HoldMyBeer bruh

**balance** · 12-16-2018, 01:27 PM

I saw your posted different macro plans above but was wondering what kind of meals are you eating? What are some of your staple proteins, carbs, fats? How often are you eating meals you didn’t prep (eating out)?

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-16-2018, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli

Why thursday?

Just have a lot of personal stuff going on. Need to be functional until then

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-16-2018, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by balance

I saw your posted different macro plans above but was wondering what kind of meals are you eating? What are some of your staple proteins, carbs, fats? How often are you eating meals you didn’t prep (eating out)?

Currently, because of DNP , I am eating more simple carbs (faster carbs = less time burning up sweating my balls off)
Current meal plan as it is more satiating:
-Non fat Greek yogurt, blueberries
-2 eggs, 5 egg whites, bagel post (w a little smart balance lite to keep the fat down)
-2 slices white bread, 2 servings tuna (lite miracle whip), baby spinach, pickles
-2 slices white bread, 5oz turkey, baby spinach, pickles, mustard
-2 servings pasta, 6 oz chicken breast, 2 servings broccoli
-6 oz chicken, 2 servings broccoli

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**GearHeaded** · 12-16-2018, 03:46 PM

just my thought and opinion here.. but when running DNP you would be better of 'backloading' your carbs until post workout only and taking them in with exogenous insulin . that way you can actually utilize them to help fill muscle glycogen stores, rather then burning them off as heat throughout the day.

example.
if your diet calls for 100g of carbs for the day. then take all 100g of those carbs in your post workout meal with 10iu of insulin.

while running DNP your beta cells in the pancreas have limited to no ability to produce insulin. when you consume carbs with every meal throughout the day your blood sugar just keeps rising. The DNP is making you throw off 'heat' as the primary way of utilizing these carbs.

by taking in exogenous insulin post workout when Glut 4 levels are high , your going to be able to drive these carbs, amino acids, water, creatine, etc.. into muscle cells. instead of just burning them up as heat all day.

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-17-2018, 06:08 AM

Originally Posted by GearHeaded

just my thought and opinion here.. but when running DNP you would be better of 'backloading' your carbs until post workout only and taking them in with exogenous insulin . that way you can actually utilize them to help fill muscle glycogen stores, rather then burning them off as heat throughout the day.

example.
if your diet calls for 100g of carbs for the day. then take all 100g of those carbs in your post workout meal with 10iu of insulin.

while running DNP your beta cells in the pancreas have limited to no ability to produce insulin. when you consume carbs with every meal throughout the day your blood sugar just keeps rising. The DNP is making you throw off 'heat' as the primary way of utilizing these carbs.

by taking in exogenous insulin post workout when Glut 4 levels are high , your going to be able to drive these carbs, amino acids, water, creatine, etc.. into muscle cells. instead of just burning them up as heat all day.

So I would assume I want a fast actng insulin
Suggestions on which one?

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**GearHeaded** · 12-17-2018, 09:17 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

So I would assume I want a fast actng insulin
Suggestions on which one?

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a fast acting or a regular acting insulin will both do the job.. purchasing 'regular' acting insulin like Novalin R is generally easier then purchasing fast acting insulin like humalog, as the novalin r doesn't require a prescription and can be purchased over the counter at Walmart (in most states).
but with the internet obviously they are both fairly available like anything else

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-19-2018, 05:19 PM

No progress the past few days. Dialing it up.
https://ytcropper.com/cropped/Hp5c1ad19e5873f

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-21-2018, 06:21 AM

197.6, so I'm starting to make progress again.
Just cranked everything up yesterday so I expect the progress to continue from here on out (minus Monday/Tuesday, obviously have family stuff, need to be a functioning human being)

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-22-2018, 06:01 AM

194.4 this morning. Been sweating buckets , probably a lot of water weight.
I'm going to crush that fucking goal. Just need to double up on the ECA stack this morning because I didn't sleep at all last night. And we're not going to let that get in the way of moving some weights around now are we?!
Christmas Eve in a couple days. That's exciting. Love seeing family, can't wait

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**Obs** · 12-22-2018, 06:04 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

194.4 this morning. Been sweating buckets , probably a lot of water weight.
I'm going to crush that fucking goal. Just need to double up on the ECA stack this morning because I didn't sleep at all last night

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Damn!
You are gonna crush that goal! Careful with the eca!
Aside from dehydration it can cause heart attack and stroke in a healthy guy

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-23-2018, 07:11 AM

192.4 this morning.
I need to ease it up the next couple days, I need to be a functioning human being for family stuff.
I expect to add about 6-7 lbs (mostly water weight) during that time. By next Sunday that should be gone and I hope to have cracked 190.
I am currently leaner than I have been ... In over a decade. I find it very hard for me to lose fat, where putting on muscle is easy (for me).

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**charger69** · 12-23-2018, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

Damn!
You are gonna crush that goal! Careful with the eca!
Aside from dehydration it can cause heart attack and stroke in a healthy guy

You are one to talk on the ECA!

Well then, if HMB is not healthy, then there is nothing to worry about! LOL

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**Obs** · 12-23-2018, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

You are one to talk on the ECA!

Well then, if HMB is not healthy, then there is nothing to worry about! LOL

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I am specialthough
I have done it for... 15 years?
I know how much I can take and everything not to mix ot with.

**Obs** · 12-23-2018, 01:54 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

192.4 this morning.
I need to ease it up the next couple days, I need to be a functioning human being for family stuff.
I expect to add about 6-7 lbs (mostly water weight) during that time. By next Sunday that should be gone and I hope to have cracked 190.
I am currently leaner than I have been ... In over a decade. I find it very hard for me to lose fat, where putting on muscle is easy (for me).

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Damn good progress!

**Proximal** · 12-23-2018, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

192.4 this morning.
I need to ease it up the next couple days, I need to be a functioning human being for family stuff.
I expect to add about 6-7 lbs (mostly water weight) during that time. By next Sunday that should be gone and I hope to have cracked 190.
I am currently leaner than I have been ... In over a decade. I find it very hard for me to lose fat, where putting on muscle is easy (for me).

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Congrats on the progress dude!

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-23-2018, 03:52 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

I am specialthough
I have done it for... 15 years?
I know how much I can take and everything not to mix ot with.

That ECA stack was a good suggestion. Really helps curb the apatite (which was my biggest issue, no matter how I tried to structure my diet, always hungry). Thank you.

**Obs** · 12-23-2018, 07:16 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

That ECA stack was a good suggestion. Really helps curb the apatite (which was my biggest issue, no matter how I tried to structure my diet, always hungry). Thank you.

No prob.
Dont run it too long.
They say it is not habit forming but they are stupid.
It is a next level stimulant and all stimulants can be habit forming. I feel like hammered shit for a few days when I cease it.

**Obs** · 12-23-2018, 07:28 PM

You should love a good dose with a bunch of caffeine preworkout.
Trick is to drink a monster or redbull, wait 30 minutes and dose your Epedrine. Then drink another redbull or monster gradually.

The energy drinks contain a high inorganic acid content. This will raise your urine Ph levels and extend the half life of the drug by up to double.
You will get full kick all day.

If you time it right when you go to piss after the second drink, your hair will stand on end and tingle.

Even though it is a vasoconstrictor you will get the most God awful pump from it imaginable during workout.

**charger69** · 12-23-2018, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

You should love a good dose with a bunch of caffeine preworkout.
Trick is to drink a monster or redbull, wait 30 minutes and dose your Epedrine. Then drink another redbull or monster gradually.

The energy drinks contain a high inorganic acid content. This will raise your urine Ph levels and extend the half life of the drug by up to double.
You will get full kick all day.

If you time it right when you go to piss after the second drink, your hair will stand on end and tingle.

Even though it is a vasoconstrictor you will get the most God awful pump from it imaginable during workout.

Just remember Obs advice is advice from the devil. LOL

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**SocioMachiavelli** · 12-23-2018, 09:13 PM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

192.4 this morning.
I need to ease it up the next couple days, I need to be a functioning human being for family stuff.
I expect to add about 6-7 lbs (mostly water weight) during that time. By next Sunday that should be gone and I hope to have cracked 190.
I am currently leaner than I have been ... In over a decade. I find it very hard for me to lose fat, where putting on muscle is easy (for me).

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Keep at it brother!

**Obs** · 12-23-2018, 09:17 PM

Originally Posted by charger69

Just remember Obs advice is advice from the devil. LOL

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This is because of my DNA.
I grew up in the 417 area code.
Everyone born there instinctively has the ability to concentrate eped into meth within 15 minutes of being born.

**charger69** · 12-23-2018, 09:18 PM

Originally Posted by Obs

This is because of my DNA.
I grew up in the 417 area code.
Everyone born there instinctively has the ability to concentrate eped into meth within 15 minutes of being born.

LMAO!!

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-24-2018, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

You should love a good dose with a bunch of caffeine preworkout.
Trick is to drink a monster or redbull, wait 30 minutes and dose your Epedrine. Then drink another redbull or monster gradually.

The energy drinks contain a high inorganic acid content. This will raise your urine Ph levels and extend the half life of the drug by up to double.
You will get full kick all day.

If you time it right when you go to piss after the second drink, your hair will stand on end and tingle.

Even though it is a vasoconstrictor you will get the most God awful pump from it imaginable during workout.

See I've been doing it wrong! I've been doing the ECA when I wake up, then a half hour later pre-jym. Shoulda consulted the guru first!

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-24-2018, 06:15 AM

Time to see what madness is goin on at the local gym.

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-26-2018, 07:38 AM

So Sunday, 192.4
Then I ate whatever TF I wanted Monday and Tuesday.
This morning: 208.4

Got a little bit of work ahead of me....

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**SocioMachiavelli** · 12-26-2018, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

So Sunday, 192.4
Then I ate whatever TF I wanted Monday and Tuesday.
This morning: 208.4

Got a little bit of work ahead of me....

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The fuck did you eat lol?

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-26-2018, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli

The fuck did you eat lol?

Absolutely everything in site. It wasn't even enjoyable because I was so full I was nauseous for 2 days straight. I got a food problem.... it has to be 80% water weight. I'm not TOO worried. We will see over the next few days. Kinda pissed though, I was just starting to be able to see my ribs and upper abs before this

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**charger69** · 12-26-2018, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

Absolutely everything in site. It wasn't even enjoyable because I was so full I was nauseous for 2 days straight. I got a food problem.... it has to be 80% water weight. I'm not TOO worried. We will see over the next few days. Kinda pissed though, I was just starting to be able to see my ribs and upper abs before this

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The secret is to splurge in moderation.
I know you know this, but if you look at it as a diet, you will fail.
It needs to be a lifestyle change for you to stay lean and sexy....: well, not sexy for me, just the girls .... and Obs. LOL

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-26-2018, 09:03 AM

The gyms a fucking madhouse. These casuals need to get out of my way before I start throwing elbows
I respect wanting to better yourself and go to the gym. But these people are only here because they feel guilty about how much food they ate, and I won't see them again until new years

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**charger69** · 12-26-2018, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

The gyms a fucking madhouse. These casuals need to get out of my way before I start throwing elbows
I respect wanting to better yourself and go to the gym. But these people are only here because they feel guilty about how much food they ate, and I won't see them again until new years

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You just put this pissed off look on your face and put your earphones in. They will get out of your way!!

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-26-2018, 10:46 AM

Originally Posted by charger69

You just put this pissed off look on your face and put your earphones in. They will get out of your way!!

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Worked perfectly!

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-28-2018, 07:00 AM

208 -> 195.2
That's a lot of water weight gone in only a couple days. I'll be back at 192 in a couple more.
The gym died down very quickly, I'll see those assholes again Jan. 2
Time to see what some tren /sdrol base can do and crush some legs

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**HoldMyBeer** · 12-30-2018, 05:55 AM

192.2
I am getting very run down. Getting to the gym and through my workout is an absolute chore. Adding more stims doesn't help, just gives me a headache. I added a PWO inject hoping it would help salvage some level of intensity, but I don't notice anything.
I'm going to try a modest refeed tomorrow and lay off the stims, hopefully get a good night's sleep for once.

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**Obs** · 12-30-2018, 06:13 AM

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

192.2
I am getting very run down. Getting to the gym and through my workout is an absolute chore. Adding more stims doesn't help, just gives me a headache. I added a PWO inject hoping it would help salvage some level of intensity, but I don't notice anything.
I'm going to try a modest refeed tomorrow and lay off the stims, hopefully get a good night's sleep for once.

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Time the eca for the gym only.

**HoldMyBeer** · 12-30-2018, 06:56 AM

Originally Posted by Obs

Time the eca for the gym only.

My last dose is 2-3 pm, I need it for appetite suppression tho

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**HoldMyBeer** · 01-07-2019, 05:51 PM

I wrote a whole thing.... But fuck it.
I'll be available, but just not posting for a while. It doesn't look like I am going to hit my goal, and that is not sitting well with me. I need to reassess shit.
Later!

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**Old Duffer** · 01-07-2019, 06:04 PM

You been pushin Damn hard. No dishonor in a regroup.

BG · 01-07-2019, 06:30 PM

Take a little break and let your cns recover, your not doing any good by pushing through.

Originally Posted by HoldMyBeer

192.2
I am getting very run down. Getting to the gym and through my workout is an absolute chore. Adding more stims doesn't help, just gives me a headache. I added a PWO inject hoping it would help salvage some level of intensity, but I don't notice anything.
I'm going to try a modest refeed tomorrow and lay off the stims, hopefully get a good night's sleep for once.

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