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01-20-2019, 01:06 AM #401
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01-20-2019, 07:45 AM #403Banned- for my own actions
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01-20-2019, 09:04 AM #404
Tren for a year with random compounds rotated through works somewhat.
Who has a year though
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01-20-2019, 09:09 AM #405BANNED
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well I was thinking about lowering my dose of test big time, like 100mg a week, but then running 15mg a day of tren ace with it and using that combo as my TRT. so may end up being year round .
of course I say that , but I don't really think I'd be on a "trt" dose of anything longer then a few weeks
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01-20-2019, 09:24 AM #406
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01-20-2019, 10:05 AM #407Banned
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01-20-2019, 11:39 AM #408
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01-20-2019, 12:14 PM #410Banned
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01-20-2019, 04:06 PM #411Associate Member
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Considering where you are currently and what you mentioned about the classic physique 197 class it’s a really tough call. While I get the bulk now mentality to gain the shear mass/volume the issue really comes down to how severe your shoulder issue is. While bulking now and focusing on the lowerbody (to allow shoulder to heal) seams logical there is something to consider proportion wise. How much work (bulking) do you want to gain on the wheels. Cause if your not really wanting the mass down there it’s hard to be truly into it (dedicated). Furthermore could adding more to lower body detract from overall proportions you are going for?
Either way you ultimately decide I would likely only swing 5-7 lbs and reassess things (especially if your shoulder is feeling better). Maybe run genuinely low doses (heard that once on forum from really knowledgeable guy, let receptors reset so to speak, lol). Sometimes just coasting is not such a bad thing especially when working around something. I know that’s not the mentality most here would prescribe to but it’s a journey not an Uber ride.
You didn’t elaborate how bad your shoulder is? Have you dealt with similar before? About how long to be fairly good?Last edited by balance; 01-20-2019 at 04:09 PM.
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01-20-2019, 06:50 PM #412BANNED
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well I could probably add a good inch or more to these calves of mine
and my quads are under sized due to my 4 back surgeries and the screws, rods, etc. holding my lower back together from the hip bones up. Haven't been able to squat in years. but I'll figure out something to make them grow. unless I just did a men's physique show and wear the board shorts and cover them up
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01-20-2019, 06:56 PM #413BANNED
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I have not trained in 2 weeks. tomorrow will be my first day back at it since the stomach flu and shoulder injury. so we'll see how it feels. its still fairly jacked up and painful, but I've worked around pain before. I'll just need to see if I can push through enough to at least get a ok chest pump/session done. shoulder will effect chest movements the most
also part of the reason I thought about cutting was just simply because with the shoulder I know I won't be able to push heavy weight and intensity and that will make it hard to progressively overload and grow. with a cut I'll just try to maintain what I have and stick to higher rep sets
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01-20-2019, 06:57 PM #414
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01-20-2019, 06:59 PM #415
Gd gh...
My calves look like a long distance runners without a pump. You are in the top .1 %
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01-20-2019, 07:02 PM #416BANNED
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01-20-2019, 07:05 PM #417
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01-20-2019, 07:49 PM #418
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01-20-2019, 07:52 PM #419
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01-20-2019, 08:08 PM #420
Ok, so what I figure. Cycle till I'm 70 and I can look like GH and Obs. Oh yea thats right you can't look like that when you're 70. Damn I'm SOL!
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01-20-2019, 08:08 PM #421BANNED
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blew it out years back lifting a heavy ass compressor out of my truck. the surgery then fixed me up for a little while.
then blew out a few discs doing heavy barbell shrugs setting the weight back into the rack.
then golf (yes fucking golf). IF you bench over 300 pounds, run drugs that make you strong as hell like Tren , and drive a golf ball 400 yards with an extremely aggressive and angry and violent golf swing,, you probably shouldn't even be playing golf. its really not a juice heads game.
so yeah, I blew the hell out of my back playing golf.
then shortly after that third surgery I rolled over in my sleep one night and two discs that were operated on basically blew apart into my spine. That become an emergency surgery situation and they basically just cut everything out of the lower back and put me together from the hip up a ways with 6 construction sized screws, a couple of rods, 6 lug nuts, some artificial bones as spacers, and a cage around my spine.
still recovering from this last surgery . but my last doc visit and X-rays showed I was about 80% there. so just hope that all that hardware holds up
I don't deadlift anymore though.. as I fear having a 6" long screw fly out of my lower back while heaving up the weight
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01-20-2019, 08:10 PM #422
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01-20-2019, 08:11 PM #423
Dumbass with big calves
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01-20-2019, 08:17 PM #424
I am laughing till I choke,drunk as shit
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01-20-2019, 08:50 PM #425
Sorry to hear all this happened to you bro .
Sadly tragic accidents happen during the most silly of things .
People can get hit by a car and break a leg yet a dude can trip on a tree branch of ultimately lose his life.
I hate to sound like a pussy but it's another reason I stay away from heavy heavy weights. So much room for injury.
Like you said in another thread volume and tension with your muscle is your bread and butter. Heavy isn't always what puts in gains .
Glad you are doing better though bro
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01-20-2019, 08:51 PM #426
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01-20-2019, 09:02 PM #427BANNED
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this is true. heck in between these back surgeries a few years ago when I was doing ok and getting back on track I had a freak accident involving a knife and the tendons in my hand got sliced and ended up unraveling down into my palm and wrist. had to have an emergency reconstructive hand surgery that left me in a cast and sling for months and then months worth of therapy . lots of time lost out of the gym AGAIN.
thats been my luck the last few years. heck if it wasn't for all these set backs time and time again, I'd be giving Big Ramy a run for his money right about now well, maybe I'd just be about 20 pounds more muscular idk lol
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01-20-2019, 09:24 PM #428
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01-21-2019, 09:34 AM #429
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01-21-2019, 02:31 PM #434BANNED
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so heres the plan . I don't know why I even considered cutting. I really need a lot more muscle (shit I'm still trying to get muscle back I lost from all my surgeries the last couple years), and other then a short mini cut, doing an actual focused cut will really do nothing for my goal of putting on more size overall.
So.. during my cruise phase, being off cycle right now. and with my shoulder issue. I'm going to run a bunch of insulin (every couple hours), some HGH (or combo that with GH and peptides), and some IGF1. the goal here will be to consume a shit ton of carbs and mainly do a lot of high volume 20 rep type sets in the gym.
I'll just see if I can grow using light weights, but using a lot of blood, water, and glycogen to pump up and fill out the muscle. this will give my body a break from the elevated Androgens and Estrogen, but still hopefully help me grow some.
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01-21-2019, 11:05 PM #435BANNED
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what the diet is going to look like right now
meal 1 - whey isolate, milk, 2 slices potato bread
50g protein 50g carbs, 5g fat
meal 2 - 4 whole eggs, half cup egg whites, 4 oz ground beef, cup rice or cream of rice
70g protein , 45g carbs, 25g fat
meal 3 - 7 oz steak or fish, 2 cups rice, cup veggies
50g protein , 100g carbs , 50g or 10g fat depending
meal 4 - intra workout -
50g carbs, 15g amino
meal 5 - Whey isolate , milk , 2 pop tarts
50g protein, 80g carbs , 15g fat
meal 6 - 10oz chicken, 1.5 cup rice, 1 cup veggies
70g protein, 70g carbs, 15g fat
340g protein , 370g carbs, 70-110g fat
roughly 3,700 cals
cheat meal - estimate 4 per week at 600-800cal each
will run roughly 40iu of insulin with this and 50mcg per day of IGF. the 370g of carbs and high protein will cover that no probLast edited by GearHeaded; 01-21-2019 at 11:10 PM.
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01-23-2019, 12:21 PM #436BANNED
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so heres what the drugs have now settled into
TRT/cruise - 300mg Primo - 150mg Test
IGF - 50mcg per day
Insulin 25-40iu per day
MK677 25mg per day
Clenbuterol 40mcg per day
T3 25mcg per day
No I'm not cutting. I'm using these for other purposes.
more HGH and T4 will be on the way at some point
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01-23-2019, 05:58 PM #437
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01-23-2019, 09:55 PM #439BANNED
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Alright, so guys I'm already thinking ahead here to what my next ON CYCLE EXPERIMENT is going to be once I come off this cruise.
my thought is to do a 5 week long recomp phase
I already mentioned that I'm going to be running Stenbolone once I get back on . so Stenbolone will be my main mover (however, how can I not resist stacking it)
Stenbolone 600mg per week
Per day
Anadrol 50
Superdrol 20
Tren A 30
DNP 200mg
Test will be at TRT or less
heck, have you ever seen me think about doing such a low dose cycle . thats only a total of like 1400mg of AAS per week.
such a conservative little run it will be
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01-23-2019, 10:04 PM #440
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