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    Leucime before cardio???

    I currently do fasted cardio upon waking and the only amino's i take are 21g of bcaa's.....
    Should I add leucine and or glutamine

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    Strictly speaking, that isn't fasted cardio.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black
    Strictly speaking, that isn't fasted cardio.
    Ya but it won't effect my hgh or bf loss right???.....

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    Leucine is fine. I would only take glutamine at night.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite
    Leucine is fine. I would only take glutamine at night.
    Why is that??? How much would you take?? Also right before bed??

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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Why is that??? How much would you take?? Also right before bed??
    It can cause drowsiness. So while you're pumped and lifting/running... your workout might actually be lacking from it's relaxing effects. Take 1.5 grams to 2 grams before bed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    I currently do fasted cardio upon waking and the only amino's i take are 21g of bcaa's.....
    Should I add leucine and or glutamine
    Leucine is already a BCAA.

    21gr is way too much for one serving anyways.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    Leucine is already a BCAA.

    21gr is way too much for one serving anyways.
    Took the words right out of my mouth. In fact you should just drop the other two amino's (valine and isoleucine) and strictly supplement with Leucine. It has the most impact on mTOR and I've read a few studies that say the 3 BCAA's will actually compete for absorption. Not looking for a debate here just telling you what's worked for me...much more pleased since I've switched to just straight leucine supplementation. I normally mix 5g leucine with about 50 oz. water before my morning fasted (I use this word looslely) cardio. IMO, helps preserve some muscle while shedding the fat.

    Note: I sip on a mix of 10-15g glutamine and 10g leucine during my workout as I feel it keeps me anti-catabolic during an intense workout.
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    So imola you think that there isn't a benefit to taking all three bcaas? Or is there just no benefit in this situation cuz I take bcaas before bed

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer

    Leucine is already a BCAA.

    21gr is way too much for one serving anyways.
    Why is 21g's too much??

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93 View Post
    So imola you think that there isn't a benefit to taking all three bcaas? Or is there just no benefit in this situation cuz I take bcaas before bed
    Yeah I no longer waste my money on BCAA's, straight L-leucine for me. It's cheaper and the only downside is it taste like shit...normally doctor up the taste with a squirt of Mio (flavored water enhancer). I've also seen studies that ingesting around 5g of Leucine before a whole protein meal has an increased amino acid uptake effect...essentially the leucine helps the body make more use out of the protein you ingest 10 mins after. You don't want to ingest the leucine at the same time as the protein due to absorption competition.

    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Why is 21g's too much??
    With ingesting such a large amount your body will most likely just piss out the excess (waste of product and money) and the body can also become desensitized with such a large amount being consumed at one time. Personally I see no need in going over 10g BCAA's...I believe this is the dose that's recommended with USP Labs Modern BCAA's.

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    Awesome info, thanks.

    When do you take it? Before bed and before meals?

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    Quote Originally Posted by M302_Imola View Post
    With ingesting such a large amount your body will most likely just piss out the excess (waste of product and money) and the body can also become desensitized with such a large amount being consumed at one time. Personally I see no need in going over 10g BCAA's...I believe this is the dose that's recommended with USP Labs Modern BCAA's.
    Bingo!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armykid93 View Post
    Awesome info, thanks.

    When do you take it? Before bed and before meals?
    I don't see much of a point in taking it before bed, it may even cause sleeping issues with some people.

    PWO and before meals makes the most sense.

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    Ok so is if better to take bcaa's before cardio or just lucine??? And at what doses???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Turkish Juicer View Post
    I don't see much of a point in taking it before bed, it may even cause sleeping issues with some people.

    PWO and before meals makes the most sense.
    Agreed...before some meals (don't use every meal or desensitization can occur). I also like to use it pwo 10 mins before my protein shake.

    Quote Originally Posted by human project View Post
    Ok so is if better to take bcaa's before cardio or just lucine??? And at what doses???
    Just saw pics of your veiny ass...you're way bigger than me so you tell me! lol jk I sip on 5g of leucine (in water) during morning fasted cardio as I believe it helps me spare muslce tissue.

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