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    Decline bench

    Any benefits to keeping the decline bench in?
    I prefer flat, incline with dumbbells or barbells

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Any benefits to keeping the decline bench in?
    I prefer flat, incline with dumbbells or barbells

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    I get a better lower chest workout from decline than any other bench exercise

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Any benefits to keeping the decline bench in?
    I prefer flat, incline with dumbbells or barbells

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    The decline bench focuses on the bottom portion of the lower pecs. IMO it better serves a bodybuilder than a normal lifter. That is not to say that I wouldn’t recommend at some point in a routine for an athelete.
    I would take it out if that is what you want.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I get a better lower chest workout from decline than any other bench exercise
    You think decline can help change the chest? I used to train only powerlifting and strongman based training with tons of volume for my accessory work. Strongman training consisted of heavy carrying work like farmers, tires and sleds
    Would decline change the barrel chest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    The decline bench focuses on the bottom portion of the lower pecs. IMO it better serves a bodybuilder than a normal lifter. That is not to say that I wouldn’t recommend at some point in a routine for an athelete.
    I would take it out if that is what you want.


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    I have done declines before a while back but so far I have been sticking only to incline and flat for bench movements with some machine work similar to the bench press but they're machines

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    You think decline can help change the chest? I used to train only powerlifting and strongman based training with tons of volume for my accessory work. Strongman training consisted of heavy carrying work like farmers, tires and sleds
    Would decline change the barrel chest?

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    It will make you thicker at the bottom.

    Incines for upper flat for mid and decline for lower.
    Decline is my favorite bench exercise so go figure I dont have one at my gym.

    As far as the barrel chested thing do you mean just thicker in general or at the bottom only?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    It will make you thicker at the bottom.

    Incines for upper flat for mid and decline for lower.
    Decline is my favorite bench exercise so go figure I dont have one at my gym.

    As far as the barrel chested thing do you mean just thicker in general or at the bottom only?
    At the top. I dont train decline tbh since it's not used in powerlifting but im looking at changing my whole program. I have two weeks left on what I have been doing and a few days ago I decided I'm looking at more of a body building type of split for 4 days a week rather than my regular program I have been doing (its 5/3/1) if you have heard of it. I know this is mostly a bodybuilding forum

    Anyway lower chest isn't developed
    This picture should explain the barrel chest


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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    At the top. I dont train decline tbh since it's not used in powerlifting but im looking at changing my whole program. I have two weeks left on what I have been doing and a few days ago I decided I'm looking at more of a body building type of split for 4 days a week rather than my regular program I have been doing (its 5/3/1) if you have heard of it. I know this is mostly a bodybuilding forum

    Anyway lower chest isn't developed
    This picture should explain the barrel chest


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    Just throw more mass on it is all I can imagine.
    Yes I think deline would make someone with that type of frame look enormous. Lower chest exercises
    Give you the overhang off your rib cage making you appear wider and thicker. Pullovers are supposed to help as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    At the top. I dont train decline tbh since it's not used in powerlifting but im looking at changing my whole program. I have two weeks left on what I have been doing and a few days ago I decided I'm looking at more of a body building type of split for 4 days a week rather than my regular program I have been doing (its 5/3/1) if you have heard of it. I know this is mostly a bodybuilding forum

    Anyway lower chest isn't developed
    This picture should explain the barrel chest


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    The regular bench works both the bottom and upper chest. I always believe in hitting the muscle from different angles to try and work all of the muscles in an area.
    The fact that you have never implemented declines in your routine, Should give you results.
    Just if you are going tomfailure have a spotter. I almost choked myself out.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    The regular bench works both the bottom and upper chest. I always believe in hitting the muscle from different angles to try and work all of the muscles in an area.
    The fact that you have never implemented declines in your routine, Should give you results.
    Just if you are going tomfailure have a spotter. I almost choked myself out.


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    I use a power rack for my lifts so no need for a spotter plus I can bail from failed lift anyway (has happened before on PR lift)
    I have done decline before just not how do I say in every bench workout



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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    The decline bench focuses on the bottom portion of the lower pecs. IMO it better serves a bodybuilder than a normal lifter. That is not to say that I wouldn’t recommend at some point in a routine for an athelete.
    I would take it out if that is what you want.


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    It hits entire pec better than flat or incline

    that's why it's easier to move more weight on the decline because your entire peck is activated instead of just a portion of it

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    Incline presses will build the most-balanced-looking chest. Decline-pressing movements target only the lower pecs, leaving the upper chest underdeveloped.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    It hits entire pec better than flat or incline

    that's why it's easier to move more weight on the decline because your entire peck is activated instead of just a portion of it
    I saw that on the internet. Check a couple of other sights when you google, they will say the opposite.
    I rely on Arnold’s encyclopedia and other reputable gurus. Arnold does not even mention the decline when covering chest. It is classified under “other” chest exercises. He does call out incline and regular bench.
    Why don’t powerlifters have weak lower pecs? Because the bench covers the lower pecs and it is amplified when they arch their back.
    If the decline was so important, why wouldn’t Obs’s franchise gym have one?
    Now that I have said that, I am in agreement with everyone of using the decline, but I also compete.




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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I saw that on the internet. Check a couple of other sights when you google, they will say the opposite.
    I rely on Arnold’s encyclopedia and other reputable gurus. Arnold does not even mention the decline when covering chest. It is classified under “other” chest exercises. He does call out incline and regular bench.
    Why don’t powerlifters have weak lower pecs? Because the bench covers the lower pecs and it is amplified when they arch their back.
    If the decline was so important, why wouldn’t Obs’s franchise gym have one?
    Now that I have said that, I am in agreement with everyone of using the decline, but I also compete.




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    I actually saw an interview with Arnold recently in his older age where he advocated the decline more than anything times change people's opinions change I don't know but you can't hurt putting all three together

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    Quote Originally Posted by Couchlockd View Post
    I actually saw an interview with our recently in his older age where he advocated the decline more than anything times change people's opinions change I don't know but you can't hurt putting all three together
    As I said- I agree. I guess I got carried away because I agree to add it.
    Damn boy- you responded quick!


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    Yeah.... I was just going to jump in and say that decline works the whole pec. This is something I have seen Dorian Yates and Milos Sarcev talk about in an interview and in Milo's secrets of the pro's. I don't do incline or flat bench normally, I do decline bench and then use the dumbbells for flat/incline work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli View Post
    Yeah.... I was just going to jump in and say that decline works the whole pec. This is something I have seen Dorian Yates and Milos Sarcev talk about in an interview and in Milo's secrets of the pro's. I don't do incline or flat bench normally, I do decline bench and then use the dumbbells for flat/incline work.
    To have a balanced chest, I would recommend adding the other two. Although the incline is the most focused of the three, you cannot get the muscle attention of the uppers like you do with the incline.
    I have started using incline almost every routine and now you can see the line separating the mid from the upper.
    Don’t forget to work the inner/ outer portion.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Damn boy- you responded quick!

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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I saw that on the internet. Check a couple of other sights when you google, they will say the opposite.
    I rely on Arnold’s encyclopedia and other reputable gurus. Arnold does not even mention the decline when covering chest. It is classified under “other” chest exercises. He does call out incline and regular bench.
    Why don’t powerlifters have weak lower pecs? Because the bench covers the lower pecs and it is amplified when they arch their back.
    If the decline was so important, why wouldn’t Obs’s franchise gym have one?
    Now that I have said that, I am in agreement with everyone of using the decline, but I also compete.




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    Because owners pick what equip goes in there.
    A couple of them have nothing but free weights for back.

    Decline will take your bench up faster than anything too.

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    Here is the answer for which exercise will hit the chest best of the three...

    Which one are you supposed to be able to bench the most on?

    Zackly.
    Now piss off
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    Here is the answer for which exercise will hit the chest best of the three...

    Which one are you supposed to be able to bench the most on?

    Zackly.
    Now piss off
    Ok Obs likes the decliNe! Decline it is!!
    Poor OP is probably wondering WTF?? LOL


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    To have a balanced chest, I would recommend adding the other two. Although the incline is the most focused of the three, you cannot get the muscle attention of the uppers like you do with the incline.
    I have started using incline almost every routine and now you can see the line separating the mid from the upper.
    Don’t forget to work the inner/ outer portion.


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    I don't subscribe to the belief you need to bench in all 3 positions, you need to do chest work in all 3 yes.. but not specifically bench. So I use either machines, cables or dumbbells in the flat or incline positions.
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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    Ok Obs likes the decliNe! Decline it is!!
    Poor OP is probably wondering WTF?? LOL


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    I aimed that at you arnold sympathizer. You hurt my feelings with that why doesnt obs's gym have one....

    Its because they suck penises

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    Quote Originally Posted by SocioMachiavelli View Post
    I don't subscribe to the belief you need to bench in all 3 positions, you need to do chest work in all 3 yes.. but not specifically bench. So I use either machines, cables or dumbbells in the flat or incline positions.
    Agreed. During bulk I like the compound movements.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I aimed that at you arnold sympathizer. You hurt my feelings with that why doesnt obs's gym have one....

    Its because they suck penises
    I knew I would get a comment out of you on that. However, make your own decline
    Go to a smith machine or squat rack, put something under the bench on one end and......Obs’s gym now has a decline.
    Us poor boys has to be creative because we had limited resources.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    I knew I would get a comment out of you on that. However, make your own decline
    Go to a smith machine or squat rack, put something under the bench on one end and......Obs’s gym now has a decline.
    Us poor boys has to be creative because we had limited resources.


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    I did it once. I threw weights everywhere making a scene putting it up.

    4 benches on 0 decline.

    That is poor life choices and drugs that caude decisions like that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I did it once. I threw weights everywhere making a scene putting it up.

    4 benches on 0 decline.

    That is poor life choices and drugs that caude decisions like that.
    LMAO!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I did it once. I threw weights everywhere making a scene putting it up.

    4 benches on 0 decline.

    That is poor life choices and drugs that caude decisions like that.
    I had to make a decline for dumbells at home.

    I really want a decline bench.

    I really want a seated leg press too.

    Go fund me time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obs View Post
    I did it once. I threw weights everywhere making a scene putting it up.

    4 benches on 0 decline.

    That is poor life choices and drugs that caude decisions like that.
    Are you insinuating that drugs are a bad life choice?
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    From a comparison standpoint, it makes sense to me that decline would hit the pectorals more in general. I often use dips (weighted and not) as an accessory, and I definitely feel those in the chest more than anything.

    Hmmm...fuck a decline bench. I clearly need to learn to learn to bench while hanging upside down from a pullup bar. I feel the CrossFit crowd would approve.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallowmere View Post
    From a comparison standpoint, it makes sense to me that decline would hit the pectorals more in general. I often use dips (weighted and not) as an accessory, and I definitely feel those in the chest more than anything.

    Hmmm...fuck a decline bench. I clearly need to learn to learn to bench while hanging upside down from a pullup bar. I feel the CrossFit crowd would approve.
    Decline takes the stress off the shoulders and activates the chest more
    I also do dips

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    Quote Originally Posted by EDCG19 View Post
    Decline takes the stress off the shoulders and activates the chest more
    I also do dips

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    When you guys decline what angle do you set the bench ? Just as low as it goes ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stalker3060 View Post
    When you guys decline what angle do you set the bench ? Just as low as it goes ?
    The benches at my gym are predetermined. I think they are at -30 degrees.


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    Quote Originally Posted by charger69 View Post
    The benches at my gym are predetermined. I think they are at -30 degrees.


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    As said above, much better for the shoulders.

    Far less impingement, better choice for the later years.
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