can't wait to try the REAL tren!!!!!!!! Going to be ****ing awesome!!!!!! As for not wanting sex...well......Tren is never run alone without Test......You will have no sex drive at ALL........

I d no think bout it neway!

I have a very low libido!

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-22-2010, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by bigslick7878

I was semi joking but that is the first I have ever heard of weed being "estrogenic".

Yeah....

Weed is more estrogenic than booze, test n dbol !

it makes u chilled out n relaxed!

**covert025** · 02-22-2010, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by GREAKWESSNIPES

Yeah....

Weed is more estrogenic than booze, test n dbol !

it makes u chilled out n relaxed!

Very true. As for libido kill, maybe ita just me. But I am 4 weeks into cycle. About to finish up, still waking up with a hard on. Can't complain lol.

I would suggest a more intense PCT. Get some nolva or if you wan a use adex run clomid with it

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-23-2010, 06:40 AM

Originally Posted by covert025

Very true. As for libido kill, maybe ita just me. But I am 4 weeks into cycle. About to finish up, still waking up with a hard on. Can't complain lol.

I would suggest a more intense PCT. Get some nolva or if you wan a use adex run clomid with it

Bruv.

Thanks....

I read somewhere that AIs and SERMs do not agree with each other!

I am not sure bout steroidal AIs and natural SERMs though!

Is ar-r the best place to get AIs and SERMs from?
So tren .... has not affected your sex drive.....

SWEET!

**covert025** · 02-25-2010, 08:18 PM

Adex is ok with clomid.. With nolva, you can run it but nolva makes it less efficient, so its much better not to.

I was running Adex on cycle, I have a feeling it might have helped my sex drive a bit because of the natural test increase from the AI. But, hard to say. I can't pin point it. But the general consensus is that Tren kills libido so be prepared.

**GREAKWESSNIPES** · 02-26-2010, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by covert025

Adex is ok with clomid.. With nolva, you can run it but nolva makes it less efficient, so its much better not to.

I was running Adex on cycle, I have a feeling it might have helped my sex drive a bit because of the natural test increase from the AI. But, hard to say. I can't pin point it. But the general consensus is that Tren kills libido so be prepared.

Bro.

Do not worry bout my sex drive....

I do not think I have much of 1 neway!

The girls I like are in different cities or abroad!

I have no reason to think bout doin it at the mo because I am concentration on fitness n muscle!