How much should a person with the following stats be bench pressing?

[x_SANDMAN_x]

For someone who is 28, 6'4, 12% bf, has been lifting for over 10 years, has diet in check and is on the 8th week of his first cycle (week 1-4 dbol 35mg/day. Week 1-12 Test E 250x2/week)... What should his bench press be?

[gymnerd]

Bro thats immpossible to say BTW you left out your weight which is VERY important information.

[laduem88]

Bro thats immpossible to say BTW you left out your weight which is VERY important information.

lol might be the most important

[D7M]

For someone who is 28, 6'4, 12% bf, has been lifting for over 10 years, has diet in check and is on the 8th week of his first cycle (week 1-4 dbol 35mg/day. Week 1-12 Test E 250x2/week)... What should his bench press be?

discounting for the snow we just got,

he should be able to bench precisely 309.9871345 lbs for at least 6.54398 reps

[laduem88]

plus it all depends on that persons goals, if there bench sucks but they look like they can bench a lot then thats good if hes a bodybuilder...but if your a powerlifter then its all strength to weight....so its impossible to tell you....me myself look like i can bench a lot more than i can actually bench, bench has never been a strong point for me but my chest grows...deadlift is the best way to give someone an idea how strong they are

[graeme87]

If you can max 1.5 * bodyweight you're doing well

[gymnerd]

I have seen guys that look like they dont really train, benching in the mid 300's and big ass BB that cant bench 275 cause they dont train much on the flat bench. When I want to improve my bench I get on a powerlifting routine, and use only exercises that will get me big and strong and cut out all sissy crap.

Also work your technique learn how to make a solid base to bench from and how to use your legs. I see guys benching with there freikin legs in the air while they bench and then wonder why they dont have a big bench simple if you want a big bench learn how to train like the guys that have them/

[graeme87]

I have seen guys that look like they dont really train, benching in the mid 300's and big ass BB that cant bench 275 cause they dont train much on the flat bench. When I want to improve my bench I get on a powerlifting routine, and use only exercises that will get me big and strong and cut out all sissy crap.

Also work your technique learn how to make a solid base to bench from and how to use your legs. I see guys benching with there freikin legs in the air while they bench and then wonder why they dont have a big bench simple if you want a big bench learn how to train like the guys that have them/

Good info, head over to the powerlifting forum if you want to bench more.

[BJJ]

discounting for the snow we just got,

he should be able to bench precisely 309.9871345 lbs for at least 6.54398 reps

What about me man?

6'1, 210, 12,5, 36

[BJJ]

For someone who is 28, 6'4, 12% bf, has been lifting for over 10 years, has diet in check and is on the 8th week of his first cycle (week 1-4 dbol 35mg/day. Week 1-12 Test E 250x2/week)... What should his bench press be?

Somehow, the following I wrote a few weeks ago, should answer your question:

Anatomical factors are very important when talking about strength, considering the strength of the muscolar contractions which is different among human beings, especially among users natural and unnatural.
Such increase of vigour above all is due to a hypertrophy of the muscle, particularly of its crossbeam section (4-10 kg/Sq.cm, so 1,8-4,5 lbs/Sq.feet), even though from recent studies it seems that such increase of the muscular mass is not due only to a hypertrophy of the miofibrille, but also to a hyperplasia (increase of the cells).
Another importanti topic not to forget is the tendinous insertion, which we divide in proximal and distal respectively those that attach itself on the most static bony part and those that attach itself on the most flexible and motile bony part. The last mentioned ones can present some genetic differences between a subject and another, and this is an important factor in the expression of the strength or its potential ductility in a work-out.
To equality of lifted load, increasing the distance between the distal insertion and the fulcrum, one will need less strenght to lift the same load. So to equality of crossbeam section it will be stronger a muscle that presents the distal insertion more distant from the fulcrum lever.
Least but not last we have to talk about fibers percentage. Our muscles are constituted from two muscular types of fibers: the pale fibers (2a-2b) and the red fibers (type 1). This structural characterization is genetic predetermination and it seems not possible to be changed. The 2b are characterized from strong and swift contractions and are little resisting to the work prolonged in time; the fibers 1 are characterized from weaker and slow contractions but they are excellent resistant in a prolonged period of time. At last exist the intermediate fibers 2a which are a mix between the 2b and the 1. They seem to be the modifiable part of the fibers; trainings aimed on the force or speed seem to adapt these intermediate fibers to a very like function to that of the fibers 2b, vice versa trainings aimed on the resistance favor the adaptation in direction of those red of type 1. So, the muscular contraction strength is proportional to the percentage of fibers present 2b in the skeletal muscle.
Furthermore, we should not forget the important role of the nervous factors with intramuscular and intermuscular coordination plus the sensitivity of the Golgi organs (receptors located between muscle and tendon).
The discussion could continue on the principles of the training load, concept of load, individualization of load, alternation of load and progressiveness of load, but those are secondary factors.

[x_SANDMAN_x]

Bro thats immpossible to say BTW you left out your weight which is VERY important information.

my bad... 215lb

[x_SANDMAN_x]

Somehow, the following I wrote a few weeks ago, should answer your question:

Anatomical factors are very important when talking about strength, considering the strength of the muscolar contractions which is different among human beings, especially among users natural and unnatural.
Such increase of vigour above all is due to a hypertrophy of the muscle, particularly of its crossbeam section (4-10 kg/Sq.cm, so 1,8-4,5 lbs/Sq.feet), even though from recent studies it seems that such increase of the muscular mass is not due only to a hypertrophy of the miofibrille, but also to a hyperplasia (increase of the cells).
Another importanti topic not to forget is the tendinous insertion, which we divide in proximal and distal respectively those that attach itself on the most static bony part and those that attach itself on the most flexible and motile bony part. The last mentioned ones can present some genetic differences between a subject and another, and this is an important factor in the expression of the strength or its potential ductility in a work-out.
To equality of lifted load, increasing the distance between the distal insertion and the fulcrum, one will need less strenght to lift the same load. So to equality of crossbeam section it will be stronger a muscle that presents the distal insertion more distant from the fulcrum lever.
Least but not last we have to talk about fibers percentage. Our muscles are constituted from two muscular types of fibers: the pale fibers (2a-2b) and the red fibers (type 1). This structural characterization is genetic predetermination and it seems not possible to be changed. The 2b are characterized from strong and swift contractions and are little resisting to the work prolonged in time; the fibers 1 are characterized from weaker and slow contractions but they are excellent resistant in a prolonged period of time. At last exist the intermediate fibers 2a which are a mix between the 2b and the 1. They seem to be the modifiable part of the fibers; trainings aimed on the force or speed seem to adapt these intermediate fibers to a very like function to that of the fibers 2b, vice versa trainings aimed on the resistance favor the adaptation in direction of those red of type 1. So, the muscular contraction strength is proportional to the percentage of fibers present 2b in the skeletal muscle.
Furthermore, we should not forget the important role of the nervous factors with intramuscular and intermuscular coordination plus the sensitivity of the Golgi organs (receptors located between muscle and tendon).
The discussion could continue on the principles of the training load, concept of load, individualization of load, alternation of load and progressiveness of load, but those are secondary factors.

that sounds interesting... But i didnt understand any of it bro

[NVR2BIG1]

if you want a stronger/bigger chest then here is how

1- eat alot

2- take 1 day off for every day in the gym

3- work on your bench. By this I mean if your not satisfied with it then just go in there and do 3-4 sets of heavy bench instead of 3 sets x, 4 sets y, 3-4 sets z

[BJJ]

that sounds interesting... But i didnt understand any of it bro

I just wanted to show you that strength is genetics.
You can literally, destroy yourself in the gym, in order to improve it but you will be always weaker compared to one guy who trains less and perhaps is 20 lbs lighter, if he is genetically stronger.

Got it?

So, try to improve yours but do not expect to find a strength table for comparison.

[x_SANDMAN_x]

I just wanted to show you that strength is genetics.
You can literally, destroy yourself in the gym, in order to improve it but you will be always weaker compared to one guy who trains less and perhaps is 20 lbs lighter, if he is genetically stronger.

Got it?

So, try to improve yours but do not expect to find a strength table for comparison.

ah, got'cha! That sucks!

[x_SANDMAN_x]

Is there a way to change this genetic factor. Like increasing the number of cells. Does HGH achieve this?

[BJJ]

Is there a way to change this genetic factor. Like increasing the number of cells. Does HGH achieve this?

HGH is the only compound effective for hyperplasia.

[javerton]

It varies so much it's impossible to say. Some are incredibly strong for their weight, some weak. Some also have very light/heavy bone structures which will make their height much higher/lower. There are hundreds of variables. Not really constructive to dwell on these things..

[ranging1]

a good strong bench press is usually 1.5 times your bodyweight

for you thats just over 310 pounds

so you should be benching over that if you wanna be considering fairly strong