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02-21-2013, 04:49 PM #81
Only thing I've found horrible about this is the ungodly heart burn.. Anyone have any magic tricks up their sleeves other than a bucket of tums?
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02-21-2013, 05:13 PM #82
Might try this:
http://www.armandhammer.com/solution...3/Antacid.aspx
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02-21-2013, 07:32 PM #87
Funny how we're all so different. I have horrible allergy issues, so I take a couple of prescription nasal sprays. These allergies usually give me severe headaches so I wind up taking a couple fiorecets a day. I also get heartburn when eating certain foods. I write this because these are all possible sides with cialis.I was nervous it would make things worse for me. Turns out that I've had the least amount of headaches, ever, since starting. Sinus issues are no worse and absolutely no heartburn. Weird.
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02-21-2013, 07:39 PM #88HRT
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Of the 3 PDE5i class compounds it is the most forgiving as 1) it is the weakest of the 3 and 2) it is the only PDE5i FDA approved for daily use due to its long half life.
It takes some men a week or so to get used to it but the body will acclimate and the great benefits will emerge.
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02-21-2013, 08:01 PM #89
Yea. Maybe that's why I have no issues. Started at 2.5/day, then 2.5. 2x/day, then 5mg. 2x/day. Hope you guys having issues stick with it to see if the sides subside.
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02-22-2013, 04:48 PM #91
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02-22-2013, 06:14 PM #94
Just spoke to a pretty knowledgeable friend at the health food store who told me that Cialis, even at 5 mgs twice a day, could cause Peyroine's Disease. Anyone have any insight on this ??
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02-22-2013, 06:29 PM #95
Hmmmm...I had to google that one. I read several things that stated cialis was used for guys with this. It's straight as an arrow. I'll report backshould any bending occur.
rob...I did fine at 5mg. Just better at 5 x 2/day. We'll see if I stay or go back down. Right now, It's kind of like a new toy that I'm enjoying a little too much.
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What your friend meant to say or you misunderstood is that in some men with Peyroines disease it may make it worse.
In fact, PDE5i's are commonly prescribed for men with Peryoines disease because ED is a common side effect of the tissue condition.
Here's a good easy and reliable read: http://www.urologicalcare.com/recons...onies-disease/
Here's the FDA approved drug safety information: http://www.cialis.com/Pages/side-effects.aspx?WT.srch=1
I don't see any mention of what your "health food store friend" said and never have I come across it in all my research on the drug.
All drugs NO MATTER WHAT have risks and we should all know that. But this drug has been used for years and is a proven safe and effective PDE5i that provides men with great health benefits.
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02-22-2013, 06:39 PM #97
Double post. Sorry
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02-22-2013, 06:53 PM #99
Something tells me you are correct, sir. I'll look into that, for sure.
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again, GD right on the money, started on 5mg of cialis at bed time, then tried 10mg, never went back. heartburn first week or so and cleared up.. im 57 and it is wonderful these last couple of years. for me if I did not use the overseas pharmacy I would be D.O.A. as my script from Doc wants $22 per 20mg!
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gd, would this protocol be good for simply vascularity? I'm 28 and don't need it for ed but the other benefits seem
great!
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Read through the thread and do some research...the benefits of a low dose PDE5i are far more reaching than for ED...but it's a nice benefit
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53 yrs old and part of TRT proticall
Howdy suprabob I am 53 and 100% disabled so I am on medicare and I use a medicare replacement policy due to my many issues I get a special replacement policy with $25.00 MD or GP Co-Pays and Specialist CO-Pays $35.00 and the ever present do nut hole .
You probably have better Insurance than me.
You need to read the many threads others have posted as th experts have reminded me to do and you will find your Dr. and Insurance is not always the most economicial way to go ?
I get my Cialis from a research company and HCG from a research company those 2 alone would put me in my do-nut hole prescription wise in addition to my other meds in lesss than 6 mths. lowtestosterone.com is less out of pocket money than going to a Dr. and the corner Drug store and the HCG will shock you if you have not already found this out as will Cialis at $4.00 per 5 mg at Wal-Greens ? Sooooooooooooo
Cialis @ $40.00 for a 60 day supply from my choice of research companies is the smart way to go, HCG goes on sale s I stock up or buy 5 5000 iu's vials cost when on sale with my discount is $18.00 for 1 5000 iu vial and I wait for the sales I get Testosterone Cypionate Script from my Dr. and I am only getting 10 mL 200 mg every 4 mths 1 mL EOW is the script from Dr. but this is legal and no laws broken and the most efficient way to go until I start at lowtestosterone.com the 2nd week in March
IMO all research companies are not created equal so if you use find one you like IMO stick with it !
I will put out a WARNING ! on the one I use pm me and I will give you the name and discount code if you wish again
WARNING !
The Cialis I get coes in a 60 mL bottle and the lable states 60 @ 30mg/mL in big letters and I am supposed to wear reading glasses so I did not read the small print , No biggie right ? Well I take .50 mL am and .50 mL pm and I have been doing this for 2 mths and ingesting a clear blue liquid that taste like Jauger ! Everything kewl right? Well I read the small print 3days ago and it stated shake well before each use and it turned milky as opposed to clear ? So I started shaking about 3 days ago and same dosage .50 mL am and pm well this morn about 4:00 am I was awoken by a throbbing monster under my bed sheet I mean a scary hit with a hammer and the hammer breaks not the monster ! You know the adds on TV that men joke about that state if you have an errection lasting over 4 hours contact your Dr. well I woke up around 4:00 am and at 8:00 I still had this errection so I did the next best thing to calling my Dr. I called a girl friend and 4 more hours later finally I got relief ! So with this being said and I am after the fact sore from the swelling and larger than normal size I stand behind my research company and I say as we have always been told read all instruction ! I think this is a side effect and even though painful a good side . I would have been able to handle if I had 2 girl friends this morning because the swelling was so swelled I could not take matters into my own hands ! PM me if you need liquid Cialis and for a 53 year old man I am backing off to .25 mL am and pm until I get a full time live-in female friend !Last edited by BuzzardMarinePumper; 02-25-2013 at 08:53 AM.
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02-24-2013, 03:26 AM #106
I just ordered some Cialis, this thread has covered some things that i have been experiencing while on TRT.
Curious, how quick does Cialis work? Does it take a while before you see and feel it's affect?
Thanks
Trace
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You got that right I have no idea how much I was not getting before I started shaking it but it was miniscul ! Now that I read to shake it I feel some of the sides ! Sweating , slight head ache , upset belly , but the other is to much to handle I am going to have to cut back on the mL to .20 mL am & pm and maybe cut back but IMO it hits you with in 12 hours of 1st oral intake ! I have not been to the gym since I started shaking ! I feel like a DA but I thought I would share this so others would not make the same mistake
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The size of the 10 mg is the same as the 20 mg. Problem is cutting it into 4 even pieces is difficult at best.
Better to go with the 10 mg and cut it once.
BTW, don't think it works? Look at my new AVI and my arms taken tonight 2 days from my last training session!!!
See what I mean...imagine what it's like in the gym...it's sic man!!!
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If you had to choose one between seligine vs cialis for wood/general health which would it be. I realize one increases dopamine and the other increases blood flow.
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The objectives of a PDE5i like Tadalafil and Selegiline are totally different.
One is used to increase NO the other is a neruo-effective anti aging drug.
There are posts in here about Selegiline that you can find.
But don't confuse the two for their purposes...they are different.
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02-24-2013, 11:59 PM #115Originally Posted by gdevine
Do you have a specific L-arginine per workout cocktail you use?
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02-25-2013, 02:48 AM #116
What do you think of the generic Cialis? There seems to be several out there and the reviews are questionable.
Do you think the liquid Cialis (ar-r ) is better than the generic pills?
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02-25-2013, 05:53 AM #117
hey GD Im 22.... Can i give it a try... all these benefits seem very tempting ?
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02-25-2013, 08:11 AM #119
i just started Friday!!!!!! lol, stuffs pretty cool!!
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