GSP Vasoline alegations

[zimmy]

You guys hear about this yet?

[redz]

Yeah now theres talk of a rematch, Hopefully Pen comes in better shape but I think GSP still takes him again.

[yourmom]

Even if it was true, it never would have mattered, it never went to the mat. Penn threw in the towel from the ass beating he took. He quit before the fight started.

Gsp has already called him out...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bp7wjWAHgvE

[yourmom]

Heres what they are talking about...

Greased up 1

Greased up 2

Greased up 3

The judges were right there. I dont see anything that would have change the outcome of the fight.

[Knockout_Power]

Who made the original alligations? Some distraught fan? BJ's corner?

[yourmom]

In the wake of controversy surrounding the actions of Georges St. Pierre’s cornermen at UFC 94, B.J. Penn’s legal counsel has requested a “comprehensive investigation” from the Nevada State Athletic Commission on the second battle between the MMA superstars.

In a letter filed with the commission shortly after 5 p.m. on Tuesday, Penn’s lawyer, Raffi Nahabedian, said St. Pierre’s improper use of Vaseline during the fight prevented Penn from a fair contest and put him in a potentially dangerous situation.

“This illegal situation made it impossible for Mr. Penn to defend himself and unfairly exposed Mr. Penn to GSP’s ‘ground and pound’ strategy, which Mr. Penn extensively trained for and was fully prepared to perform against,” the letter states. “More importantly, by neutralizing Mr. Penn’s Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu abilities through the use of illegal and improper means, Mr. Penn was subjected to a life threatening and career ending environment; an environment that the Commission was formed to protect against.”

Penn spent much of the third and fourth rounds of their encounter on his back, as St. Pierre dealt out a vicious ground and pound attack. St. Pierre won the superfight after a ringside doctor examined Penn and the fighter's corner agreed that he should not continue following the end of the fourth round.

Between the second and third rounds, officials from the Nevada State Athletic Commission, including executive director Keith Kizer, approached St. Pierre’s corner after an commission inspector noticed that the welterweight champion’s cornerman, after applying Vaseline to his face, touched St. Pierre's shoulders and back. The officials subsequently wiped Georges St. Pierre down with a towel and checked him again between the third and fourth rounds.

At the post-fight press conference for the fight, UFC president Dana White condemned the actions of St. Pierre’s cornermen. St. Pierre’s chief second and trainer, Greg Jackson, on Sunday said a procedure meant to boost St. Pierre’s energy was misconstrued by commission officials and there was no intentional misuse of the lubricant.

In an interview with SI.com, St. Pierre steadfastly denied any charges he was cheating.

“I have nothing to hide,” he said. “I'm not even afraid to go into court and fight that.”

According to Nevada Athletic Commission regulation 467.598, “the excessive use of grease or any other foreign substance may not be used on the face or body of an unarmed combatant.”

Mr. Nahabedian said the letter was not a formal complaint, but a “request that the Commission will perform its duties to ensure that the activities of GSP and his agents are properly dealt with by the Commission.” Penn’s brother, J.D. Penn, on Sunday told Sherdog.com that a formal complaint would be filed with the commission on Monday.

Keith Kizer, Executive Director for the NSAC, said he has obtained a copy of the fight from the UFC featuring a camera dedicated to GSP’s corner between the first, second, and third rounds. A copy of Mr. Nahabedian’s letter will be sent to the “principal cornermen” of St. Pierre on Thursday. The cornermen will be given 20 days, from the time they receive the letter, to respond.

“This gives them more of a full opportunity to let them have their side of it as well,” he said.

Kizer said he and NSAC chairman Bill Brady will decide whether to pursue the matter at a commission meeting after reviewing the tape and the cornermen’s response. In theory, St. Pierre’s seconds could face disciplinary action if any impropriety is found. Rule 467.628 of the Nevada Athletic Code states that the commission “shall hold the chief second responsible for the conduct of the assistant seconds during the progress of the contest or exhibition.”

Penn’s camp has until Feb. 10 to file a formal complaint.

[seriousmass]

Yeah now theres talk of a rematch, Hopefully Pen comes in better shape but I think GSP still takes him again.

It just shows how much of a deuchebag Penn is. He is a lazy piece of crap. Yes he is an amazing fighter, but dedication?? HA. he trains 5 months out of the year? what a joke.

He got absolutely rocked in that fight. He is just using excuses, because he is trying to make up for his loud mouth.

he did too much sh**t talking before the fight... and now all his fans have turned on him, because a FRENCH canadian beat the crap out of him. If they fight again, I garuntee GSP would break his nose.

[xnotoriousx]

ok now, this is KIND of messed up. I can't tell you if the vasaline would have changed the outcome of this fight. However, I will say that I do remember gsp passing bj whenever he wanted to and I could see how being all greased up would help you do that. Man, if I had to put my money on a rematch, I have to say gsp even though I can't stand his ass.

[*RAGE*]

wow i cant believe it....that just blows my mind...

[illwillogical]

LMAO at playboy's pic up there!

[Ashop]

Heres what they are talking about...

Greased up 1

Greased up 2

Greased up 3

The judges were right there. I dont see anything that would have change the outcome of the fight.

I dont see anything that would change the outcome either.
GSP dominated and I beleive the vaseline made zero difference.

[WDMF]

That vasoline was just coming out of BJ's ass from the rape that was going on!

[Brown Ninja]

Heres what they are talking about...

Greased up 1

Greased up 2

Greased up 3

The judges were right there. I dont see anything that would have change the outcome of the fight.

Great Post on the videos. Thank you

[Brown Ninja]

This video highlights the times when GSP’s corner men would apply Vaseline (accidentally or not) to his back/shoulders/legs between rounds. Fights included GSP vs. Koscheck, Hughes 3, Serra 2, Fitch, & Penn 2.

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=EDQVFVQC

Good post as well....very interesting

[xnotoriousx]

the question is, is bj alright? I think he might have got killed if he went out in the 5th.

[NewMuscle83]

This is my favorite..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0HWh11avD8g

[Brown Ninja]

what stand point was that video trying to show?

[zimmy]

I dont see anything that would change the outcome either.
GSP dominated and I beleive the vaseline made zero difference.

He went for a double armbar but coudln't keep it because of the grease. Not saying he didn't loose the match...but he could have maybe won it. Besides...how do you push some one back with your legs so they can't hit you if they are a slippery mess?

[yourmom]

There is NO allegations of grease on the arm. 'Small amout on trap area'. I'm sure that Bj will run with this because he can't keep his mouth shut. Truth is Bj dosen't belong in this weight class, he isent stong enough to to hold someone like GSP. He will drop down 155 and always us this as an excuse.

[QuieTSToRM33]

Grease or no grease ... the outcome would've been the same.

GSP passed BJ's guard at will ... and BJ had no answer for it.

[BG]

Still shows GSP being shady, feeling he needs an edge. Takes away from his credibility, makes me want to see Alves step up and destroy him.

[ampx]

I want to see anderson silva fight gsp

[Knockout_Power]

Why BJ even deserves a shot at GSP is beyond me. Im not doubting his skill, he's a remarkable athelete but should he not have to at least prove himself @ 170 before being granted a shot? Give him a match vs. someone credible like Koschek, Fitch or Alves to see if he can hold his own @ 170 before being mauled by the champ. I know this made for more of a money grab, but seemed a bit unfair to the rest of the division. Yes, I thought BJ might have a "slight" chance of winning if he caught GSP in the stand up, but we all knew this was going to happen.

Everyone thought A.Silva didnt deserve a title shot when he moved up to 205, but BJ does when he moves up? The guy should except that he was outworked, out trained and then out classed. The only area he seems to be better at is running his mouth. So much for "one of the classiest fighters in the sport".

And, for the sake of argument, lets say the grease stopped him for executing a submission move. Is that ALL he trained for when stepping in the ring against a GSP? Any good (non arrogant) fighter knows he will need many tools to win a fight. Relying on a sub shows he really never had a credible answer for Georges.

Just my 2 cents, feel free to rip on me, but BJ went from being one of my favorite top 5 fighters to someone I dont want to see fight again unless its him being beaten... badly.

KP

[ampx]

Well sayed, should be a sports writer.

[BG]

Why BJ even deserves a shot at GSP is beyond me. Im not doubting his skill, he's a remarkable athelete but should he not have to at least prove himself @ 170 before being granted a shot? Give him a match vs. someone credible like Koschek, Fitch or Alves to see if he can hold his own @ 170 before being mauled by the champ. I know this made for more of a money grab, but seemed a bit unfair to the rest of the division. Yes, I thought BJ might have a "slight" chance of winning if he caught GSP in the stand up, but we all knew this was going to happen.

Everyone thought A.Silva didnt deserve a title shot when he moved up to 205, but BJ does when he moves up? The guy should except that he was outworked, out trained and then out classed. The only area he seems to be better at is running his mouth. So much for "one of the classiest fighters in the sport".

And, for the sake of argument, lets say the grease stopped him for executing a submission move. Is that ALL he trained for when stepping in the ring against a GSP? Any good (non arrogant) fighter knows he will need many tools to win a fight. Relying on a sub shows he really never had a credible answer for Georges.

Just my 2 cents, feel free to rip on me, but BJ went from being one of my favorite top 5 fighters to someone I dont want to see fight again unless its him being beaten... badly.

KP

Shit I couldnt agree with you more, BJ is done at 170, lets move on and like you said lets see AS get some big fights.

[Brown Ninja]

Bj is now going to jump to 205

[yourmom]

Bj is now going to jump to 205

WHAT?! Your kidding, right. He's going back down to 145/155 lbs.

[Brown Ninja]

He has fought that high before but I was kidding. He has fought Gracie and Machida at over 200.

[Brown Ninja]

In all honesty, short of Tito, BJ has been Machida's most difficult fight

[#1ComputerGeek]

It just shows how much of a deuchebag Penn is. He is a lazy piece of crap. Yes he is an amazing fighter, but dedication?? HA. he trains 5 months out of the year? what a joke.

He got absolutely rocked in that fight. He is just using excuses, because he is trying to make up for his loud mouth.

he did too much sh**t talking before the fight... and now all his fans have turned on him, because a FRENCH canadian beat the crap out of him. If they fight again, I garuntee GSP would break his nose.

This.

[Brown Ninja]

huh?

[*RAGE*]

This.

He said (this)

[Deltasaurus]

well GSP said they can fight again with Garder's on. read it on Sherdog

[Brown Ninja]

I hope gsp happy gilmores him with the rash gaurd and beats the shit out of fat boy again

[*RAGE*]

I would like to see another fight...gps has a lot more confidence and would school bj again...dont get me wrong I like bj...and someday i am going to make millions and sit on the beach and smoke weed and get drunk...

[yourmom]

After taking his mommy to court with him and after the court has chosen not to pursue it. BJ Penn continues to say there was greasing and now is speculating that GSP is taking Steroids ! Just fight again already!

http://www.rawvegas.tv/watch/bj-penn...ca433407755ba0

[Brown Ninja]

I hope Florian beats the shit out of him and puts a stop to all this

[Brown Ninja]

Jason Miller recently had some interesting quotes about GSP as well. Makes you wonder