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    Post Need instructions for first cycle

    Hi folks

    About Me:
    >Male
    >21
    >Indian
    >66kgs/145.5lbs
    >5 Feet 4 Inch

    What's Wrong with me:
    >Low bone density
    >almost 0 muscles
    >tummy(can't even look at my dick)
    >totally skinny
    >All time tired

    What I want:
    >Good bone density(atleast in forearm)
    >to reduce all body fats(atleast tummy and face fat)
    >want abs(can feel upper abs)
    >increase in body muscles with cuts

    Diseases:
    >Suffered from major Liver disease in childhood
    >still minor liver issue occurs every 8-10 months which can be easily cured by otc

    Preferred steroid (after my 2-3 months research):
    >Testosterone
    >Trenbolone
    >Winstrol
    >Dianabol
    >Oxandrolone

    Preferred Diet:
    >~100g protein(80-90g from supplement)
    >100-200g Carbohydrates(Mostly Rice, Wheat)
    >Multivitamins supplement

    Why I am here:
    >Needs Expert guides and suggestion

    What my doctor says:
    Oh! c'mon man, do yoga, keep faith in god, miracle will happens and it will make you like Tom Cruise(or even better), You are good(seriously?), go for Ayurveda treatment(are we really in 21st century?) and bla bla bla like other Indian doctors, They believe in Gods, Magics, Miracles and this is the only reason I am here.


    *Note:
    > Preferred oral cycles(injections fear, it really scares the shit out of me)
    > Please suggest AI, PCT and any others medicines to reduce the side effects of steroids .
    > If anything left/wrong in post, please inform me, will correct it asap
    > And please do not suggest me to avoid steroids , why? coz, I am 21 and haven't even kissed a girl in my whole life, can you imagine?

    Thanks Buddies, please help me
    Have a nice day
    Last edited by pksc; 06-18-2017 at 12:46 PM.

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    My First Cycle: Planning and Executing a Successful First Cycle
    Follow the link and read the entire thread until you understand it. Stay away from anything but testosterone on your first cycle.

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    Eat

    Eat

    Eat

    Eat

    Eat some more

    Eat even more.

    Do you work out?

    You want to eat only 100g protein, nearly all of that from supplements?!?!

    Post a photo of yourself please so we can advise further.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pksc View Post
    Hi folks

    About Me:
    >Male
    >21
    >Indian
    >66kgs/145.5lbs
    >5 Feet 4 Inch

    What's Wrong with me:
    >Low bone density
    >almost 0 muscles
    >tummy(can't even look at my dick)
    >totally skinny
    >All time tired

    What I want:
    >Good bone density(atleast in forearm)
    >to reduce all body fats(atleast tummy and face fat)
    >want abs(can feel upper abs)
    >increase in body muscles with cuts

    Diseases:
    >Suffered from major Liver disease in childhood
    >still minor liver issue occurs every 8-10 months which can be easily cured by otc

    Preferred steroid (after my 2-3 months research):
    >Testosterone
    >Trenbolone
    >Winstrol
    >Dianabol
    >Oxandrolone

    Preferred Diet:
    >~100g protein(80-90g from supplement)
    >100-200g Carbohydrates(Mostly Rice, Wheat)
    >Multivitamins supplement

    Why I am here:
    >Needs Expert guides and suggestion

    What my doctor says:
    Oh! c'mon man, do yoga, keep faith in god, miracle will happens and it will make you like Tom Cruise(or even better), You are good(seriously?), go for Ayurveda treatment(are we really in 21st century?) and bla bla bla like other Indian doctors, They believe in Gods, Magics, Miracles and this is the only reason I am here.


    *Note:
    > Preferred oral cycles(injections fear, it really scares the shit out of me)
    > Please suggest AI, PCT and any others medicines to reduce the side effects of steroids .
    > If anything left/wrong in post, please inform me, will correct it asap
    > And please do not suggest me to avoid steroids , why? coz, I am 21 and haven't even kissed a girl in my whole life, can you imagine?

    Thanks Buddies, please help me
    Have a nice day
    Just saw your age. Dont touch anything but food and weoghts as bib said. Ignore sil he is banned and keeps coming back. The guy is a loser.

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    My man I definitely advise against a cycle. I know it sucks seeing big guys everywhere but get in the gym and work hard for awhile and put on some mass, and then slowly cut after a few months. AAS are nothing to mess around with especially at 21 unless you wanna take a chance of being on trt. Even if you ignore all my advice and do a cycle ONLY do testosterone your first cycle. It would be crazy to do tren your first cycle. I would advise against any orals. You could try a prohormone because you said you're scared of needles but I still don't recommend it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Back In Black View Post
    Eat

    Eat

    Eat

    Eat

    Eat some more

    Eat even more.

    Do you work out?

    You want to eat only 100g protein, nearly all of that from supplements?!?!

    Post a photo of yourself please so we can advise further.
    This is as far as I've gotten so far. Based of the op, this is excellent advice. Eat! And as he asked, do you work out?

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    The fact that you suffered from major liver disease makes me think you should stay away from steroids , especially winstrol and dbol
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    Hey man, I could really use your help too. Do we go into the doctor to get blood values?

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    Hey Obs, I would like some advice as well. I am 30 yrs old. Healthy, 170 lbs after just losing 30 lbs. Just decided I need to get big. Hardly any muscle mass. Wanted to use dbol for first cycle. Would you advise I use testosterone first?

    I ordered all natural testosterone from amazon lol. Is that the same as the testosterone linked above?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Obspowerstroke View Post
    /anabolic -steroids -questions-answers/541167-my-first-cycle-planning-executing-successful-first-cycle.html[/URL]
    Follow the link and read the entire thread until you understand it. Stay away from anything but testosterone on your first cycle.
    Already did,

    for your second post: I really need this, check my photo in my last post

    Thanks

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    please look at this, I really need to reduce my tummy fat, I also did workout, but instead of losing, I gained lots of weight(due to carbs and protein supplement)

    I only want two thing in first cycle: For bulking and fat cutting.

    AI: Anastrozole(arimidex ), Is it for men?

    PCT: Tamoxifen and Clomiphen, is it for men?

    Do I need to take anything else on or after first cycle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VanHanswyk View Post
    Hey Obs, I would like some advice as well. I am 30 yrs old. Healthy, 170 lbs after just losing 30 lbs. Just decided I need to get big. Hardly any muscle mass. Wanted to use dbol for first cycle. Would you advise I use testosterone first?

    I ordered all natural testosterone from amazon lol. Is that the same as the testosterone linked above?
    Quote Originally Posted by pksc View Post
    Already did,

    for your second post: I really need this, check my photo in my last post

    Thanks
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    please look at this, I really need to reduce my tummy fat, I also did workout, but instead of losing, I gained lots of weight(due to carbs and protein supplement)

    I only want two thing in first cycle: For bulking and fat cutting.

    AI: Anastrozole(arimidex ), Is it for men?

    PCT: Tamoxifen and Clomiphen, is it for men?

    Do I need to take anything else on or after first cycle?
    If you are cycling you need bodyfat under 15% before ever starting. Otherwise you will be wasting you time for both puposes. Get lean then bulk and rinse and repeat.
    If you want to keep mass beyond your natural potential you need gear.
    It takes a long time to reach your natural potential.
    No one should cycle until 25 because it will disrupt your HPTA and hinder your potential.
    Never take anything but test for a first cycle at 500mgs or less. One of the sad things about juice is your body will return to a natural state once you stop supplementing with juice.
    If you are looking for a quick twenty pounds, you will watch it fade away as quickly as it came once you cease. Pct should consist of clomid/nolvadex (tamoximed) and you need an aromatase inhibitor (AI) and HCG for the duration of your cycle until the start of pct.
    My opinion on dbol is that dbol puts on ten pounds of water and makes you pumped for a workout. Testosterone is and always will be king, base, motherboard, homeland, primary bitch, and the only thing you touch first cycle.
    Orals are hard on your liver and overblown.

    All this info and more is in the" executing my first cycle" thread link i posted above.

    You need to read up on each compound required for a cycle (five of them) the first time. You need to be very educated on each compound and know the consequences of each and what its purpose is. Then you need to understand how to dose them.

    Before during and after cycle you need bloodwork.

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    Yes, I also want to loose my belly first then bulking, should I run Clen or Anavar or any much better?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pksc View Post
    Yes, I also want to loose my belly first then bulking, should I run Clen or Anavar or any much better?
    neither if you have had liver problems. you dont need steroids anyways at your current state.

    i see people almost everyday on this forum that are overweight and barely train looking for steroids thinking it's going to magically burn fat for them and put on a bunch of muscle..which is far from reality.

    Steroids dont help you burn more calories or lose fat, all they do is help preserve your muscle in a calorie deficit (while losing weight). you obviously dont have much muscle so there is no need to take steroids to preserve something you dont have yet. you also won't be putting on a bunch of muscle while losing weight no matter how many steroids you use. it would litterally be 100% pointless for someone like you to use steroids .

    Change your diet and try to shoot for 150+ g of protein from real food, maybe 25-50g from supplements/shakes only. Weigh yourself everyday and adjust your diet as needed along the way to lose weight.

    If you can't lose weight you need to either eat less or do more exercise, plain and simple.

    If you get your diet in check then you will be amazed by the results, its not just what you eat but how much and how you track your weight.

    Don't do something stupid and get no benefit from it my friend.

    Good luck
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