Best Post Workout Supp?

**ir0nbear** · 04-03-2010, 11:54 PM

I was wondering what your guys opinion on a good post workout supplement would be?

**Kibble** · 04-04-2010, 03:16 AM

Whey Protein
5g Creatine Monohydrate

**Nooomoto** · 04-04-2010, 03:24 PM

Protein.

**IM708** · 04-05-2010, 11:21 AM

BCAAs intra, whey iso + cm 1/2 hour later.

**Swifto** · 04-05-2010, 01:04 PM

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
5g Creatine Mono
5g Beta-Alanine
1g VitC
3g Ome ga-3.

(My + clients PWO shake)

OR 50/50% mix of Whey and Casein.

**jl39** · 04-05-2010, 03:07 PM

i like using cell tech then protein 15-30 minutes later

**JasonT** · 04-05-2010, 03:10 PM

16 oz. chicken breast + sweet potato

**nothingtoitbuttodoit** · 04-09-2010, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by Swifto

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
5g Creatine Mono
5g Beta-Alanine
1g VitC
3g Ome ga-3.

(My + clients PWO shake)

OR 50/50% mix of Whey and Casein.

is it more beneficial to have whey and casein pwo even if eating a meal 1 hour later?

also your pwo shake sounds good but must taste awful, any reason why glutamine is not included?

**DarnGoodLookin** · 04-09-2010, 09:20 AM

oreos

**Swifto** · 04-09-2010, 11:43 AM

Originally Posted by nothingtoitbuttodoit

is it more beneficial to have whey and casein pwo even if eating a meal 1 hour later?

also your pwo shake sounds good but must taste awful, any reason why glutamine is not included?

You should get something quick into the blood PWO, such as BCAA's IMHO.

Milk protein isolate is better than whey alone. Thats whay Lyle reccommends, I posted why in another thread.

Train, have your shake immediately, then eat 30mins later. Thats what I do.

**nothingtoitbuttodoit** · 04-09-2010, 12:08 PM

alright so a shake consisting of

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
10g glutamine

would be better than a whey/casein shake PWO

cheers, i was just wondering because i had just read Pinnacle's thread stating that whey was no good.

**Swifto** · 04-09-2010, 02:08 PM

Originally Posted by nothingtoitbuttodoit

alright so a shake consisting of

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
10g glutamine

would be better than a whey/casein shake PWO

cheers, i was just wondering because i had just read Pinnacle's thread stating that whey was no good.

No glutamine. I dont think glutamine does much, apart from aid in immune system function/response.

10g BCAA
10g Leucine

is the back bone of my pre-PWO shake.

Then I cycle 5-10g creatine mono, beta-alanine, citrulline malate.

**Swifto** · 04-09-2010, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by nothingtoitbuttodoit

alright so a shake consisting of

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
10g glutamine

would be better than a whey/casein shake PWO

cheers, i was just wondering because i had just read Pinnacle's thread stating that whey was no good.

Whey is too fast for its own good. Milk protein isolate (whey/casein) is better than either alone IMHO.

**nothingtoitbuttodoit** · 04-10-2010, 07:04 AM

alright cheers.

i think ill add

10g BCAA
10g Leucine

to my pwo shake (of whey/casein) because taking bcaa and leucine alone would taste rank

**POPS** · 04-11-2010, 08:29 AM

whey protein and either oats or fish oil depending on your goals then 30-45 min later continue with your meals.....

jmo...

**M302_Imola** · 04-11-2010, 03:54 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

10g BCAA's
10g Leucine
5g Creatine Mono
5g Beta-Alanine
1g VitC
3g Ome ga-3.

(My + clients PWO shake)

OR 50/50% mix of Whey and Casein.

Looks good but wouldn't some oats be beneficial or do you have carbs in your ppwo meal? Also, that's a hefty dose of beta alanine, is 5g really needed or could you get away w/ 2-3g? I take 2g of beta alanine pre workout and pwo...just wondering if I'm taking enough?

**Machdiesel** · 04-11-2010, 04:10 PM

I think any one of the major weight gainers(cyto,monster mass,real mass) with an added 5 grams of Creatine mono is a pretty good choice for most people. Its easy, taste good enough, and gets the job done.

**Swifto** · 04-12-2010, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Looks good but wouldn't some oats be beneficial or do you have carbs in your ppwo meal? Also, that's a hefty dose of beta alanine, is 5g really needed or could you get away w/ 2-3g? I take 2g of beta alanine pre workout and pwo...just wondering if I'm taking enough?

Yeah, I also add oats or a bannana, depending on what I'm doing (bulking/cutting) or time of day.

With oats, thats my AM shake.

5g is what I have always taken of BA. To be honest, I dont like the tingly feeling it gives me. Some use 5-10g BA. 3-5g is enough for me.

Your on 4g, give or take a gram, thats fine IMHO.

**rickrick55** · 04-12-2010, 07:24 PM

2:1:1 Recovery..i forget who makes it, but stuff works well..

**M302_Imola** · 04-12-2010, 07:57 PM

Originally Posted by Swifto

Yeah, I also add oats or a bannana, depending on what I'm doing (bulking/cutting) or time of day.

With oats, thats my AM shake.

5g is what I have always taken of BA. To be honest, I dont like the tingly feeling it gives me. Some use 5-10g BA. 3-5g is enough for me.

Your on 4g, give or take a gram, thats fine IMHO.

Thank you sir!

I have one more question for you if you don't mind. I have been taking vit c 2g in the morn, 1g pre workout, and 3g pwo I have also been taking 2 lipo 6 fatburner pills in the morn. Do you think I am suppressing to much cortisol? I thought I read that suppressing to much cortisol is bad.

**yesimussing** · 04-13-2010, 01:33 PM

Too much cortisol is bad as it is too little. I dont like going over 4g of vit-c even when on Pct. You need cortisol to help with inflamation and other important bodily functions. Suppressed cortisol for long periods of time can lead to Addisson's Disease. Swifto should be able to help more on this aspect as he's a big advocate of vit-c for cortisol suppression. I've actually learned a lot from him and to this day he's always been on cue when it comes to suggestions and recomendation. He might take a while to replay. Prob still getting over the hangover seeing how ManU went 0-0 yesterday. Lol. Jk.

**Swifto** · 04-14-2010, 04:05 AM

Originally Posted by M302_Imola

Thank you sir!

I have one more question for you if you don't mind. I have been taking vit c 2g in the morn, 1g pre workout, and 3g pwo I have also been taking 2 lipo 6 fatburner pills in the morn. Do you think I am suppressing to much cortisol? I thought I read that suppressing to much cortisol is bad.

It can be, yes. Cortisol is very important for thyroid function. Its also used for gluconeogenesis, immune response, anti-inflamitory actions, blood pressure, CNS activation and heart/blood vessel tone contraction. Without it, you wouldnt be alive.

I dont know about the supps. your taking and their effects on cortisol.

6g/ED is a little on the large size IMHO.

1g in the AM, 1g pre-WO, 1-2g's PWO is what I do.

**M302_Imola** · 04-16-2010, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by yesimussing

Too much cortisol is bad as it is too little. I dont like going over 4g of vit-c even when on Pct. You need cortisol to help with inflamation and other important bodily functions. Suppressed cortisol for long periods of time can lead to Addisson's Disease. Swifto should be able to help more on this aspect as he's a big advocate of vit-c for cortisol suppression. I've actually learned a lot from him and to this day he's always been on cue when it comes to suggestions and recomendation. He might take a while to replay. Prob still getting over the hangover seeing how ManU went 0-0 yesterday. Lol. Jk.

Thank you for that insight, I found it really helpful. Yeah Swifto is the man...he has a wealth of knowledge. I learn something from about everyone of his posts.

Originally Posted by Swifto

It can be, yes. Cortisol is very important for thyroid function. Its also used for gluconeogenesis, immune response, anti-inflamitory actions, blood pressure, CNS activation and heart/blood vessel tone contraction. Without it, you wouldnt be alive.

I dont know about the supps. your taking and their effects on cortisol.

6g/ED is a little on the large size IMHO.

1g in the AM, 1g pre-WO, 1-2g's PWO is what I do.

I will cut the vit c back...I guess I never cut it back after this past PCT so I'm sure I was overduing it. Thanks for the help!