Thread: Once again cutting diet
12-01-2003, 08:10 PM #1
Once again cutting diet
As of today I'm 265 17%bf. I have been off cycle for some time. I am going to stay clean till next spring. I am trying to cut rapidly while not loosing too much muscle. If I can get to about 10-12%Bf by mid spring that would be great. The problem is everytime I cut with out gear I always waist too much muscle.
I'm not that happy with my pre-workout meal but I'm open for improvement anywhere. This is pretty much my base I've been mixing the meats around shrimp/steak/chicken from day to day. I hate non shelled fish so tuna isn't even an option. I'm thinking of maybe some salad somewhere too. Maybe every other day I'll replace lunch with a chicken or shrimp salad.
Cut it apart and make it better then put it back together
Water 2-3 gallons a day around 2-2.5 most of the time
6:00 30 min of cardio. Next week I'm upping to 45.
supplements 1 stacker2 (ECA) pre cardio
7:00 meal-1 1 cup of oats with spenda, 4 eggwhites and 1 whole egg scrambled
Supplements BCAA- Omega 3 Fish/Flax oil- Multi Vitamin
10:00 meal-2 Protein shake-Optimum
1:00 Meal-3 8oz Jumbo shrimp boiled and served in a Low Carb Wheat tortilla
supplements 1 stacker 2 (ECA)
4:00 meal-4 EAS low carb Protein bar
5:00 hit the weights
supplements 1 stacker2 (ECA) pre work out
6:00 PWO shake 44 grams of protein 40 grams of dextrose
7:30 PPWO meal 8oz chicken breast
10:00 22 more grams of protein Via protein shake before bed
Total Cals 1800
12-01-2003, 08:34 PM #2
at your size 1800 calories is fat too little, which leads to you losing muscle...i would keep the carbs around the same..add vegetables....green veggies are key to any cutting diet...low carbs and mostly fiber...i would take those 20 grams of carbs from the EAS bar and substitute with a low fat protein source and 4 cups of veggies. also you can add more fat using flax oil, nuts (not peanuts), and olive oil.
12-01-2003, 08:47 PM #3Originally Posted by bigsd67
12-01-2003, 08:53 PM #4
no prob...yea the liquid tastes like ****, but if you put it into ur late nite shake you wont taste it...or add it a teaspoon at a time throughout your meals..just make sure that you dont put in too many grams of fat for a high carb meal.....dollar for dollar the liquid is much better because you get 14 grams of fat with 6 grams of omega 3 compared to 1 gram in the pills.
on a side note take your weight and multiply by 12 and that is an AVERAGE number of calories you can consume and still lose weight. If you are losing more than 2lbs per week you are killing muscle. I eat 50% protein and vary carbs and fat depending on whether or not it's an off day....for a good diet check out www.******.com and search for t-dawg 2.0 and dont worry im not a marketing person for them.
Last edited by bigsd67; 12-01-2003 at 08:55 PM.
12-01-2003, 08:59 PM #5
I'm kinda thinking you need some PRE workout carbs as well. Something low in GI, but will give you a consistant boost of energy for your workout.
12-01-2003, 09:16 PM #6Originally Posted by bigsd67
BTW I've read the 2lbs a week thing before too. I'm used to 10. If I can only keep my muscle with 2 lbs a week I'll have to go back to cutting with gear to help keep muscle.
12-01-2003, 09:23 PM #7
well if you've been off for long enough then why the hell not..then you can stay at 1800 and let the gear keep your muscle.
12-01-2003, 11:54 PM #8Originally Posted by bigsd67
12-02-2003, 12:20 AM #9
Ron... those pretty yellow caps are calling you.... "take me... take me ron!" as they yell at you.
12-02-2003, 01:10 AM #10Originally Posted by bdtr
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12-02-2003, 09:31 AM #12
Yea bro you are my size you need around 3500 cals to lose weight and maint the muscle you already have. I have been cycling between 4200 -2500 and it works out very well. I have not lost any of my muscle size and my waist is steadly shrinking. in a few months the fina and prop are taking over
12-07-2003, 05:19 AM #13
Fire up the home-lab! That is what I am gearing up now! Put the finishing touches on it all befoe spring!
12-08-2003, 02:27 PM #14
1800kcal/day and clean...You said you wanted to keep your muscles right Ron?
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