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    Are mexicans "spanish" ?

    I got into a somewhat heated debate with a friend and the use of the word "spanish"

    Do you consider it correct to call mexicans "spanish" ? And well, anyone else of so called "spanish decent" for that matter like peurto ricans, etc?

    Or would you consider "Spanish" to be solely in reference to people actually from Spain...with no mixture.

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    i would just consider spanish to mean people from spain not mexican's

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    ...A couple of my friends from Mexico refer to themselves as "Hispanic" and reserve the term "Spanish" for people that are from Spain....

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone
    ...A couple of my friends from Mexico refer to themselves as "Hispanic" and reserve the term "Spanish" for people that are from Spain....
    thats how I alwasy thought of it. Spanish is the language that hispanics use but they are not Spanish. Would you call an American..... English? Also, I alwasy thought people from Spain were called Spaniards? They use to be refered to as Spaniards....dont know what they are refered to now though.

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    Spanish is the language that hispanics use but they are not Spanish.
    but mexican spanish is not the exact same as spanish-spanish. Subtle differences here and there in spelling/pronunciation and conjugations.

    But I always considered mexican's to be hispanics and spaniards to be from spain.

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    mexican spoken spanish defintely varies from other forms of spanish

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    Quote Originally Posted by symatech
    but mexican spanish is not the exact same as spanish-spanish. Subtle differences here and there in spelling/pronunciation and conjugations.

    But I always considered mexican's to be hispanics and spaniards to be from spain.

    well of course not and they way puerto ricans speak is a bit different then the way people from mexico speak and the whey people speak in south america is a bit different then the way people from mexico speak. It is very similar and you can go into either one of those countries and get by with basic knowledge in the Spanish language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    well of course not and they way puerto ricans speak is a bit different then the way people from mexico speak and the whey people speak in south america is a bit different then the way people from mexico speak. It is very similar and you can go into either one of those countries and get by with basic knowledge in the Spanish language.
    I know, was just sayin. What little spanish I know has always been enough to get me around in the many spanish speaking countries I've been to.

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    Like saying quebecers or french canadians are french!
    We never dropped a r***es!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    I have Spanish and Cuban ancestory, I'm going to say Mexicans are not Spanish, I would call them and myself hispanic

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    Like saying quebecers or french canadians are french!
    We never dropped a r***es!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    On that same note however, I dont say I am english-canadian or an ontarioan, I'm just Canadian.

    Just playin with you though 3Vandoo, I'm not looking to get into the whole quebec/canada debate

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    Quote Originally Posted by SexyKitty
    Just playin with you though 3Vandoo, I'm not looking to get into the whole quebec/canada debate
    and its getting freakin ridiculous these days. fukin separatists hippies!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRLS63
    and its getting freakin ridiculous these days. fukin separatists hippies!!

    im a separatist but not a hippie!

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    yup mexicans are not spanish, either hispanic (which is derived from the word spanish) or some people say latino (i have no idea where that one came from)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazwell
    yup mexicans are not spanish, either hispanic (which is derived from the word spanish) or some people say latino (i have no idea where that one came from)
    in theory, italian, french, spanish, portuguese, romanian, irish speakers should be labelled as latino LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazwell
    yup mexicans are not spanish, either hispanic (which is derived from the word spanish) or some people say latino (i have no idea where that one came from)
    I believe latino comes from being from latin america.

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    Mexican Are Hispanic Not Spanish.

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    Some Mexicans have Spanish blood but usually People from Spain and mexico are different races. Spaniards are white, most Mexicans are Meztiso (sp?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Benches505
    Some Mexicans have Spanish blood but usually People from Spain and mexico are different races. Spaniards are white, most Mexicans are Meztiso (sp?)
    Thats probably the most correct so far.

    I believe if you want to get super technicaly, Mexicans can be considered 'Spanish' due largely in part to the blood relation to Spain, and the inheritance of the "Spanish Culture". However, with that said, its not 'correct' to label a mexican as spanish. Depends on how losely you want to throw the word around. I know where I am from its not a correct use of the word.

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    Quote Originally Posted by newbrew
    I got into a somewhat heated debate with a friend and the use of the word "spanish"

    Do you consider it correct to call mexicans "spanish" ? And well, anyone else of so called "spanish decent" for that matter like peurto ricans, etc?

    Or would you consider "Spanish" to be solely in reference to people actually from Spain...with no mixture.
    consider "Spanish" to be solely in reference to people actually from Spain...with no mixture.
    I'm an American of Mexican decent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by almostgone
    ...A couple of my friends from Mexico refer to themselves as "Hispanic" and reserve the term "Spanish" for people that are from Spain....

    I am hispanic and it would be an insult to call me a spanish.

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    ok,

    a mexican is a spaniard mixed with aztec, or whatever other race of indian was in mexico.. mexico, just like the united states, was at one time only "indians", like aztec..
    a long, long time ago spaniards came to mexico.. the spanish were very white and had light eyes.. aztecs were very dark with dark eyes..

    well over the years the races integrated.. although in some parts of mexico, like patzcuaro, there are still people with heavy aztec traits and even speak a litttle aztec, while in other parts, like monterry, there are very light skinned mexicans some even have blue eyes.. but, i doubt that there are any 100% spaniards in mexico due to the fact that almost no women came with the spaniards.

    i have family all over mexico and i have seen this.. by the way there are some very hot women in monterry.
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    Don't New Mexicans refer to raza as "Spanish"? Oops!! Didn't mean to start another heated debate.



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    mexicans are a mix of: europeans, arabs, south american

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    mexicans are a mix of: europeans, arabs, south american
    what?

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    europeans which are the sapnich ppl (ppl from spain), arabs took over spain back in early 600's, and south americans always migrated in and out into mexico lands.
    i studied that in a Histroy class.

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    unless u can tell why alot of mexicans looks VERY middle eastern and have arabic names like (omar, kareem...) plus the city of Guadelajara which is a big vally of rocks and stones is an arabic work originally (wady al hajar) means the valley of rocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    europeans which are the sapnich ppl (ppl from spain), arabs took over spain back in early 600's, and south americans always migrated in and out into mexico lands.
    i studied that in a Histroy class.
    if it was taught in your history, that arabs took over spain, then it's probably true.. but, do you know of any arab cultural influence in spain or mexico? i can't think of any.. i always thought the arabs were defeated by the jesuit knight crusaders .

    by arab do you mean hebrew jewish.. or middle eastern islamic?
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    i ment islamic arabs who conquered spain for about 100 years and were defeated by Charles Martel King of the Franks (french). until now Spain has Mousques in it (islamic church) and arabic names for some cities.

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    Saying all that, why do you people call blacks "African Americans" then?. Shouldn't Mixicans then be called "Spanish Americans" or something?. Your either Mexican, American, European or African. I speak English, but I'm Irish if someone called me a Brit a kick them in the nuts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    Saying all that, why do you people call blacks "African Americans" then?. Shouldn't Mixicans then be called "Spanish Americans" or something?. Your either Mexican, American, European or African. I speak English, but I'm Irish if someone called me a Brit a kick them in the nuts.

    So you're saying your an Irish Brit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3Vandoo
    So you're saying your an Irish Brit?

    Read it again ya French bastard!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BOUNCER
    Read it again ya French bastard!
    I did you Brit

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokethedays
    unless u can tell why alot of mexicans looks VERY middle eastern and have arabic names like (omar, kareem...) plus the city of Guadelajara which is a big vally of rocks and stones is an arabic work originally (wady al hajar) means the valley of rocks.

    I have never in my 29 years of life here met a Mexican named Kareem. Arabs might have ruled Spain and might have some influence into Mexico's culture but they do not make up Mexicans or the people of South America. Thats like saying Eurpeans make up Indians since they took over the US. There is still a purity to the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    thats how I alwasy thought of it. Spanish is the language that hispanics use but they are not Spanish. Would you call an American..... English? Also, I alwasy thought people from Spain were called Spaniards? They use to be refered to as Spaniards....dont know what they are refered to now though.
    I agree with this. "Spanish" is the name of the language. "Hispanic" is what you call people of "Latin" descent. I have a very good Columbian friend, and he sees it this way also.

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    Quote Originally Posted by abstrack
    ...and the whey people speak in south america is a bit different...
    Bahahahaha, you've been in this game way too long, my friend...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tazwell
    i always thought the arabs were defeated by the jesuit knight crusaders.
    I went to a Jesuit highschool and our mascot was the crusader!!! God, I hated going to an all boy catholic school.... (bring on the jokes!!)

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    I don't like spaniards period.........

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