5 mg cialis 2x a day

**steroid.com 1** · 03-23-2013, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by devildog1967

it maybe good for pumps but my question is , does it have detrimental affects to the kidneys and liver ?

It's FDA approved for daily use.

**Papiriqui** · 03-25-2013, 12:42 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Typo. I meant L-Citruline.

A PDE5 Inhibitor increases NO in the body by suppressing the enzyme.

These two amino acids increase NO as well and are very synergistic.

You will see enhanced vascularity throughout your body, huge pumps in the gym and long after plus great EQ as well.

The three make for an amazing powerhouse effect.

Here's a good buy with both in one at th right dosage amounts when combined.

http://www.l-arginine.com/?gclid=CPm...FQTqnAod8TsAMQ

G the link you gave me here it supplies 5000mg arginine and 1000mg citruline, do you take this one full scoop or you divide it? You mentioned 1500mg of both originally or is it 1500 of each. Whats the deal LOL. Im a little confused just want to get it straight. Thanks!!

**THE HOGG** · 03-26-2013, 06:40 AM

I could use some clarification as well please. My pills are 500mg arg and 250 cit. So do I just take three at night to get to 1500 arg and be a little short on cit?

**steroid.com 1** · 03-26-2013, 07:17 AM

Some put the arg and cit in a ratio as you can see: 5000mg arginine and 1000mg citruline or 500 arginine and 250 citruline.

I buy them both in micronized powder bulk.

I take 1500 mg of both before bed, before training and after training along with bcaa's and Creatine.

It's what ever works for you.

**Papiriqui** · 03-26-2013, 07:39 AM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Some put the arg and cit in a ratio as you can see: 5000mg arginine and 1000mg citruline or 500 arginine and 250 citruline.

I buy them both in micronized powder bulk.

I take 1500 mg of both before bed, before training and after training along with bcaa's and Creatine.

It's what ever works for you.

Gotcha! Thanks!

**wannabeme** · 03-26-2013, 02:42 PM

I was wondering why my urologist I saw about 2 weeks ago was handing me samples of an alpha-1 blocker for my slight BPH (go pee 1x every middle of night, slight voiding issue) and not Cialis. Is it because, even though it is now FDA-approved for BPH, he probably knew my insurance wouldn't cover it for daily use? I had no idea at the time it could be used as a BPH treatment. I did, however, know that alpha-1 blockers can sometimes cause retrograde ejaculation and that was a huge turn off for me - I'll pee 1x a night, thanks. Who here has BPH and using Cialis? How much does it help? Thankfully I already have wood every morning at 41, and not a big "pump" guy, so the BPH would be the main benefit for me. I already drive my wife crazy wanting it all the time so the "other" effect might actually be non-ideal, but WAY better than retro.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-26-2013, 03:03 PM

I take 1 mg of Doxazosin (an alpha-1) blocker along with my 5 mg of Tadalafil twice daily (I have it all in another thread somewhere here). The combination of the PDE5i and the alpha-1 blocker is absolutely amazing and amplifies the effects of both.

In short, a low dose alpha-1 blocker relaxes the smooth muscle tissue in men; we have a lot of smooth muscle tissue on both the prostate and penis (corpus cavernosum).

Each drug works differently where one enhances vasiodialation (Tadalafil through the reduction of the PDE5 enzyme increasing NO) and Doxazosin by relaxing the smooth muscle tissue which allows more blood to flow into the tissue.

Erection quality is unsurpassed and muscle pumps and overall body vascularity stunning not discounting all the health benefits both drugs provide at these very low doses.

Quite the combo fellows

PS. I pee like a race horse...kid you not!

**wannabeme** · 03-26-2013, 03:39 PM

anyone take cialis as a monotherapy for BPH? GDevine, have you ever considered it?

**steroid.com 1** · 03-26-2013, 03:49 PM

Have I considered what...taking Cialis???

**Rusty11** · 03-26-2013, 03:54 PM

So far, no retrograde ejacs for me.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-26-2013, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Rusty11

So far, no retrograde ejacs for me.

Me neither using both co-administered.

**3day** · 03-26-2013, 04:07 PM

So glad i found this thread. I have been genetically cursed with BPH. My dad is actually forced to wear a catheter now just to urinate so this really intrigues me.

**wannabeme** · 03-26-2013, 04:54 PM

Yeah, without the alpha-1 blocker that is. I don't take anything for BPH now. But this whole thing is very intriguing and now I am thinking about trying it, and only it, for BPH...

**HD1** · 03-26-2013, 07:02 PM

Have you had any negative sides from using the Cialis Every Day? I was able to get it in 50 mg from an old source, would break it in two and take half. It worked well for three days but I started getting headaches and extremely bloodshot eyes with it. I am interested in the benefits the than for ED. Thanks for the input. Great thread!

**Rusty11** · 03-26-2013, 07:07 PM

Recommended daily dose is 5mg. Some of us do that, two times daily. At 25mg/day, not surprised you experienced headaches. Headaches are listed as a possible side effect. Regarding the benefits of a small daily dose, many are written within this thread.

**MuscleInk** · 03-26-2013, 07:33 PM

Originally Posted by HD1

Have you had any negative sides from using the Cialis Every Day? I was able to get it in 50 mg from an old source, would break it in two and take half. It worked well for three days but I started getting headaches and extremely bloodshot eyes with it. I am interested in the benefits the than for ED. Thanks for the input. Great thread!

25mg/day!?! That's ridiculous. At that dose you risk serious complications. Headaches are common and the blood shot eyes could be a precedent to ischemic optic neuropathy. Please do not use that dose daily!

Here's a link to a thread I posted a few weeks back discussing the nonerectogenic benefits of PDE5 inhibitors

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...s#.UVJLg9q9Kc0

MuscleInk

**HD1** · 03-26-2013, 07:38 PM

I wasn't taking the Cialis on a regular basis. I was only experimenting with it. I would take one 25 mg pill and the effects would last for three days. Before it was FDA approved in the US they called it the weekend pill in Europe. One pill would last you all weekend....LOL. I was also partying a lot during this time period and I found that the drinking alcohol made the sides worse. I will give the 5mg x 2 per day a try and see how it pans out. Thanks for the input!

**steroid.com 1** · 03-26-2013, 10:49 PM

Tadalafil when originally prescribed for high blood pressure and other cardiovascular conditions; the recommended daily doses was between 40 to 60 mg daily. That puts the 5 mg twice daily into perspective how low the dose really is..and safe to boot.

The low dose is good because some who have negative symptoms will eventually dissipate as the body just gets used to the drug...and it will.

Combine it with a low dose alpha-1 blocker like Doxazosin and the effects are amazing.

I pee like a race horse and my prostate is very happy and so is my wife

And if you like being vascular all the time and want to look impressive in the gym...give it a try and you will see.

**HD1** · 03-27-2013, 08:21 PM

Thanks for the input! I put a call in to my doc today. Do you think that the benefits would still be as strong if I tried just the Cialis 2 times per day without the Doxazosin? I haven't had any prostate issues and my last physical doc said it was still pea sized. I sent you an e-mail with a description of my TRT therapy and would welcome any suggestions that you have.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-27-2013, 11:08 PM

It's a matter of degrees; how much do you want.

5 mg of Tadalafil every 12 hours by itself is a very low dose no matter whose book you're reading and you will get the effects you are looking for...it's a fact.

Add in 1500 mg of amino acids like L-Citrulline and L-Arginine and the effect is significantly enhanced.

Add in a very tiny dose of Doxazosin and the effect is beyond amazing.

**Kalani9976** · 03-28-2013, 01:42 AM

so you are taking about 4500 mg of both a day?

Originally Posted by gdevine

Some put the arg and cit in a ratio as you can see: 5000mg arginine and 1000mg citruline or 500 arginine and 250 citruline.

I buy them both in micronized powder bulk.

I take 1500 mg of both before bed, before training and after training along with bcaa's and Creatine.

It's what ever works for you.

**Moparman** · 03-28-2013, 07:04 AM

I read doxazosin raises your risk for cardiovascular disease and congenital heart failure by 25%

**steroid.com 1** · 03-28-2013, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by Moparman

I read doxazosin raises your risk for cardiovascular disease and congenital heart failure by 25%

Not at the very low dose of 1 mg twice daily.

There's not one drug, prescribed or OTC, that doesn't have a risk associated with it...not one.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-28-2013, 09:28 AM

Originally Posted by Kalani9976

so you are taking about 4500 mg of both a day?

Yes, before bed, in the morning and afternoon.

**HD1** · 03-28-2013, 02:48 PM

Do you have any of these sides based off of the dose that you are taking?:

Doxazosin may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be alert.

To prevent dizziness, avoid standing for long periods of time or becoming overheated during exercise and in hot weather.

Avoid getting up too fast from a sitting or lying position, or you may feel dizzy. Get up slowly and steady yourself to prevent a fall.

Drinking alcohol can increase certain side effects of doxazosin.

**HD1** · 03-28-2013, 09:26 PM

I ordered L-arginine Plus today along with 10mg Cialis to compete my HRT. I am a little weary of adding the Doxazosin after researching it more. Hopefully I will get what I am looking for out of the 2 x 5 mg of Cialis ED and the 5,000 mg L-arginine -- 1,000 mg L-citrulline mix ED. The L-arginine Plus also contains 2500 IUs of D3 which my levels were low as well.

**Rusty11** · 03-28-2013, 09:45 PM

Are you planning on taking it all in one serving or two, 1/2 servings?

**HD1** · 03-28-2013, 10:25 PM

The Cialis in two half servings. The L-arginine Plus in one. I am also running test C 400 mg per wk, Deca 200mg per wk, hCG 250 IU MWF and HGH 3 IU EOD. I have psoriasis and I have tried virtually everything to treat it including Enbrel and Humira (which about killed me) and I have yet to find anything that suppresses my psoriasis better than deca. I plan on having my blood panels done again in a month to see how my test and Vitamin D levels respond.

**Rusty11** · 03-28-2013, 10:30 PM

Cool. I've had my finger on the button, but haven't ordered the L-arginine plus yet. Went to a couple stores. No luck. Let me know how it works for you. Thanks! 2-5mg cialis is doing wonders for me. Good luck.

**HD1** · 03-28-2013, 10:56 PM

I will keep you posted. I just started the test C, Deca , Hgh and hCG this week. I am waiting on the Cialis and L-arginine plus to come in. Hopefully both will be here by the beginning of next week. I ordered the L-arginine plus from the site that Papirigui posted earlier in this thread. I figured that it was worth $40.00 to give it a try for a month. The addition of the D3 helped me pull the trigger as well.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-29-2013, 11:03 AM

Originally Posted by HD1

Do you have any of these sides based off of the dose that you are taking?:

Doxazosin may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be alert.

To prevent dizziness, avoid standing for long periods of time or becoming overheated during exercise and in hot weather.

Avoid getting up too fast from a sitting or lying position, or you may feel dizzy. Get up slowly and steady yourself to prevent a fall.

Drinking alcohol can increase certain side effects of doxazosin.

Nope.

**kruno1970** · 03-29-2013, 09:31 PM

Great info on this post. Ordered the liquid tadalafil form arr 2-weeks ago and the product is sitting in customs for 10-days (Canada). Any one else in Canada have this problem getting peptides from our sponsor or any where else?

**junk2222yard** · 03-30-2013, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by kruno1970

Great info on this post. Ordered the liquid tadalafil form arr 2-weeks ago and the product is sitting in customs for 10-days (Canada). Any one else in Canada have this problem getting peptides from our sponsor or any where else?

I would start another thread with this question... it is kind of buried here in this huge cialis thread. (I am interested in the answer, and if you have customs sieze something you can still claim it?)

**junk2222yard** · 03-30-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by HD1

I am a little weary of adding the Doxazosin after researching it more.

I am with you on this, and reading up myself. It does look a little scary from what I am finding.

**steroid.com 1** · 03-30-2013, 03:17 PM

Originally Posted by junk2222yard

I am with you on this, and reading up myself. It does look a little scary from what I am finding.

I will say it again; at the very low dose that is required to get the needed effect it's safe...well, as safe as any drug that is.

My Doctor prescribes it along with Cialis at the recommended dosage as does Dr. Crisler if that makes you feel any different about it.

**Indymuscleguy** · 03-30-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

It's a matter of degrees; how much do you want.

5 mg of Tadalafil every 12 hours by itself is a very low dose no matter whose book you're reading and you will get the effects you are looking for...it's a fact.

Add in 1500 mg of amino acids like L-Citrulline and L-Arginine and the effect is significantly enhanced.

Add in a very tiny dose of Doxazosin and the effect is beyond amazing.

I'm going to try this. Is Doxazosin available from research chem sites like ar-r under a generic name?

**steroid.com 1** · 03-30-2013, 03:25 PM

Pharmacy.

Send me an IM with your email address and I will point you in the right direction.

1 mg of Doxazosin with 5 mg of Tadalafil = impressive results!!!

**kelkel** · 03-30-2013, 05:44 PM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Not at the very low dose of 1 mg twice daily.

There's not one drug, prescribed or OTC, that doesn't have a risk associated with it...not one.

And that includes most every vitamin. I've said this before here but if you read the full warnings for vitamin C you may not take it. Also if aspirin came out today it would be prescription only.....

**cornfedboy2000** · 03-30-2013, 07:25 PM

On a side note, my orthopedic surgeon, my micro vascular surgeon, and the doctor that did my pre surgery physical last week like the idea that I'm doing the 5mg twice a day... They feel that it'll only help with blood flow etc, great news.

**Papiriqui** · 03-31-2013, 08:51 AM

Originally Posted by gdevine

Pharmacy.

Send me an IM with your email address and I will point you in the right direction.

1 mg of Doxazosin with 5 mg of Tadalafil = impressive results!!!

GD how would one go about talking to a Doc to get a rx for this?? Or even Tadalafil? I am currently using arr but wouldnt mind doing the real thing.