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    Question Help an AS Bro Out - Cycle #2 (low dose cycle)

    Here we go...cycle #2
    Please give some advice on my re-worked low dose, short cycle. I have done a low dose Prop/Deca /Dbol cycle in the past and have over 10 years in the gym. I’m looking for lean gains this time around, as I put on 35lbs and lost 20lbs on the cycle above….losing 20lbs of water was not fun.

    I need advice on the compounds below. Here is my “new” cycle:

    Weeks 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD
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    Weeks 1-8: Durabolin 100mg/EOD or Masteron 100mg/eod
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    Weeks 3-8: Anavar 30-40mg/day or Winny 40mg/day

    I think this will give me about 10lbs of keepable muscle. I bloat a tonne on Test (yes, even Prop), so I think .25mg L-dex/day and 20mg/nolva a day should cut that down

    PCT: 300/100/50 for 21 days with l-dex and Clen (no nolva as I don’t want the estrogen rebound from it)

    I’m not ready for Fina just yet, peeing blood is a bit scarey.

    Let me know what you think, as I value all bros opinions on the board

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    Why such a short cycle? And what did your first cycle look like?

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    For starters I'd run your Prop/Durabolin /Anavar combo for lean gains, unless you don't mind hairloss - then I'd opt for the Masteron (or Proviron ) over the Durabolin. JMO.

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    For job reasons, longer cycles are hard for me to do.
    Last cycle was:
    Weeks 1-12: Test Prop 100mg/eod
    Weeks1-10: Deca 200mg/week
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol 25mg/day
    Nolva 20mg throughout

    PCt: 300/100/50 for 21 days with 20mg Nolva

    That gave me 35lbs and I kept only 10 (losing 20+lbs is mentally horrible). Hence I'm looking for more "lean" gains this time around with faster acting compounds.
    Thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    For job reasons, longer cycles are hard for me to do.
    Last cycle was:
    Weeks 1-12: Test Prop 100mg/eod
    Weeks1-10: Deca 200mg/week
    Weeks 1-4: Dbol 25mg/day
    Nolva 20mg throughout

    PCt: 300/100/50 for 21 days with 20mg Nolva

    That gave me 35lbs and I kept only 10 (losing 20+lbs is mentally horrible). Hence I'm looking for more "lean" gains this time around with faster acting compounds.
    Thoughts?
    Thats a lot of loss...... I dont think that I could handle that. Those dosages were really low bro.

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    umm Masteron may/may not be of use, its often used before a contest and is most useful with very very low bf.

    id extend it to 10 if possible

    test till 10
    deca till 9
    var till 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    I need advice on the compounds below. Here is my “new” cycle:

    Weeks 1-8: Test Prop 100mg/EOD
    +
    Weeks 1-8: Durabolin 100mg/EOD or Masteron 100mg/eod
    +
    Weeks 3-8: Anavar 30-40mg/day or Winny 40mg/day

    I think this will give me about 10lbs of keepable muscle. I bloat a tonne on Test (yes, even Prop), so I think .25mg L-dex/day and 20mg/nolva a day should cut that down

    PCT: 300/100/50 for 21 days with l-dex and Clen (no nolva as I don’t want the estrogen rebound from it)

    I’m not ready for Fina just yet, peeing blood is a bit scarey.

    Let me know what you think, as I value all bros opinions on the board
    I think you've got a good plan. I don't know much about Durabolin myself though. The Prop would be better injected ED but EOD is ok. I suggest 150mg EOD. I've never heard of peeing blood as a side of Anavar. Unless you're just refering to damaging your kidneys. Peeing blood is pretty extreme I think.

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    Thx,
    Yeah, does are low, but I responded so well on my first cycle of low doses (35lbs) that I might as well move up slowly in dose size so I get the most out of each mg.

    So -
    Prop 1-10
    Durabolin 1-9
    Anavar 1-8

    Is Var ok for 8 weeks straight? (it's still a c-17, so it's gonna hit my liver)

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    How about something completely different?

    Perhaps something similar to -

    Weeks 1-12: Equipose 400 mg
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    Weeks 1-12: Test Enanthate 500 mg
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    Weeks 4-12: Oxandrolone 40 mg/day



    That's a "lean gain" cycle if I've ever seen one! But that's JMO; good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by NJou812
    Is Var ok for 8 weeks straight? (it's still a c-17, so it's gonna hit my liver)
    Hell, you could probably run anavar for twice as long as that (even without liver protectants) and probably not see any significant change in your liver values. Even though it is 17aa, the stuff is so mild on the liver that doctors give it to recovering alcoholics. If anything you'd want to worry about it's effects on your lipids.

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    Thx for the Var info.

    I like the cycle but looking for something faster acting as even 10 weeks is pushing it for me. Job issues make anything longer than 10 weeks really tough.

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    i think you got a good 8 weeker planned out bro. best of luck to ya

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    Looks like your well on your way to growing bro! Best of luck to you!

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