My first cycle & post, please provide feedback

[vonner]

Hi All,

I have been getting trained by a personal trainer whom has disappeared on me for 2 weeks now and I don’t know how to proceed. Basically he was directing me with everything and I never asked any questions (I know, please spare me the grief). Also any recommendations you may have as to how I should be proceeding (I’m currently @ week 23), can I continue this 3rd cycle, if so should I take any Nolvadex right now as I took it after the 1st cycle finished?

Week 1-10 (complete)
Sustanon : 750mg
Trenbolone : 300mg

Week 11-12 (complete)
Nolvadex: 20mg / day

Week 10-22 (complete)
Testoviron : 750mg / week
Deca : 750mg / week
Anadrol : 120mg / day
HCG : 500 iu/ week

Week 23 (on week 1, planning on 16)
Test-E: 1000mg / week
EQ: 500mg / week
HCG: 500iu / week


Please see attached for my current before/after picture (140lbs to 180lbs). I'm 24years old, 5"10, I eat well, sleep well, train hard, take this very seriously, but my knowledge of the juicing is very limited as I have been relying on my personal trainer’s advice, I'm looking to learn not be bashed on.

I thank you all for your comments/support

[Faceless Rider]

man Id say start pct nolvadex 40/40/20/20 and clomid 100/100/50/50 and save the rest of the gear for later. Great gains but I don't see it getting any better this cycle. More experienced member will chime in shortly

[Capebuffalo]

Am I to understand so far to date you have run a 23 week cycle and are continuing with 16 more weeks?

[Brohim]

bro most cycles are 10 week's. Sounds like you did two cycles back to back. I would get some HCG and some clomid and stop the roid injection's. Continue HCG for 2 weeks (even use higher doses) and then start clomid/nolva.

Or you could do 100mg/week test for a few weeks and let that deca get cleared out then start PCT> Good luck

[Judah]

Hi All,

I have been getting trained by a personal trainer whom has disappeared on me for 2 weeks now and I don’t know how to proceed. Basically he was directing me with everything and I never asked any questions (I know, please spare me the grief). Also any recommendations you may have as to how I should be proceeding (I’m currently @ week 23), can I continue this 3rd cycle, if so should I take any Nolvadex right now as I took it after the 1st cycle finished?

Week 1-10 (complete)
Sustanon : 750mg
Trenbolone : 300mg

Week 11-12 (complete)
Nolvadex: 20mg / day

Week 10-22 (complete)
Testoviron : 750mg / week
Deca : 750mg / week
Anadrol : 120mg / day
HCG : 500 iu/ week

Week 23 (on week 1, planning on 16)
Test-E: 1000mg / week
EQ: 500mg / week
HCG: 500iu / week


Please see attached for my current before/after picture (140lbs to 180lbs). I'm 24years old, 5"10, I eat well, sleep well, train hard, take this very seriously, but my knowledge of the juicing is very limited as I have been relying on my personal trainer’s advice, I'm looking to learn not be bashed on.

I thank you all for your comments/support

Wow that guy had balls putting you on that cycle...or I should say 3 cycles back to back. FYI, most veterans will tell you your first cycle should be Test only for 10-14 weeks. And not to cycle again for 6 months to a year. You can see the big difference between that and what you did?

Your going to be fine but, Stop your cycle now. Go get blood work done now.

Run 500iu HCG ED starting now, for 14 days.

On day 14 start your Nolva 40/40/20/20 and Clomid 100/100/50/50.

You will be fine, but you need to get off, see what gains you cqn keep while off. Save you test and eg, Stay off for 6 months to a year.

[< <Samson> >]

That is one beast of a cycle, for insane results. It almost looks like your bi's have doubled in size.


How you want to treat this is up to you. Either stop now and hit a good PCT (Clomid and Nolva) I would run the Clomid @ 100/50/50/50(clomid sucks) and Nolva @ 40/40/20/20

Or - - - Get juiced to the max, but prepare for possible consequences. I am still against the idea of year round juicing and would strongly recommend option1.

[vonner]

That is what i have been instructed to do before he took off yes, then "cruise on 500mg test/week" for a lil while.

[vonner]

If i choose to continue, should i up the HCG doses, should i take any nolva right now as the deca cycle just finished, etc, ?

*Note as per the chart above, i have been taking HCG since the deca cycle started - 500iu / week

[< <Samson> >]

That is what i have been instructed to do before he took off yes, then "cruise on 500mg test/week" for a lil while.

Wow, cruise on 500mg a week of test. . . That is nuts.

Since most "beginner" cycles consist of about 500mg a week of test.


Do you understand what this most likely will cause? Not, talking shit here. . . . But, I don't think you want to go this route.

[Judah]

That is what i have been instructed to do before he took off yes, then "cruise on 500mg test/week" for a lil while.

500mg sounds a bit high for criusing. I think you can cruise on half that.

Have you had any blood work done yet?

[vonner]

I did not know any of this, or what it would cause which is why i'm raising the questions..

So you are completely against finishing the last cycle? before PCT

[vonner]

Never in my life... I will look into that shortly

[< <Samson> >]

So you are completely against finishing the last cycle? before PCT

I am, these are very heavy non beginner cycles. Also, being shut down this long will make your recovery much harsher and longer. But, maybe the HCG helped.

That's why most guys on here(unless they are on for life) run short cycles(8-10 weeks) to help with recovery.

A-Bombs at that dosage and length. . . Ouch. . . . Get some blood work and your liver checked.

[Capebuffalo]

Please stop. Start a pct consisting of novla and clomid. 6 weeks

[< <Samson> >]

Start a pct consisting of novla and clomid. 6 weeks

6 weeks of Clomid sounds quite harsh. He'll be crying by week 4.

[vonner]

Let's say i stop the EQ entirely and take a break, i do the PCT as recommended above, can i still cruise on the test, i don't wanna lose my gains right now (it's summer, comon lol)

[< <Samson> >]

Let's say i stop the EQ entirely and take a break, i do the PCT as recommended above, can i still cruise on the test, i don't wanna lose my gains right now (it's summer, comon lol)

You can, but that would not be even close to be considered coming off.

[Capebuffalo]

23 week cycle. No ai. Cruising @ 500mg. Id do 6 weeks and probably do 5000 ius of hcg every 4 days for a total of 15,000 total ius. That's me though.

[Permabulk]

Please stop. Start a pct consisting of novla and clomid. 6 weeks

This. You need:

Week 1 - 6 Nolvadex 20 mg/day

Week 1 - 6 Clomid 150 mg days - 1 - 3
100 mg days - 4 - 7
50 mg weeks 2 - 6

Week 1 - 6 HCG 250 iu E4D


Vets, Does that look right?

[Capebuffalo]

Let's say i stop the EQ entirely and take a break, i do the PCT as recommended above, can i still cruise on the test, i don't wanna lose my gains right now (it's summer, comon lol)

You miss the point of pct if you think you can continue to run test with it. Obvious your not going to stop in the near future.

[vonner]

just asking/learning, i suppose i missed the point

[Capebuffalo]

Pct is POST cycle therapy . That means you come off everything. Wait the appropriate time for the compounds you were taking and start pct. to get your body restarted.

[Capebuffalo]

Please read this. Maybe it will help you understand what you have done to your body

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UAWliol5nTo

[Capebuffalo]

And this

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...-do-pct-thread

[Trying-Hard]

It amazes me that people who look like they have trained for 1 total month in their life get on steroids to get bigger without having anything else in check. Anyways, what's done is done and can only move forward from this point forward.

My suggestion to you is to listen to any and all members that have the title "knowledgeable member" under their screen-name. I am assuming they have this title for a reason.

Good-luck!