Thread: First Cycle EQ+DEC VS SES
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10-08-2005, 10:40 AM #1Member
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First Cycle EQ+DEC VS SES
First Cycle EQ+DEC VS SES
I am new to AS and was going to start a cycle with EQ + Deca + Clen ...now it's very clear that I should at least start with Test alone or to include it into the above stack.
Question: For a first time user I'm being told to run a cycle of Sustanon , EQ, Deca to put on weight and mass and not inc. clen. (I do like to maintain a lean frame though)...and that I'll need to eat 4-5k in healthy calories with high protein and let the muscle mature on my frame...then start another cycle in March 06 with parabolon, halotestin and winstrol & clen to melt the fat and water weight to achieve a ripped frame...
How does this sound?
Steroids are safe when used in moderation...is this moderate if the doses are proper? I'm not going to go losing my hair am I !@##$%
I'm 27 years old....6'2" 200lbs. Training for 10 years. As far as my eating habits I would say they are above average. 40/40/20 carbs, protein, fats through 5-8 meals a day for a total of around 3,000 cals. I try and consume at least 200+ grams of protein per day.
Thanks in advance everyone...
JCLast edited by jef; 10-08-2005 at 01:37 PM.
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10-08-2005, 11:08 AM #2Originally Posted by jeffc
weeks. Post your stats...age? diet? training experience?
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10-08-2005, 11:11 AM #3
Listen to thejuice:
1-12 Test E or C @ 500mg EW (inject twice weekly I.E. monday morning/thursday evening)
Hair loss is a genetic issue, If the males in your family have become bald chances are you too will be prone to Male Pattern Baldness. AAS can accelerate the process,
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10-08-2005, 11:18 AM #4
Yea....one ester test first time out...see how you react. Test Enan is my choice. Finast for hair loss, did ARR stop selling Finast??
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10-08-2005, 12:18 PM #5
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10-08-2005, 01:40 PM #6Member
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10-08-2005, 02:09 PM #7Originally Posted by jeffc
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10-08-2005, 02:10 PM #8
because sust has prop in it, it shud be injected everyother day where cyp and enanthate twice a week is good.
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10-08-2005, 02:14 PM #9Member
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10-08-2005, 02:20 PM #10Originally Posted by jeffc
i think u need to stick around here for a bit and leanr b4 jumping into a cycle.
heres another cycle u could do with a little more:
wks1-4 dbol 30mg/day
wks1-13 test e or cyp 500-750mg/weeks
*maybe-wks1-12 eq 500mg/week*
10mg/nolva thruout cycle and proper pct...
better off to stick with test and dbol tho
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10-08-2005, 02:32 PM #11Member
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I edited the post at the top to include my stats...I'm getting advice from a friend and maybe I mixed up what he was telling me...
Weeks1-12 Sustanon
Weeks 1-12 Deca
Weeks 1-8 Dbol
Weeks 9-12+ EQ + running this into my 2nd cycle to make the 12 week duraction that you've mentioned...
Is this better?
I think you're right too...sticking aorund here and learning more is definitely in my best interest!
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10-08-2005, 02:37 PM #12Originally Posted by jeffc
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10-08-2005, 02:40 PM #13Member
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You're right...I do need to cycle off and do PCT...I should stop typing and confusing myself...I could have swore he told me that he would have me run straight through for 9 months! Sounds like it's better to go for 12 weeks then cycle off and start a 2nd cycle after PCT +or- some more time between?...thanks for helping me out tycin. Also, I guess I'm not stuck on Sust...it just keeps getting recommended to me as the best and my friend is telling me this is what I need to use vs. a single est.
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10-08-2005, 03:22 PM #14Originally Posted by jeffc
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10-08-2005, 03:31 PM #15Member
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Do you mean do a pct of at least 16 weeks then?
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10-08-2005, 03:52 PM #16Originally Posted by jeffc
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