What's your favorite MMA fighter?

**Grappler_Mike** · 07-01-2004, 11:35 PM

Mine is Vanderlei Silva,man he is intense to watch!
His staredowns are insane!!

**ripsid** · 07-02-2004, 06:58 AM

Pretty hard to say...But guys who are technically sound and rounded are the ones I root for: Hughes, Cotoure, Belfort, Bas.... Then the guys that are just really angry...Baroni, Tito, Liddell...
There's one guy who's not fighting UFC that I've trained with (he fought Severn to a tie) he fights lower promotions, and the guy is just awesome: Pat stano
Respect and like most of them!

SID

**nickrizz** · 07-02-2004, 07:11 AM

i met frank shamrock and he was such a nice guy, real down to earth. he is def my fav.

**KAEW44** · 07-02-2004, 09:29 AM

BJ Penn has recently proven to be 'all he sais he is', i prefer matt hughes because i love slams, and quinton rampage jackson is the man after slamming Arona like that!! Slamming fighters rule!

**nickrizz** · 07-02-2004, 09:31 AM

Originally Posted by KAEW44

Slamming fighters rule!

they make it more fun to watch

**ripsid** · 07-02-2004, 09:38 AM

I think alot of the guys with the wrestling backgrounds are slammers'! Frye's awesome as well... anytime you have someone who can maneuver a throw or slam is awesome! When I spare I will always try to work a throw, or slam into it...it's better than a punch or a kick, you use the momentum generated by both your weights and you just smash em'! I want to spare now....!

SID

**ripsid** · 07-02-2004, 09:39 AM

Actually I should learn how to spell spar...! What a tool!

SID

**BOUNCER** · 07-02-2004, 09:50 AM

I've a soft spot for Ken and Frank Shamrock.

**nickrizz** · 07-02-2004, 10:01 AM

i just wish ken would stop shredding weight all the time, it makes him weaker.

**ripsid** · 07-02-2004, 10:06 AM

I think ken is torn, between not fight and fighting! He doesn't want to retire he still wants to fight...but he's not at the top of his game...I think he's torn. I saw him fight 3 years ago when he had his own promotion, Mega Fights, and physically he looked good he wasn't huge but he wasn't ripped. The fight seemed like a work, but talking to one my instructors who fought that night he said the guy came in with like 1 days notice and it was a legit tap, ankle lock i believe.

SID

**nickrizz** · 07-02-2004, 10:08 AM

he was a great fighter, but the ortiz thing was horrible to watch if you are a shamrock fan

**Mandigo** · 07-02-2004, 10:15 AM

All time fav. the legend.....ROYCE GRAZIE.He was one of the first he fought when there where no weight division and he is well the best of the best.

**H-BOL** · 07-04-2004, 06:13 PM

Emelienko Fedor!!

**KAEW44** · 07-05-2004, 12:59 AM

No one can argue that Fedor is simply the best, he has no emotions, no facial expressions..just business..walks in there and wins

**VIXI** · 07-05-2004, 03:43 AM

Ken Shamrock is my baby...I'd stalk him if I was crazy....poor thing actually tore his rotator cuff today...I'm so heart broken...wish I could make him feel better

**LeanMeOut** · 07-05-2004, 03:45 AM

BDTR

lol......

Nah my favorite has to be Shamrock as well. I love to watch the guy fight.... I wish he didn't have to get old. But he is still my all time favorite.

<<LMO>>

**VIXI** · 07-05-2004, 03:49 AM

you so get brownie points...

Originally Posted by LeanMeOut

BDTR

lol......

Nah my favorite has to be Shamrock as well. I love to watch the guy fight.... I wish he didn't have to get old. But he is still my all time favorite.

<<LMO>>

**BOUNCER** · 07-05-2004, 09:52 AM

Originally Posted by VIXI

you so get brownie points...

Hey, I said Shamrock as well!. Actually I think I might have said it first

**nickrizz** · 07-05-2004, 10:55 AM

i met his brother!!!!! vixi is that you in the pic (avatar)

**chicamahomico** · 07-05-2004, 11:29 AM

Vanderlei Silva or Mirko Cro-Cop. These two are the most exciting fighters IMO so they would get my vote.

**H-BOL** · 07-05-2004, 11:32 AM

fedor will never loose.. he is unstopable

**VIXI** · 07-05-2004, 02:25 PM

kudos to you...

Originally Posted by BOUNCER

Hey, I said Shamrock as well!. Actually I think I might have said it first

**VIXI** · 07-05-2004, 02:25 PM

kudos to you by association...

Originally Posted by nickrizz

i met his brother!!!!! vixi is that you in the pic (avatar)

**sp9** · 07-05-2004, 02:37 PM

Originally Posted by H-BOL

fedor will never loose.. he is unstopable

Can't wait to see if he wins the grand prix next month.

I like quinton after the last pride match he had. Gotta love a guy when he is being put into a triangle choke and he just blows it off by picking his opponent up over his head and thorws him so hard into the mat that he is instanly knocked out and gets 30-40 of his own stiches when the guy bounces off the mat and hits him in the face, oh wait a minute let me give you 2 quick punches in the face before the ref can physically get between me and you...hahaha

**sp9** · 07-05-2004, 02:38 PM

So many great skilled guys out there. The sport just keeps getting better, which means bigger audiences and bigger checks for the fighters.

**KAEW44** · 07-05-2004, 07:20 PM

it will be along time before mma fighters can be making boxing-like money, but its strange how its spreading really fast in the states but there are still no big ime sponsors that can help make events happen!
Japan will never have a problem because their main source is dream stage entertainment wich is a company that is extrmley profitable with or without Pride, so they can afford to keep the show going for a long time and let fighters make good money.
The UFC on the other hand is always running into big time money problems and giving fighters pay-cuts just because they can barely break even in every show. The UFC has great fighters and can give the opportunity for many more new faces to emerge if only there was a legit, big time sponsor!!

**chicamahomico** · 07-05-2004, 10:53 PM

I do not believe that MMA will ever be a $$ big event outside of Japan aside from the odd superfight or some special event. Look at boxing, the pay is the ****s outside of the top 10 heavyweight unless your name is Jones Jr or De LaHoya. Foreman probably makes more selling those grills in a year than all of the top 10 heavies put together. The average person, this is who sponsors and advertisers are looking to reach, is simply not into sports that consist entirely of physical violence.

Originally Posted by KAEW44

it will be along time before mma fighters can be making boxing-like money, but its strange how its spreading really fast in the states but there are still no big ime sponsors that can help make events happen!
Japan will never have a problem because their main source is dream stage entertainment wich is a company that is extrmley profitable with or without Pride, so they can afford to keep the show going for a long time and let fighters make good money.
The UFC on the other hand is always running into big time money problems and giving fighters pay-cuts just because they can barely break even in every show. The UFC has great fighters and can give the opportunity for many more new faces to emerge if only there was a legit, big time sponsor!!

**BOUNCER** · 07-06-2004, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by chicamahomico

I do not believe that MMA will ever be a $$ big event outside of Japan aside from the odd superfight or some special event. Look at boxing, the pay is the ****s outside of the top 10 heavyweight unless your name is Jones Jr or De LaHoya. Foreman probably makes more selling those grills in a year than all of the top 10 heavies put together. The average person, this is who sponsors and advertisers are looking to reach, is simply not into sports that consist entirely of physical violence.

Originally Posted by chicamahomico

physical violence.

And there's the problem, its promoted as a 'blood and guts' all out violent fight. We have the same problem in Europe with HUGE opposition to even allowing athletes to train for any kind of MMA. It IS a violent sport to Mr. Joe Average but we have to get away from packaging the whole deal as such.

**Sensational1** · 07-06-2004, 01:22 AM

Cro-Cop is where its at!

**zap2** · 07-06-2004, 02:58 AM

where do you see all these fights....On tv or in like a club?.... Cause i always look for them and i only seen half of one on tv and then another time there was a PPV show for UFC but i wasn't gonna pay 90 bucks to watch it

**BOUNCER** · 07-06-2004, 03:19 AM

90 BUCKS FOR A PAY PER VIEW?????????? are you serious?.

**zap2** · 07-06-2004, 03:24 AM

well i dunno if it was 90 but it was at least 69.99 this is Canadian dollars tho...

**zap2** · 07-06-2004, 03:27 AM

I just saw Bouncer's thread on internet places to find fights..... is sherdog a website? like sherdog.com?

**sp9** · 07-06-2004, 10:21 AM

I think i's about $20 for UFC here and $29.99 for Pride's heavy weight tournament. I get them on PPV, there are also businesses that pay to broadcast them. For example there is a bar at the University of Maryland called the cornerstone that paid for the right to display all the UFC fights.

Pride is where it's at. I think things will get better with all the PPV money rolling in. Anyone have a clue what the top guys in pride get paid?

**VIXI** · 07-06-2004, 01:30 PM

usually 30 also for ufc...did ya know Kimo just got popped for winny?...

Originally Posted by scottp999

I think i's about $20 for UFC here and $29.99 for Pride's heavy weight tournament. I get them on PPV, there are also businesses that pay to broadcast them. For example there is a bar at the University of Maryland called the cornerstone that paid for the right to display all the UFC fights.

Pride is where it's at. I think things will get better with all the PPV money rolling in. Anyone have a clue what the top guys in pride get paid?

**BOUNCER** · 07-06-2004, 05:55 PM

Yes;

http://www.mmanews.com/news/ufc/hea.../90976031.shtml

Originally Posted by VIXI

usually 30 also for ufc...did ya know Kimo just got popped for winny?...

**zap2** · 07-06-2004, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by nickrizz

vixi is that you in the pic (avatar)

Vixi im interested to...

PS: Bouncer: it says that the page can't be found for that link for me

**sp9** · 07-06-2004, 07:19 PM

http://www.mmanews.com/news/ufc/head...90976031.shtml

Kimo Fails UFC 48 Drug Test
Published by Matthew Boone on 07/04/2004 at 03:28 PM

Click Here To Discuss This News In The MMANews.com Forums!

According to Dave Meltzer of WrestlingObserver.com, Kimo Leopoldo failed his drug test for UFC 48: Payback.

Kimo, who was found with a similar agent as former UFC champion Tim Sylvia was found with earlier this year, will likely face a hefty suspension from the Nevada State Athletic Commission.

The other three fighters tested for UFC 48 include Ken Shamrock, Tim Sylvia, and Frank Mir, all passed their tests.

**sp9** · 07-06-2004, 07:21 PM

Originally Posted by VIXI

usually 30 also for ufc...did ya know Kimo just got popped for winny?...

Don't tell anyone but since I have had digital cable I have ordered about 5 fights in the last 5 months and never got billed for any.

Poor Kimo. I was so disappointed that fight was over quickly.

**zap2** · 07-06-2004, 07:26 PM

well now the page works for me hmm... when i click on bouncers link it doesn't work and scottp's does but they look like they are copied out the same.... maybe bouncer just isn't good enough? lol j/p man