Anyone have good back shockers

[needmorestrength]

Hey guys..
I used to get a nice sorness in my back after workouts.. I know it's not a factor of growth but it let's you know your training hard enough IMO. Does anyone have any good back shockers? My normal routine is this.
3 sets 8-10 lat pulldowns
3 sets 8-12 barbell rows
3 sets 8-10 seated rows narrow grip
3 sets 8-10 incline dumbell rows
3 sets of 8 dead lifts
every excercise gets a warm up set to get a pump and the blood flowing

any suggestions
Thanx

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

It looks like you have way too many sets in there.

To shock your back you may want to try some pull-ups, and tbar rows. Those always work for me.

On a side note how do you do those incline dbell rows? If it is anything like I think it is it sounds like it can give your back a good workout.

[needmorestrength]

15 sets dude? back muscle is the biggest of the body.. some people do 20+ and sometimes I do just to kill it ever couple months. For the inclines I usually set the best to the same incline for chest. I lie on it resting only my chest at the top of the bench.. make sure to get a good slow negative and a nice squeeze at the top.. check out www.abcbodybuilding.com and look in the back section

[needmorestrength]

ps got to start my lazy ars doin pull ups but its hard on my shoulder.. I should start on negative weight ones1

[Sir Lifts-a-lot]

Well for me 15 sets would be a lot. For me I keep it simple and just do something like 4 sets of pull ups of 6-10 reps, and 4 sets of tbars of 6-10 reps.

Also what are you trying to shock your back to do? width or thickness?

[needmorestrength]

im very thick I would like more width.. man 8 sets? dude maybe im overtraining but for me that would feel like undertraining.. imo of course

[radar1234]

try starting with deads first.
my routine goes something like this;
5 sets of deads(1 is a warmup set)
4 sets of bb rows
4 sets of db rows
i myself go for thickness and get great results.
as long as you do your sets with alot of intensity and good form you should yield good gains.
sometimes less is more.