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    chris66 is offline New Member
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    Critique - College student Training reg(workout + diet)

    Alright so first and foremost.. I *think* I have everything here to not get yelled at .
    So here it is.
    Current stats:
    Age 19
    Weight 77.5 kilo
    Height 177.8cm
    Daily Caloric Needs 3508cals
    Current BF% - 10.1%

    Overall Goals:
    I would like to add strength and size to my frame over the next 3 or so months, before starting a sport specific training regime in the summer months.

    My current everyday lifestyle involves school, training, work, and hockey. Im usually doing at least 3 of the 4 on a daily basis, so I upped my diet from 3508cals(bmr x 1.9) to about 3750. Also, every tuesday and thursday I have a fitness class in the mornings that consists of a 1.5mile run(timed) and about 45minutes of body weight exercises and plyometrics. Nothing to hard but worth noting.

    Here is the diet I have layed out. It is not the cleanest of diets, but, being in college and being as busy as i am I think at this point it will be the best I can do. My body has a very high metabolism, so im not worried about extra fat gains.. I can shred fat like cheese .

    All nutritional info was taken from nutritiondata.com or labels I currently have.

    Meal 1
    5 Whole Extra Large eggs (400 cal 35g pro/0 carb/30g fat)
    4 Slices whole wheat toast (340 cal 14g pro/64g carb/4g fat)
    Total - 740 cal 49g pro/64g carb/34g fat

    Meal 2
    2 Whole Wheat torilla wraps (340 cal 10g pro/54g carb/9g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    170g Lettuce (14 cals 2g pro/6g carb/0g fat)
    1 cup Salsa(100 cal 4g pro/20g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 800cal 58g pro/80g carb/29g fat

    Meal 3
    2 Whole Wheat torilla wraps (340 cal 10g pro/54g carb/9g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    170g Lettuce (14 cals 2g pro/6g carb/0g fat)
    1 cup Salsa(100 cal 4g pro/20g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 800cal 58g pro/80g carb/29g fat

    Meal 4
    100g Whole wheat pasta (348 cal 15g pro/75g carb/1g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    1/2 cup Tomatoe sauce (29cal 1g pro/7g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 699cal 54g pro/82g carb/21g fat

    Meal 5
    3 Rice cakes (105cal 3g pro/21g carb/1.2g fat
    2 tbsp PB (180cal 6g pro/8g carb/16g fat)
    100g Frozen Vegetables (64cal 3g pro/13g carb/1g fat)
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat)
    Total - 469cal 36g pro/45g carb/19.2g fat

    Pre Workout
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat)

    Post Workout
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat)

    Daily Totals
    3748cal 303 pro/357 carb/134.2g fat
    38.15%/44.95%/16.9%

    Now while its not the cleanest diet, I have chosen only *healthy* foods (whole weat, non processed), that I will be able to prepare for the day. My current school schedule has me starting class everyday at 10 or 1030 and ending anywhere from 130-530. I work week nights 5-9 when I can and weekends any time (7-7). I play hockey every wednesday and sunday nights, and whenever I have time between work school and training I hit up an outdoor rink.

    As for my training routine, I just completed my 5th week of a 4 day upper/lower split and dont feel my gains in that time were as good as they should be(quite possibly had to do with my diet), but either way I made up a new 4 day split(with a possible 5th) to try and hit the individual muscles a little more hard.

    Day1
    Chest
    Flat DB press 4x6
    Incline DB press 3x8
    SS/ with
    Flat DB flies 3x8
    Chest Dips 3x10
    *Ive noticed an imbalance in my left and right sides (right is weaker) so i plan to stay away from barbell exercises

    Day 2
    Back
    Chain saws 3x8
    Bent over DB flies 3x10
    Wide grip seated row 3x10
    Wide grip pull ups 3x8

    Day 3
    Shoulder/Tri
    Standing Military Press 4x6
    Side/front laterals (start on side finish in front and vise versa) 3x10
    Arnold Press 3x8
    Decline Skull's 3x8
    Supinated grip pull downs 3x8

    Day 4
    Legs/bi
    Squats 4x6
    DB curls 3x10
    Hanging ez bar concentration curls (back side of curl stand) 3x8
    Leg curls 3x8
    Barbell Lunges 3x8

    You'll notice i left out abs and calves, as I do them at the end of workouts(personal pref). As far as cardio, I do 25mins twice a week (ontop of the 1.5miles in class).

    One question I have is that i know both mentally and physically I would be fine adding in a 5th day on the split, but for my goals would it be worth it?
    Instead of doing a 1,2 off, 3,4,off, off split, I would do a 1,2,3,off,4,5,off which would give 1 extra workout day to each group over a 4week period.

    I think thats all. If you have any questions on any choices I made please say it! Im open to all suggestions.
    Last edited by chris66; 01-27-2010 at 02:31 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chris66 View Post
    Alright so first and foremost.. I *think* I have everything here to not get yelled at .
    So here it is.
    Current stats:
    Age 19
    Weight 77.5 kilo
    Height 177.8cm
    Daily Caloric Needs 3508cals
    Current BF% - 10.1%

    Overall Goals:
    I would like to add strength and size to my frame over the next 3 or so months, before starting a sport specific training regime in the summer months.

    My current everyday lifestyle involves school, training, work, and hockey. Im usually doing at least 3 of the 4 on a daily basis, so I upped my diet from 3508cals(bmr x 1.9) to about 3750. Also, every tuesday and thursday I have a fitness class in the mornings that consists of a 1.5mile run(timed) and about 45minutes of body weight exercises and plyometrics. Nothing to hard but worth noting.

    Here is the diet I have layed out. It is not the cleanest of diets, but, being in college and being as busy as i am I think at this point it will be the best I can do. My body has a very high metabolism, so im not worried about extra fat gains.. I can shred fat like cheese .

    All nutritional info was taken from nutritiondata.com or labels I currently have.

    Meal 1
    5 Whole Extra Large eggs (400 cal 35g pro/0 carb/30g fat)
    4 Slices whole wheat toast (340 cal 14g pro/64g carb/4g fat)
    Total - 740 cal 49g pro/64g carb/34g fat

    Meal 2
    2 Whole Wheat torilla wraps (340 cal 10g pro/54g carb/9g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    170g Lettuce (14 cals 2g pro/6g carb/0g fat)
    1 cup Salsa(100 cal 4g pro/20g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 800cal 58g pro/80g carb/29g fat

    Meal 3
    2 Whole Wheat torilla wraps (340 cal 10g pro/54g carb/9g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    170g Lettuce (14 cals 2g pro/6g carb/0g fat)
    1 cup Salsa(100 cal 4g pro/20g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 800cal 58g pro/80g carb/29g fat

    Meal 4
    100g Whole wheat pasta (348 cal 15g pro/75g carb/1g fat)
    1 Chicken breast (120 cals 24g pro/0g carb/1g fat)
    1/2 cup Tomatoe sauce (29cal 1g pro/7g carb/0g fat)
    2oz Cheddar cheese (226 cal 14g pro/0g carb/19g fat)
    Total - 699cal 54g pro/82g carb/21g fat

    Meal 5
    3 Rice cakes (105cal 3g pro/21g carb/1.2g fat
    2 tbsp PB (180cal 6g pro/8g carb/16g fat)
    100g Frozen Vegetables (64cal 3g pro/13g carb/1g fat)
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat)replace whey with real protein ie chicken, beef, fish
    Total - 469cal 36g pro/45g carb/19.2g fat

    Pre Workout
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat)once again avoid shakes real food here with complex carbs ie brown rice and chicken

    Post Workout
    1 scoop Whey (120 cal 24g pro/3g carb/1g fat) add a carb source after training to replace glycogen ie oats or fast gi dextrose, glucose, maltodextrin

    have a casein shake or cottage cheese before bed, slow digesting protein

    Daily Totals
    3748cal 303 pro/357 carb/134.2g fat
    38.15%/44.95%/16.9%

    Now while its not the cleanest diet, I have chosen only *healthy* foods (whole weat, non processed), that I will be able to prepare for the day. My current school schedule has me starting class everyday at 10 or 1030 and ending anywhere from 130-530. I work week nights 5-9 when I can and weekends any time (7-7). I play hockey every wednesday and sunday nights, and whenever I have time between work school and training I hit up an outdoor rink.

    As for my training routine, I just completed my 5th week of a 4 day upper/lower split and dont feel my gains in that time were as good as they should be(quite possibly had to do with my diet), but either way I made up a new 4 day split(with a possible 5th) to try and hit the individual muscles a little more hard.

    Day1
    Chest
    Flat DB press 4x6
    Incline DB press 3x8
    SS/ with
    Flat DB flies 3x8
    Chest Dips 3x10
    *Ive noticed an imbalance in my left and right sides (right is weaker) so i plan to stay away from barbell exercises

    Day 2
    Back
    Chain saws 3x8
    Bent over DB flies 3x10
    Wide grip seated row 3x10
    Wide grip pull ups 3x8

    hope theres a day off here

    Day 3
    Shoulder/Tri
    Standing Military Press 4x6
    Side/front laterals (start on side finish in front and vise versa) 3x10
    Arnold Press 3x8
    Decline Skull's 3x8
    Supinated grip pull downs 3x8

    Day 4
    Legs/bi
    Squats 4x6
    DB curls 3x10
    Hanging ez bar concentration curls (back side of curl stand) 3x8
    Leg curls 3x8
    Barbell Lunges 3x8

    hope theres a day off here

    You'll notice i left out abs and calves, as I do them at the end of workouts(personal pref). As far as cardio, I do 25mins twice a week (ontop of the 1.5miles in class).

    One question I have is that i know both mentally and physically I would be fine adding in a 5th day on the split, but for my goals would it be worth it?
    Instead of doing a 1,2 off, 3,4,off, off split, I would do a 1,2,3,off,4,5,off which would give 1 extra workout day to each group over a 4week period.

    depends if you want to work 5 days per wk. if you do train 1 body part a day

    I think thats all. If you have any questions on any choices I made please say it! Im open to all suggestions.
    bolds

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    chris66 is offline New Member
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    Maybe i'll start making some fish in the morning as well. One problem with making say a fish and rice mix for pre w/o, how long should i wait before starting my workout?

    Also, if i add cottage cheese before bed should i take a bit of cheese out of another meal or two? Adding in the rice pre w/o will give me an extra 100-200 cals + the cals from the cottage cheese would have me up around ~4200cals.. I know i said i dont mind the extra fat but thats about 700cals above my daily needed intake.

    And as for days off, i've been doing 2 on 1 off, 2 on 2 off(weekend). Adding in a fifth day would be 3 on 1 off, 2 on 1 off. My question was more or less would adding a 5th day be to much for the workload I already have. Like i posted, my main goal is to put on size so i dont know if the extra day would be beneficial or not.

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