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    This is a similar post, but I couldnt help posting this... about Kanye West after....

    Seeing the cover of Time Magazine From last week. Its says "why he's the smartest man in pop music". After watching this video, if he is the smartest man in pop music.... Then I really feel sorry for pop music.

    http://media.putfile.com/Kanye79


    I bet Time Magazine feels really stupid now.


    http://www.time.com/time/magazine/ar...096499,00.html

    The first time Kanye West asked the folks at Roc-A-Fella records to let him rap, there was an uncomfortable silence. As a producer, West had churned out hits for Roc-A-Fella's intimidating trio of stars--Jay-Z, Cam'ron and Beanie Siegel--and earned praise for his great ear and tireless ethic. But in 2002 the idea that someone like West could be a successful rapper was faintly absurd. "Kanye wore a pink shirt with the collar sticking up and Gucci loafers," recalls Damon Dash, then Roc-A-Fella CEO. "It was obvious we were not from the same place or cut from the same cloth." Says Jay-Z: "We all...
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    hes a fukin idiot

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    We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUBBA74
    We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.

    He came out with a song about Jesus and everyone jumped on it cause it was different (who raps about Jesus?) But then he comes out on the VMA's and comes out cussing and raps about women and sex

    He's a fukin idiot!!!!!!!!! JMHO

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    Quote Originally Posted by BUBBA74
    We'll he isnt that bright of a person blurting something like that out in the open on tv but that doesnt mean he doesnt know what he's doing behind the scenes in the music industry.
    The Quote was "the smartest man in pop music"..... Like I said if he's the smartest... then that is pretty darn sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUISECONTROL
    He came out with a song about Jesus and everyone jumped on it cause it was different (who raps about Jesus?) But then he comes out on the VMA's and comes out cussing and raps about women and sex

    He's a fukin idiot!!!!!!!!! JMHO

    I couldn't agree more

    Kayne for president!!

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    He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

    BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

    BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

    OK, Lets deconstruct what you just said?

    How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas?Many hundreds of them"..... Really????? HUNDREDS YOU SAY???

    Appendix A - EXECUTIONS UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH

    1995 - 2000

    1995

    Clifton Russell
    Willie Ray Williams
    Jeffrey Motley
    Billy Conn Gardner
    Samuel Hawkins
    Noble Mays
    Fletcher Thomas Mann
    Ronald Allridge
    John Fearance Jr.
    Karl Hammond
    Vernon Satterwhite
    Carl Johnson Jr.
    Harold Joe Lane
    Bernard Amos
    Hai Hai Vuong
    Esequel Banda
    James Briddle

    1996

    Leo Jenkins
    Kenneth Granviel
    Joe Gonzales

    1997

    Richard Brimage Jr.
    John Barefield
    David Lee Herman
    David Spence
    Billy Woods
    Kenneth Gentry
    Benjamin Boyle
    Ernest Orville Baldree
    Terry Washington
    Anthony Ray Westley
    Clifton Belyeu
    Richard Drinkard
    Clarence Lackey
    Bruce Callins
    Larry Wayne White
    Robert Madden
    Patrick Roberts
    Kenneth Harris
    Davis Losada
    Dorsie Johnson
    Earl Behringer
    David Stoker
    Eddie James Johnson
    Irineo Montoya
    Robert West Jr.
    James Carl Lee Davis
    Jessel Turner
    Benjamin Stone
    John Cockrum
    Dwight Adanandus
    Ricky Lee Green
    Kenneth Ransom
    Aua Lauti
    Aaron Lee Fuller
    Michael Sharp
    Charlie Lee Livingston
    Michael Lockhart

    1998

    Karla Faye Tucker
    Steven Renfro
    Jerry Lee Hogue
    Joseph Cannon
    Lesley Gosch
    Frank McFarland
    Robert A. Carter
    Pedro Cruz Muniz
    Clifford Boggs
    Johnny Pyles
    Leopoldo Narvaiz
    Genaro Ruiz Camacho
    Delbert Teague
    David Castillo
    Javier Cruz
    Jonathan Nobles
    Kenneth McDuff
    Daniel Lee Corwin
    Jeff Emery
    James Meanes

    1999

    John Glenn Moody
    Troy Farris
    Martin Vega
    Jorge Cordova
    Danny Lee Barber
    Andrew Cantu
    Norman Green
    Charles Rector
    Robert Excell White
    Aaron C. Foust
    Jose De La Cruz
    Clydell Coleman
    William Little
    Joseph Stanley Faulder
    Charles Daniel Tuttle
    Tyrone Fuller
    Ricky Blackmon
    Charles Anthony Boyd
    kenneth Dunn
    James Earhart
    Joe Trevino
    Raymond James Jones
    Willis Barnes
    William Price Davis
    Richard Wayne Smith
    Alvin Wayne Crane
    Jerry McFadden
    Domingo Cantu
    Desmond Jennings
    John Michael Lamb
    Jose Gutierrez
    David Long
    James Beathard
    Robert Atworth
    Sammie Felder Jr.

    2000

    <>Earl Heiselbetz, Jr.
    Spencer Goodman
    David Hicks
    Larry Robison
    Billy Hughes, Jr.
    Glen McGinnis
    James Moreland
    Cornelius Goss
    Betty Lou Beets
    Odell Barnes Jr.
    Ponchai Wilkerson
    Timothy Gribble
    Tommy Ray Jackson
    William Kitchens
    Michael McBride
    James Richardson
    Richard Foster
    James Clayton
    Robert Carter
    Thomas Mason
    John Burks
    Paul Nuncio
    Gary Graham
    Jessy San Miguel
    Orien Joiner
    Juan Soria
    Brian Roberson
    Oliver Cruz
    John Satterwhite
    Richard Jones
    David Gibbs
    Jeff Caldwell
    Ricky McGinn
    Jeffrey Dillingham
    Miguel Flores
    Stacey Lawton
    Garry Miller
    Daniel Hittle
    Claude Jones

    Through Dec. 7, 2000 (152)

    http://www.tcadp.org/bush_perry.html

    Sorry this does not say thier race bud... maybe you can find that out for me, but I would be willing to bet that a good bunch of these people were,,,..... hmmmmm WHITE?!?!?

    Miguel Flores- This guys sounds black?
    Richard Jones- How about this guy? Sounds really black to me too.
    Billy Hughes, Jr.- I could go on, but I already feed you your lunch.

    How would I feel if a govenor executed 500 White people you ask? I would feel fine as long as they were given a fair trial by thier peers. And guess what? These people did regardless of whether they were white black orange or green. Do you have any idea how long people sit on death row awaiting appeals?
    OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdawg50
    OK, Lets deconstruct what you just said?

    How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas?Many hundreds of them"..... Really????? HUNDREDS YOU SAY???

    Appendix A - EXECUTIONS UNDER GEORGE W. BUSH

    1995 - 2000

    1995

    Clifton Russell
    Willie Ray Williams
    Jeffrey Motley
    Billy Conn Gardner
    Samuel Hawkins
    Noble Mays
    Fletcher Thomas Mann
    Ronald Allridge
    John Fearance Jr.
    Karl Hammond
    Vernon Satterwhite
    Carl Johnson Jr.
    Harold Joe Lane
    Bernard Amos
    Hai Hai Vuong
    Esequel Banda
    James Briddle

    1996

    Leo Jenkins
    Kenneth Granviel
    Joe Gonzales

    1997

    Richard Brimage Jr.
    John Barefield
    David Lee Herman
    David Spence
    Billy Woods
    Kenneth Gentry
    Benjamin Boyle
    Ernest Orville Baldree
    Terry Washington
    Anthony Ray Westley
    Clifton Belyeu
    Richard Drinkard
    Clarence Lackey
    Bruce Callins
    Larry Wayne White
    Robert Madden
    Patrick Roberts
    Kenneth Harris
    Davis Losada
    Dorsie Johnson
    Earl Behringer
    David Stoker
    Eddie James Johnson
    Irineo Montoya
    Robert West Jr.
    James Carl Lee Davis
    Jessel Turner
    Benjamin Stone
    John Cockrum
    Dwight Adanandus
    Ricky Lee Green
    Kenneth Ransom
    Aua Lauti
    Aaron Lee Fuller
    Michael Sharp
    Charlie Lee Livingston
    Michael Lockhart

    1998

    Karla Faye Tucker
    Steven Renfro
    Jerry Lee Hogue
    Joseph Cannon
    Lesley Gosch
    Frank McFarland
    Robert A. Carter
    Pedro Cruz Muniz
    Clifford Boggs
    Johnny Pyles
    Leopoldo Narvaiz
    Genaro Ruiz Camacho
    Delbert Teague
    David Castillo
    Javier Cruz
    Jonathan Nobles
    Kenneth McDuff
    Daniel Lee Corwin
    Jeff Emery
    James Meanes

    1999

    John Glenn Moody
    Troy Farris
    Martin Vega
    Jorge Cordova
    Danny Lee Barber
    Andrew Cantu
    Norman Green
    Charles Rector
    Robert Excell White
    Aaron C. Foust
    Jose De La Cruz
    Clydell Coleman
    William Little
    Joseph Stanley Faulder
    Charles Daniel Tuttle
    Tyrone Fuller
    Ricky Blackmon
    Charles Anthony Boyd
    kenneth Dunn
    James Earhart
    Joe Trevino
    Raymond James Jones
    Willis Barnes
    William Price Davis
    Richard Wayne Smith
    Alvin Wayne Crane
    Jerry McFadden
    Domingo Cantu
    Desmond Jennings
    John Michael Lamb
    Jose Gutierrez
    David Long
    James Beathard
    Robert Atworth
    Sammie Felder Jr.

    2000

    <>Earl Heiselbetz, Jr.
    Spencer Goodman
    David Hicks
    Larry Robison
    Billy Hughes, Jr.
    Glen McGinnis
    James Moreland
    Cornelius Goss
    Betty Lou Beets
    Odell Barnes Jr.
    Ponchai Wilkerson
    Timothy Gribble
    Tommy Ray Jackson
    William Kitchens
    Michael McBride
    James Richardson
    Richard Foster
    James Clayton
    Robert Carter
    Thomas Mason
    John Burks
    Paul Nuncio
    Gary Graham
    Jessy San Miguel
    Orien Joiner
    Juan Soria
    Brian Roberson
    Oliver Cruz
    John Satterwhite
    Richard Jones
    David Gibbs
    Jeff Caldwell
    Ricky McGinn
    Jeffrey Dillingham
    Miguel Flores
    Stacey Lawton
    Garry Miller
    Daniel Hittle
    Claude Jones

    Through Dec. 7, 2000 (152)

    http://www.tcadp.org/bush_perry.html

    Sorry this does not say thier race bud... maybe you can find that out for me, but I would be willing to bet that a good bunch of these people were,,,..... hmmmmm WHITE?!?!?

    Miguel Flores- This guys sounds black?
    Richard Jones- How about this guy? Sounds really black to me too.
    Billy Hughes, Jr.- I could go on, but I already feed you your lunch.

    How would I feel if a govenor executed 500 White people you ask? I would feel fine as long as they were given a fair trial by thier peers. And guess what? These people did regardless of whether they were white black orange or green. Do you have any idea how long people sit on death row awaiting appeals?
    OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........
    Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

    BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

    .............Kindly supply proof of these accusations of "questionable circumstances". Oh, I forgot, you must have read them in the New York Times.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.
    I documented my section, no go ahead and do the same for me big guy, opening you mouth and allowing garbage to fall out does not make what you say true. So lets see what is fact and fiction. So far, all you have said is fiction, unless you have great documented proof of what you say. You said "hundreds of blacks were executed under Bush" I showed you that only a total of 152 people were executed under Bush while he was govenor. So why don't you try to find something with substance, and show me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duck of Death
    .............Kindly supply proof of these accusations of "questionable circumstances". Oh, I forgot, you must have read them in the New York Times.
    The NYT is way to the right of whatever he's been reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

    ..Once again, I ask for proof, not bleatings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdawg50
    OK now it is time for you to shut your mouth..........
    It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



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    But its ok to lie and deceive? When people say things thay can't back up. Some times they should be told they are wrong. Why is the "I win" Smilie there in the first place then?

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    Again, there is no need to talk to other members like that in a demeaning fashion. What I said is not open for debate, it was simple instruction.

    Do with that what you will, but remember this is a warning. Just play nice, and go about your argument in a constructive manner and "kill 'em with kindness". You can still "win" an argument w/out being juvenile.

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    Understood, but I still think the above statements were so false they deserved a responce that was harsh. I will be more PC in the future.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    He is not an idiot, you are all idiots if you dont think Bush doesnt care about black people. How many blacks did he execute while he was Governor of Texas? Many hundreds of them. I doubt he lost much sleep over these executions, or gave much thought as to how many of these people were actually guilty and deserved to die when he had the power to overturn as many of these executions as he wanted to. Shit, how would you feel if a black president killed 500 white people while he was governor, many under questionable circumstances? If i was black I would hate prez Bush.

    BTW I am not black, just anti-Bush, anti-republican, anti-Fox News, but I love that Bill O'Reilly for some reason.

    HOw much sleep did you loose? HOw many petitions did you write?

    The simple fact is...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdawg50
    Understood, but I still think the above statements were so false they deserved a responce that was harsh. I will be more PC in the future.
    Hey, if they are false then attack!

    But, u know what I mean.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    Hey, if they are false then attack!

    But, u know what I mean.

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    Dam All these political debates happen in threads but dam if I cant post something that turns political my shit gets deleted or closed

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwoleCat
    It's fine to have constructive debates back/forth, however there is no need for this type of shit.



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    I don't think he was really out of line man. It's not a real harsh comment he made. Hell in the politics forum people are talking about other people deserving to die...this forum is pretty mild. just my $.02

    It seems like you both have worked it out, I just don't think jdawg was really flamming him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by livewire57
    Fair trial? Most of them couldn't afford a lawyer and were given a shitty public defendant, many of whom were asleep, yes ASLEEP during their client's trials. These people were just whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence. Completely unacceptable in this country.

    In my opinion the list should be a lot longer.

    whisked through the system and given a quick death sentence
    I take it you that consider spending over 10 years on death row being "whisked through", that’s not even taking in account the couple of years it takes for the original trial?

    It is easy to spout out uninformed opinions, as above.

    It is another thing to be able to back up your statements.

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    After seeing the Kanye West video, I think that Laura Ingraham in her book, put it best....


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    'THE BIG BOO' CROWD HISSES KANYE WEST
    Fri Sep 09 2005 10:30:28 ET

    The chart topping hip hop rapper star who used a network hurricane fundraiser to charge "George Bush doesn't care about black people" was loudly and lustily booed during last night's NFL kickoff show.

    The appearance of Kanye West, who was beamed into the Boston stadium via remote from Los Angeles, received a strongly negative response from the crowd.

    "The boos were thunderous and lasted for much of his number," reports the BOSTON GLOBE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jdawg50
    'THE BIG BOO' CROWD HISSES KANYE WEST
    Fri Sep 09 2005 10:30:28 ET

    The chart topping hip hop rapper star who used a network hurricane fundraiser to charge "George Bush doesn't care about black people" was loudly and lustily booed during last night's NFL kickoff show.

    The appearance of Kanye West, who was beamed into the Boston stadium via remote from Los Angeles, received a strongly negative response from the crowd.

    "The boos were thunderous and lasted for much of his number," reports the BOSTON GLOBE.
    Of course he was booed. He was selfish enough to make political banter during a relief concert for the greatest natural disaster (Andrew maybe) in US history. I'm sure the black people starving and dying from disease in the area are glad that he took time to share his political opinion during THEIR relief concert.

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    The best is after West say that Bush doesn't care about black people the look on Myer's face.

    There aren't just black people that are starving and dying there. I hate it when everything comes down to race and then people run with it.

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    Lol for whoever sed Richard Jones isnt a black mans name, u mite wna watch Mr. Olympia this year!!

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