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03-31-2013, 09:25 AM #241HRT
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Educate yourself on the use of both drugs at these low doses and the subsequent health benefits. There is much our there on the health benefits of low daily dose of Tadalafil.
Doxazosin is a little bit harder to find. There are some good abstracts on it in pubmed.gov even coadministered with Tadalafil to improve ED in men who have very serious conditions that made an erection almost impossible. We're using Doxazosin off lable to you would need a Doc who is open minded and forward thinking. But you need to be prepared and ready to make the case.
Here are a few for you to get started:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22341603
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/22259736
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17906163
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15540759
(Note: Many of these studies use dosage amounts significantly higher than what we recommend here. Additionally, they test among some very sick men where most of us here are very healthy, two things to take into consideration when you read these abstracts.)
For me, I just use an an over seas pharmacy for both as they are much cheaper than here in the US and just an easy transaction.
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04-01-2013, 12:40 PM #242
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04-02-2013, 06:22 PM #243
Thanks gd. Finally got off my butt, ordered it, and received it. Just took my first dose. I did a lot of research and read great things. Not that your advice wasn't sufficient. Just wanted the "full picture". Thanks, bro!
Edit: just remembered that this thread is about cialis. Sorry to hijack.
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04-02-2013, 06:42 PM #244
I think this thread has evolved nicely... no hijacking in my opinion. All this info has been great! Let us know how it works out rusty
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04-02-2013, 07:00 PM #245
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04-02-2013, 07:08 PM #246
thanks man... my last surgery I was under for 8 hours and they rebuilt my foot with pieces of my quad. This time I'll only be under for 1.5 hours... it'll be like a teeth cleaning for me lol.
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04-04-2013, 09:44 AM #247New Member
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Anyone want to PM me the Indian pharm please. I was able to get a script from my doc but ofcourse the insurance wouldnt cover the cost...
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04-04-2013, 06:46 PM #248
I got a script from the doc and gave the 5mg 2x a day a try but it was to much for me. LOL! I am breaking the tablets in half and taking 2.5mg 2x a day with good results. Going to go back to 5 2x a day for vacation with the wife next week
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04-04-2013, 11:44 PM #249Junior Member
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I have been using 20mg cialis (from India) only for ED. It works well but I get headache and some blurry vision too, it was worse with V. Do you think the 10 mgs spit in two daily will ease the sides and still get the results I need? I can see where the benefit could come.
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04-05-2013, 07:10 AM #250HRT
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04-08-2013, 07:11 PM #251New Member
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The liquid Cia form the board sponsor is excellent, erections and libido are now strong and long lasting. I take 5MG of liquid Cia 2x a day - first dose at 10:00 am and last dose before bed around 10:00 pm.
I also take 25mg of DHEA 2x day; Pregnenolone 50 1x day; 1 scoop of L-arginine Plus in the morning. I purchased a 10MG bottle of PT-141 and took the first dose this past Friday night, the feeling was unexplainable.
Guys don't sleep on this stack. Thank you to all who've contributed to this thread with recommendations.
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04-08-2013, 07:31 PM #252HRT
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Thanks GD I will look into adding Doxazosin to the stack.
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04-09-2013, 06:54 PM #254HRT
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In this thread you will see that I take L-Arginine and L-Citrulline 1500 mg of each at the same time I take my 5 mg of Tadalafil twice daily. It enhances the effects and gives me crazy vascularity and excellent erection quality among all the other health benefits of the combination.
Read this:
http://www.ergo-log.com/l-citrulline...roblems.html#1
http://www.ergo-log.com/edicare.html
http://www.ergo-log.com/no.html
BTW, ergo-log is a great blog site where you can learn a ton if you are willing to study!
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04-10-2013, 12:44 AM #255HRT
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Look at my avi; don't think this stack works?
This is 10 hours outside of the gym and a leg day at that LOL!
Now think of the health benefits if you're over 40
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04-10-2013, 12:50 AM #256
You are hard to keep up with, with all the different supplements. I think I already take over 20 a day and a lot if not most of them have been recommended by you at one time or anther. lol
Care to put a list together of what you take on a daily basis and at the bottom maybe why for each one? Also if it matters what you take together and what to keep separate.
Thanks
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04-11-2013, 10:26 PM #257New Member
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04-12-2013, 11:32 PM #258
I have been on the Cialis 5mg two times a day w/L-Arginine 1500 mg and L-Citrulline 1500 mg for about 15 days now.
So far i have noticed.
Out of the Gym, within 30 minutes after taking a dose, the veins in my forearms start popping out like i have been doing wrist curls.
this last about 4-5 hours after each dose.
It's kind of a neat and new feeling because even with a low bodyfat I'm not very vascular, but this seems to be doing the trick.
In the Gym, I have noticed super pumps, especially in my arms and shoulders area... I keep finding myself shaking my arms and hands out in between sets.
Feels like I'm getting a lot of blood flow.. hmm.. maybe this is what Arnold feels like when he says he's "cumming"(pumping Iron reference) from working out lol
The other day at crossfit, I was just doing a few sets of warm up pullups and one of the Personal trainers pointed to me and said he wanted his biceps to do that..
I asked him what was he talking about.. He said "to look like they are popping out" I looked at my arms and just the pullups had given me a super pumped look.
In the Bedroom, I never had any libido problems before but what i do notice now is that I can get a erection a lot quicker, and the quality of the erection is stronger
and more consistent during sex.
Happy so far... I got a 60 day supply so I can only imagine it getting better.
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04-13-2013, 09:08 AM #259HRT
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^^^^Hate to say it...but...I told you so
It's a great stack and provides so many health benefits it's not even funny.
Happy for you Trace!
BTW, look at my forearm...
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04-13-2013, 09:13 AM #260HRT
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Damn, I just noticed this thread has over 8,000 views now.
Good stuff!!!
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04-13-2013, 11:17 AM #261
For good reason. It works!
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"It's human nature in a 'more is better' society full of a younger generation that expects instant gratification, then complain when they don't get it. The problem will get far worse before it gets better". ~ kelkel
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04-23-2013, 09:24 AM #263New Member
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I cant pm you.. it won't let me :S
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04-23-2013, 10:21 AM #264HRT
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04-29-2013, 11:18 PM #265Junior Member
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Yeah I don't even no how many posts I have yet? Not very many though!
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04-30-2013, 11:01 AM #267Associate Member
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Has anyone been able to tell much of a difference between 5mg per day and 10mg per day?
I was doing 5mg for 2 months with great results and upped my dose 9 days ago to 10mg per day. So far I can't tell any difference in erection quality, vascularity, muscle pumps, or blood pressure.
Curious to know other's experiences are going from 5mg to 10mg???
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04-30-2013, 12:33 PM #268
I take about 6 mg a day. And not even every day. I forget a lot of the time.
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04-30-2013, 01:04 PM #269HRT
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04-30-2013, 02:50 PM #270
I've been fighting with Oxford/Medco since Jan to get Cialis 5 mgs daily approved. Well, they have finally changed their tune and accepted it under treatment for BPH. My Doc just wants me on it, but did the prior authorization under BPH to get it covered. So those of you with Oxford/Medco just have your Doc do the prior authorization and you'll be G2G. I'm getting 3 months worth for about $50 via mail delivery which isnt too bad. My Doc wants to go this route & in 3 months try adding another 5 mgs/day to the prior authorization...
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04-30-2013, 02:59 PM #271HRT
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Nice APIs!
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04-30-2013, 06:31 PM #272New Member
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Gdevine, thanks for this post it answer some question that I can`t find so easy, please can you send me the info on how to get the 5mg cialis. Thanks.
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04-30-2013, 06:51 PM #273Junior Member
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Originally Posted by lovbyts
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04-30-2013, 07:31 PM #274HRT
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You guys new to this thread should see the one below; it was a result of this one...second generation if you will.
http://forums.steroid.com/hormone-re...pplements.html
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04-30-2013, 07:32 PM #275Associate Member
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04-30-2013, 07:36 PM #276HRT
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[QUOTE=gdevine;6520265]Are you taking anything else with it as noted in my thread above at the same time?
If you haven't see that thread I recommend you read it so you can see how to optimize the use of 5 mg of Tadalafil twice daily.[/QUOTE
Doxazosin is on my list of things to talk about with my doc next appointment. I have had to ease up on the arginine as it started to give me cold sores...maybe I will start taking it again along with lysene to try to fend off the cold sores.
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04-30-2013, 11:05 PM #278HRT
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[QUOTE=BallSak;6520425]If Arginine is causing flare up of cold sores try doubling up on L-Citrulline.
I take Lysene before bed as well...good stuff.
Remember, the off label use of Doxazosin won't be understood my most Docs and its effect on smooth muscle tissue. I had to let my Doc know about its effects when co-administered with Tadalafil. He trusts me enough that he tried it himself and agreed that the synergistic effects worked for him as well...now he prescribes to his patients as well who need it.
With Doxazosin is the smallest possible to get the desired effect. Usually 1 mg twice daily with the 5 mg of Tadalafil does the trick for most men.
There's even a TRT Doc here who we bring up his name a lot who is doing the same as well.
Patients learn from Docs and Docs (the good ones at least) learn from their patients
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04-30-2013, 11:16 PM #279New Member
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Just for clarification...do you need a script to order Tadalafil/Cialis from the sponsor site, or an overseas pharmacy?
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05-01-2013, 07:46 AM #280
Thanks, but what really pisses me off is that Cialis was approved for treatment of BPH by the FDA back in October of 2012 if not sooner. This means it's a legitimate use of the drug if considered medically necessary by your Doc. Oxford ignored this fact for over 6 months and refused to cover it for daily use even though it was FDA approved. Even now over 6 months later they still make you go through the trouble of getting a prior authorization in order for the med to be covered. Total crap. It's a shame what games these insurance firms will play just to save money...
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