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    what is the single most effective steroid combo for bulking?

    Without taking weight/body fat/diet or any other variables into consideration, what is the best substance, or combination of aas substances to put on bulk? I know diet is a huge part in bulking, but Im just curious if there is one or a couple that do the job better than others.

    test + dbol ?
    test + drol?
    test + deca + dbol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by pbjones81
    Without taking weight/body fat/diet or any other variables into consideration, what is the best substance, or combination of aas substances to put on bulk? I know diet is a huge part in bulking, but Im just curious if there is one or a couple that do the job better than others.

    test + dbol ?
    test + drol?
    test + deca + dbol?
    well thats simple,TEST,TEST,TEST!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    well thats simple,TEST,TEST,TEST!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by cmillett
    well thats simple,TEST,TEST,TEST!!!!!
    I love it!!! If I were asked what I have used that is the most effective bulker I would have to say test, but if you asked which steroid produces the most gains in shortest period of time, I think all the info says Drol. Problem is, the gain just don't stay.

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    [QUOTE=pbjones81]Without taking weight/body fat/diet or any other variables into consideration, what is the best substance, or combination of aas substances to put on bulk? I know diet is a huge part in bulking, but Im just curious if there is one or a couple that do the job better than others.

    test + dbol ?
    test + drol?
    test + deca + dbol?[/QU

    whats your cycle experiance?

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    [QUOTE=cmillett]
    Quote Originally Posted by pbjones81

    whats your cycle experiance?
    none, I considered it, and even got some gear, but over the last week, several people told me to wait, so thats what Im doing....just wanting to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbjones81
    none, I considered it, and even got some gear, but over the last week, several people told me to wait, so thats what Im doing....just wanting to learn.
    Thats a good idea, there lots of info here to learn from and use to your advantage. as a 1st cycle i would stay away from drol the dbol and test cycle would be a good place to start.
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    200mg of test suspension/day - nothing compares.

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    test deca drol packs it on.

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    deffinitely anadrol and testosteron.

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    food..... but that's not a drug,

    however chemical reactions take place..

    the truth is.. it's food that makes you grow.. eat more than you need to live.. adn you bulk..
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    test/drol/tren

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ejuicer
    test/drol/tren
    or test dbol tren ... along with a bunch of protein throughout the day, PWO meal is the most important meal of the day. Bedtime and breakfast being the next important ones. Hell, all eating is important.

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    if you r looking for extreme gan and dont care for your health- nothing more effective than anadrol .

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    Some AS will aid with bulking just like some aid with cutting. Truth is, diets the key to bulking, same as diets the key to cutting.

    Without the correct diet it doesnt matter what combination of compounds you take, you will not reach your goals unless you dont feed your body with the correct amount of fuel.

    Dbol /Test/Deca with the correct diet.

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    IMO, the best overall bulker you can run is test/deca .

    both are great for keepable gains, and they are synergistic, as you will see bigger strength gains and libido stability with the test as opposed to deca alone, whereas you will see biger size gains and have great joint support with deca/test as opposed to test alone.

    obviously, test alone is the best choice for a single compound, but test deca is butter for safe, keepable gains.

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    IMO, the best overall bulker you can run is test/deca .

    both are great for keepable gains, and they are synergistic, as you will see bigger strength gains and libido stability with the test as opposed to deca alone, whereas you will see biger size gains and have great joint support with deca/test as opposed to test alone.

    obviously, test alone is the best choice for a single compound, but test deca is butter for safe, keepable gains.
    whats the most you run? say its like your 4th cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    whats the most you run? say its like your 4th cycle
    shit you gotta feel that out for yourself man. some people can run like 500 test a wk and 400 deca (which i would consider a standard dose for someone reasonably big and strong, but not too conservative) and see great gains, but other are gonna have to bump it to see great results. me personally, i see ALOT better gains @ about 700mg's of test a week, but i also weight around 200lbs lean if i take a whole year off, which i'm not proud to admit i have done.

    but once you start going past a gram of test and 600 of deca or so, that's when most people can be pretty much assured they're gonna have to run anti-e's and have to have cabergoline on hand (to counteract any deca sides).

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    Quote Originally Posted by J.S.N.
    shit you gotta feel that out for yourself man. some people can run like 500 test a wk and 400 deca (which i would consider a standard dose for someone reasonably big and strong, but not too conservative) and see great gains, but other are gonna have to bump it to see great results. me personally, i see ALOT better gains @ about 700mg's of test a week, but i also weight around 200lbs lean if i take a whole year off, which i'm not proud to admit i have done.

    but once you start going past a gram of test and 600 of deca or so, that's when most people can be pretty much assured they're gonna have to run anti-e's and have to have cabergoline on hand (to counteract any deca sides).
    already gone past those and have a-dex (script .5mg ed) no probs. went up to about 1g deca and 1.5 test...got high bloodpressure (already did) but got way high only other thing is sweating. bang the missis 30 or 40 mins and its like a monsoon i am drenched in sweat, just curious if i could try to go even higher for the last couple weeks. noticed an earlier post where 1 of the "writers" says he's done 2 grams each ew i would love to try something almost as high but im a pusss

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    whats the most you run? say its like your 4th cycle

    I just happened to finish my fourth cycle last month..
    Week 1-8 Tren @75mg/ED
    Wekk 1-9 Test Prop @100mgs/ED

    But that was a cutting cycle, so that doesn't really help you much, sorry...I was just really excited to talk about my last cycle i loved it so much and miss it everyday

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    Quote Originally Posted by mister.fantastic
    I just happened to finish my fourth cycle last month..
    Week 1-8 Tren @75mg/ED
    Wekk 1-9 Test Prop @100mgs/ED

    But that was a cutting cycle, so that doesn't really help you much, sorry...I was just really excited to talk about my last cycle i loved it so much and miss it everyday
    hmm tren...been seriously considering it, may wait till spring

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    hmm tren...been seriously considering it, may wait till spring
    ..you'll love it....

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    it's funny cuz i am a bit leary but at the same time i have read up on all the ways to make it

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    i don't compete so i'm not sure it's worth it for me. at the same time i hear many say the sides are way over exagerated

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    eat eat eat that is best mass drug nothing beats 10000 calories a day just ask jay cutler

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    Quote Originally Posted by smiler
    already gone past those and have a-dex (script .5mg ed) no probs. went up to about 1g deca and 1.5 test...got high bloodpressure (already did) but got way high only other thing is sweating. bang the missis 30 or 40 mins and its like a monsoon i am drenched in sweat, just curious if i could try to go even higher for the last couple weeks. noticed an earlier post where 1 of the "writers" says he's done 2 grams each ew i would love to try something almost as high but im a pusss
    hhmmm, if you wanna go over those dosages i would consider getting some kind of blood pressure medication script from your doctor.

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    test e/ anadrol / tri-tren

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    test deca drol
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    test tren drol (harsh tho)

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    eat double your bodyweight in protein and it's pretty hard not to grow

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    whats the best kind of test, i see alot on here about test en and test prob, which is better with the deca cycle...and with just one small maybe half or 6 week cycle stilluse clomid to be safe or is there a conversion kind of thign that says how long u should wait or take after u stop the deca cycle to start clomid?....how much does test run say for an 8 week cycle, ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsfootballplayer
    whats the best kind of test, i see alot on here about test en and test prob, which is better with the deca cycle...and with just one small maybe half or 6 week cycle stilluse clomid to be safe or is there a conversion kind of thign that says how long u should wait or take after u stop the deca cycle to start clomid?....how much does test run say for an 8 week cycle, ?
    Can you say Hijack?? You need to start a new thread my friend. Better yet - try the profiles forum and research the diff types of test - a lot of good info in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hsfootballplayer
    whats the best kind of test, i see alot on here about test en and test prob, which is better with the deca cycle...and with just one small maybe half or 6 week cycle stilluse clomid to be safe or is there a conversion kind of thign that says how long u should wait or take after u stop the deca cycle to start clomid?....how much does test run say for an 8 week cycle, ?
    Oh yea - and 6 weeks of test / deca isnt going to do you jack sh*t. Keep reading and looking around the boards here.

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    test and tren all day long mate!

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    Red face lol

    fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by redmeat
    eat double your bodyweight in protein and it's pretty hard not to grow
    Ok so I need 440 lbs of protein a day....wow.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by booz
    test and tren all day long mate!
    Ohhhhhhhhhhhh my kinda cycle

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    More Test And More Test = More Gains

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    Quote Originally Posted by CapnZ
    Oh yea - and 6 weeks of test / deca isnt going to do you jack sh*t. Keep reading and looking around the boards here.
    ayup. deca should be run a minimum of 10 weeks, and test 8 weeks.

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    No test, no cycle!

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