Thread: Please Help ME!! with GYNO!!
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08-17-2004, 11:11 PM #1
Please Help ME!! with GYNO!!
Hey guys. I noticed the other day that my nipples were starting to get a bit sensitive and sore but though that there was no way i could get gyno. I am currently on a cycle of m1-t and 4-ad. Anyways my nolvadex just came yesterday and yesterday was my 1st day of the last week on my cycle. I talked to NSA and he said i should start in with the nolvadex right away! But today i was looking down and i noticed my nipples were sticking out!! O man this is kinda ****ty. I took 40 mg of the liquid nolva i got from phoenix labs. Does anyone know if i should take 40 mgs or more and for how long... Any help i would appreciate sooo much!! I really am getting freaked out if this doesnt go away
Thanks again
-bdub
this is what i was planning on doing
40 mgs for the rest of this week
20 mgs for the next 4 weeks
..with along with clomid...
300mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 100mg, 50mg ,50mg ,50mg ,50mg ,50mg 50mg, 50mg ,50mg ,50mg 50mg
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08-17-2004, 11:21 PM #2
BWAHAHAHAHA......it's funny you get Gyno from a drug that does not aromatize. Maybe estrogen rebound? Either way this is a classic example of why you should know what the hell your doing before you start. Plus the fact that your like 16 doesn't help either. Enjoy your bitch tits for the rest of your life
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08-17-2004, 11:26 PM #3Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
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08-17-2004, 11:27 PM #4Originally Posted by chrisAdams
You have no clue how necessary that was. I'll PM you I don't want to get into details here.
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08-17-2004, 11:28 PM #5Originally Posted by chrisAdams
NOT AT ALL!
Thanks Chris...and YES LMO 4-AD DOES aromatize...
B - GET on Nolva...I would go with 80 mgs to fight it....clomid then follows...GO SEE A DOC MAN!!
Good LuckLast edited by FmRommel; 08-17-2004 at 11:30 PM.
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08-17-2004, 11:32 PM #6Originally Posted by FmRommel
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08-17-2004, 11:36 PM #7
Just to add to this thread in case your not just being your drama queen self......
Take anything you can to get your test levels back up. Tribulus etc..... along with the nolva at @ 40mg and your clomid PCT. I want to see some pics of this....
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08-18-2004, 03:08 AM #8Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
4-ad => test => estradiol (not a lot of potential here though)
4-ad => 4-androstenedione => estradiol (more likely)
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08-17-2004, 11:35 PM #9Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
edit: thats really immature that your laughing at that, when you didnt even know 4-ad aromatized.Last edited by worldknown; 08-17-2004 at 11:37 PM.
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08-17-2004, 11:41 PM #10Originally Posted by worldknown
There is nothing to get in the middle of......I have spoken my mind.
As for maturity as opposed to my knowledge of a substance I don't see how the two relate. I just stated I have never heard that it aromatized and I would like to see a study. That's all...... they are two completely unrelated things.
I am not gona start with you because we are both Italian and stubborn as hell and like to fight as is
I just think lately BduBbz has been a drama queen.....
Tell him to post a pic of his nipple so we can see if he is having a problem or not.
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08-17-2004, 11:47 PM #11Originally Posted by LeanMeOut
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08-17-2004, 11:48 PM #12Originally Posted by worldknown
I offered my advice above....
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08-17-2004, 11:55 PM #13
i sitll dont understand how get gyno from 4-ad? like i saw it and im amazed, but still thats so awkward
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08-17-2004, 11:56 PM #14Originally Posted by worldknown
It's not only the 4-ad...... even without it you CAN get gyno from M1T via Estrogen Rebound. Just make sure he takes his ancillaries (upping the dose of nolva) and hopefully it will clear. How bad does it look so far? Explain what it looks like exactly
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08-17-2004, 11:58 PM #15
isnt the estrogen rebound only at the end of a cycle? i cant really explain cause i only saw it for a second.
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08-17-2004, 11:59 PM #16Originally Posted by worldknown
Ya it should happen at the end..... is he not done yet? This is startin to sound a bit strange
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08-18-2004, 12:43 AM #17
i am thinking that the m1t is producing an elevated progesterone level
just like deca and fina
ive heard a lot of people saying gyno from m1t and 1 test and even lactating nipples from raised prolactin and progesterone
and 4ad is still giving some estrogen
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08-18-2004, 08:16 AM #18
Im glad this makes u happy LMO. Maybe ill be immature and laugh at u when something bad happens. ok well here are b4 and afters and i ve taken 40 mg of nova for the past 2 days and it feels like they are subsiding.
1st 1 is before other 3 are after..Last edited by BduBbz; 08-18-2004 at 08:20 AM.
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08-18-2004, 08:22 AM #19
ps ... can i take *too much nolva*?? if not ill take 80 mgs a day
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08-18-2004, 08:24 AM #20Member
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you look totally completly fine to me.. am i missing something?
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08-18-2004, 09:00 AM #21AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by Try Me
Now, stop f*cking around w/hormones n sh*t at your age, get on a solid bulking diet, eat FOOD, and leave this sh*t alone.
Stressing over this crap is more catabolic than anything. If you think it f*cks with you, quit takin' the sh*t.
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08-18-2004, 01:42 PM #22Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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08-18-2004, 05:25 PM #23Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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08-18-2004, 05:27 PM #24AR Hall of Fame
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Originally Posted by iNvid
Not a flame, but judging by the pic he needs to train for about 89 more years before touching gear of any kind. If not, it's going to be nothing but a waste of time, energy, and gear.
Can't paint a house w/out the house!
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08-18-2004, 08:27 AM #25
I don't see any gyno............ do they hurt at all?
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08-18-2004, 08:35 AM #26
ya they are a *tad* sore just a bit nothin bad at all. but my nips are kinda puffy.
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08-18-2004, 08:50 AM #27
Then run nolva at 80mg ED until symptoms go away and then 20mg for the rest of that cycle.
You don't have gyno IMO but if they are itchy or sore that's a sign of it comming on.
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08-18-2004, 09:07 AM #28
preach swole...preach
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08-18-2004, 01:49 PM #29
nno gyno there to me.......... did u get a purple nurple from smoe one maybe? or soemtimes a shirt can make nips itchy and sore.. any lumps?
but I agree with swole.. theres no need to use any type of hormone at ur age.. you have enough hormones already
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08-18-2004, 02:56 PM #30
dude theres nothing there... do you know what gyno looks like?
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08-18-2004, 04:58 PM #31
Did I not call out the drama queen on this one??? Just like his Liquid Nolva or Clomid was bunk cause it took too long to get there. He is just looking for attention.
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08-18-2004, 05:02 PM #32AR Hall of Fame
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Save the drama 4 yo' momma!
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08-18-2004, 05:26 PM #33
I don't see why every is so mad at this kid. It's his body, let him fuk it up if he so desires.
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08-18-2004, 05:28 PM #34Originally Posted by PrairieDawg
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Originally Posted by PrairieDawg
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08-18-2004, 05:30 PM #36
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=117677
There's one link.....
Hold on let me find more
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08-18-2004, 05:31 PM #37Originally Posted by SwoleCat
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Originally Posted by PrairieDawg
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08-18-2004, 05:38 PM #39
More links for your entertainment:
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=118483
http://forums.anabolicreview.com/sho...d.php?t=114750
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08-18-2004, 05:40 PM #40AR Hall of Fame
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You're killin' me w/these links!
I knew when you were direct/straightforward at the beginning of this thread, there was good reason. You never go off on anyone that isn't entirely deserving.
"Two skinny kids arguing w/each other. What is A.R. coming to???"
Love that quote!!!!!!!
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