Dorian Yates opinion on bulking up...

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-18-2005, 07:37 PM

I recently read Dorian Yates say that a 200 pound person will gain just as much muscle eating 3100 calories as he would eating 4000 calories...the additional 900 calories will only turn into fat...so he says you only need to eat 300 more calories than what it takes to maintain your bodyweight. any opinions on this? im not bulking right now im actually cutting but was just curious.

**rbuckle** · 12-18-2005, 08:34 PM

who knows?

**hardworker** · 12-18-2005, 08:35 PM

did you read that in FLEX?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-18-2005, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by hardworker

did you read that in FLEX?

si senor.

***Narkissos*** · 12-18-2005, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by hardworker

did you read that in FLEX?

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

si senor.

I'd take it with a grain of salt then

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-18-2005, 09:04 PM

Originally Posted by Narkissos

I'd take it with a grain of salt then

what does that mean? and um why would dorian lie about dieting? obviously they all lie about their AAS use but i dont see any reason to lie about dieting. thats the second time ive heard that "take it with salt"...is it supposed to be an insult?

**steve0** · 12-18-2005, 09:30 PM

no, Nark isnt bashing you he's just saying FLEX is full of shit, what you read cannot always be taken to heart, it all depens on how each persons body reacts to calories and foods, we all know someone that can eat whatever they whant and not gain weight and we all know someone that has to whatch evreything they do eat

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-18-2005, 10:15 PM

Originally Posted by steve0

no, Nark isnt bashing you he's just saying FLEX is full of shit, what you read cannot always be taken to heart, it all depens on how each persons body reacts to calories and foods, we all know someone that can eat whatever they whant and not gain weight and we all know someone that has to whatch evreything they do eat

yeah of course i would never go by what anything flex or m&f has to say but i figured some advice by dorian wouldnt be bad to follow...oh well...

**chest6** · 12-19-2005, 04:53 AM

Originally Posted by kaptainkeezy04

but i dont see any reason to lie about dieting.

U seen Ronnie's videos? Black eyed pea for every meal?

**Chemical King** · 12-19-2005, 06:15 AM

like these guys said, it just depends on ur body and genetics. I know sum dude who gains solid muscle mass just by thinking about it. OJ, but you get the point right ?

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-19-2005, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by chest6

U seen Ronnie's videos? Black eyed pea for every meal?

lol eating 4 meals a day at 300 pounds.

**j martini** · 12-21-2005, 05:01 PM

Dorians off season diet was apparantly about 4000cals to maintain a bodyweight of 300 pounds he also done cardio in the off season as he believed it was beneficial for growth.

I do agree with not allowing yourself to get fat while bulking, although calorie intake will vary from person to person.

**kaptainkeezy04** · 12-21-2005, 09:54 PM

Originally Posted by j martini

Dorians off season diet was apparantly about 4000cals to maintain a bodyweight of 300 pounds he also done cardio in the off season as he believed it was beneficial for growth.
I do agree with not allowing yourself to get fat while bulking, although calorie intake will vary from person to person.

i am a firm believer that cardio is beneficial for growth...being in good condition means a lower heart rate which means more blood flow to muscles during intense workouts.

**MarkyMark** · 12-22-2005, 06:13 PM

Hey brother,

Its really all about knowing your body ... Just start mixing it up .. different foods different calories and figure what your body does... Some people will have a very fast metab !!! and eat everything not bolted down and not gain much of anything ... with the many people i have trained I have had to learn over months sometimes what will make someone lose weight or gain weight ...

Good luck with everything pal ...

**jsimon** · 12-22-2005, 09:09 PM

yeah for sure......im gaining faster muscle now.... taking in 300g carbs then when i was taking in 400g cards. Im very happy my diet now. Some idiot at the gym told me 600g what a joke.