Failed at a Squat Max Today....very bad for the ego...

[RJstrong]

It's great to have that core strength but that is something that must be built up slowly...I still wear a belt on heavy lifts...Ive seen to many hernia's with heavy deads..It scares me not to...

very true... it does take some time to build up core strength... but over time as that strength grows this should enable you to go heavier w/o a belt as you pyramid up to your heavier sets... for example 3 years ago I started using a belt when I got to 415 in the squat rack... now I start using a belt at 595... the odd numbers come from the squat bar we use... it's a 55lbs. bar.

[GetinBig]

This is the third post in a row I've read that had unneccessary bashing and flaming. Sheesh I haven't been on this site in while... but **** alot around here aren't as supportive as they used to be. I remember when I first joined this site a long while back how every single topic would have 15 replys of guys giving advice and being just utterly supportive. I remember how rare it was for anyone to 'call someone out' or put them down and when it rarely did happened how so many people would jump on that individual and tell 'em to get lost because that is not what this board is about. What the hell happened? Maybe the added stress of christmas?

Anyways Arkansas maybe your head wasnt all into it. Get mad and get focussed, don't let those weights push you around. Maybe you were dehydrated or tired from the past exercises. Next workout try again. If you still dont get it then theres always the following week's workout. Or maybe you simply aren't ready for that much yet, just hang in there you'll lift it eventually.

I have no idea why messy_uk took offense to what was posted or why he decided to flame. Hopefully its not a habbit for him. Messy just remember what goes around comes around.

Good post bro.. And so true.

[RJstrong]

Good post bro.. And so true.

I know for me personally I take my lifting very serious and have set goals that I am very focused on... I agree that these off topic posts are usesless and juvenile at best... as long as I have been lifting 15+ years I feel I still have a lot to learn and I enjoy this site for the qaulity info. that it has... maybe some of these people involved in these useless pissing contests should spend more time in the gym and less time on their computer!!!

[*Narkissos*]

I was doing legs today, and my partner couldn't come, so I was just using the smith machine or whatever its called, instead of the squat rack. And I was doing What I thought I should be able to do for SURE. Since I was doing 585 like 4 times on the free squats, I thought my max would be around 635.

Sorry you had to crash bro but i hope you'll learn from it.

I was talking to a physiotherapist and we both agree..the smith machine isn't safer biomechanically.So i now avoid going there altogether.The physio i talked to injured his back doing the smith machine because of the restricted range of motion and alteration to the natural pressing movement.

When i don't have someone to spot me i carve about 10-20 pounds off my max squat.. and free-squat alone.Having failed in the bottom position several times..i've learnt how to get from under the bar in the bottom position safely.

Bottomline tho Alex... failing in the bottom shouldn't be ego-crushing...

[*Narkissos*]

Man I hate belts!!!

~SC~

Ditto.
I don't use 'em.
I find i squat heavier without 'em...they increase my intra-abdominal pressure a bit more than is comfortable.Squats and deadlifts are Heaven without 'em.

[goodtobeapimp]

"had my belt on good and tight"... this is most likely not the reason that you missed your 635 attempt... but may I suggest loosening your belt a notch... it is important to be able to push your abs against your belt while squating... expanding your stomach... if your belt is too tight this cannot happen.

My first thoughts exactly when I read this mess. GOOD piece of advice from a thread that totally went to s.h.i.t. Since everyone else is giving their thoughts too.

You can squat 635lbs? Thats not too bad bro considering you look tiny

ANYTIME you put down another person that posts a pic regardless of anything I think its childish. Even when people had da bull pics as their avatars I even stated in a thread that it was ridiculous. I've been on this board for a year now. If anyone reads my posts they know I NEVER flame anyone and just offer different opinions with all due respect to the members that do reply to them.

It all goes back to "if you don't have time to post something useful in a thread...don't waste your time posting". It's one thing when you have threads designed for jokes,laughter and they are fun and their are a lot of those which make me laugh. Sometimes it carries over and for what its worth if MESSY_UK was just another newbie EVERYONE in this thread would be saying what a piece of s.h.i.t he is for posting that....It shouldn't matter...and doesn't to me..I have nothing personal against ANYONE on this board and never will..

If someone posts something and asks for an HONEST critique of their body I admire the people that actually go out of their way to pinpoint their weaknesses,but if someone is just basically stating something that happened to them and what they were attempting and someone calls him tiny......Wtf??? These type of things shouldn't go on here...Regardless who knows who...Who's bigger then who..Who's an internet badass...Or who has the biggest internet d.i.c.k........JMO

[Juggernaut]

Why are you sorry you failed? A different movement than you're used to and could be your head wasn't into the game that day. Free weight I can push 415-430 for about 6-10 reps (depending on where my heads at and how good I feel, somedays I feel like I can move a ton, other days I don't even bother trying cause I know it's not going to happen) but when I do squats on a smith I can do a little more. However, when I lift with a smith machine I drop a good portion of the weight so I can go beyond parallel or start out of the hole.

So you didn't have a good lift.....let it go and hit again another day. If you can't lift what you planned or wanted too then drop the weight and see how many reps you can get at that weight next time.

[Elysium]

My first thoughts exactly when I read this mess. GOOD piece of advice from a thread that totally went to s.h.i.t. Since everyone else is giving their thoughts too.




ANYTIME you put down another person that posts a pic regardless of anything I think its childish. Even when people had da bull pics as their avatars I even stated in a thread that it was ridiculous. I've been on this board for a year now. If anyone reads my posts they know I NEVER flame anyone and just offer different opinions with all due respect to the members that do reply to them.

It all goes back to "if you don't have time to post something useful in a thread...don't waste your time posting". It's one thing when you have threads designed for jokes,laughter and they are fun and their are a lot of those which make me laugh. Sometimes it carries over and for what its worth if MESSY_UK was just another newbie EVERYONE in this thread would be saying what a piece of s.h.i.t he is for posting that....It shouldn't matter...and doesn't to me..I have nothing personal against ANYONE on this board and never will..

If someone posts something and asks for an HONEST critique of their body I admire the people that actually go out of their way to pinpoint their weaknesses,but if someone is just basically stating something that happened to them and what they were attempting and someone calls him tiny......Wtf??? These type of things shouldn't go on here...Regardless who knows who...Who's bigger then who..Who's an internet badass...Or who has the biggest internet d.i.c.k........JMO

Good post, slightly flawed however. You've found the quote button so i assume you saw the smile in there too. I was merely stating fact, his pictures look small, and for someone his size i was surprised he could lift, or attempt that type of weight. You'll also notice that im not the only one who has picked up on this

[goodtobeapimp]

Good post, slightly flawed however. You've found the quote button so i assume you saw the smile in there too. I was merely stating fact, his pictures look small, and for someone his size i was surprised he could lift, or attempt that type of weight. You'll also notice that im not the only one who has picked up on this

Fair enough. Too be honest I'm not going to say yay or nay about that situation. I will say if you have ever been around wpo events or nasa or any competitive organizations..I'm sure that guys squatting 600 raw weighing 160 pounds would really suprise you.

Also, I would also honestly question ANYONE'S depth on their squat,mainly because I've been around powerlifting for awhile and I realize there is a big difference between a competition squat and a gym squat....I'm sure Rjstrong,pheezer or powerlifter could back that up..

[RJstrong]

I got your back 100%!!! Tony Conyers WPO Lightweight champ 165lbs. 832lbs. squat... and he sinks 'em!!! Talk about a class guy He has been at all my FL meets... he had his son in my last meet... Southern States... state records across the board... I think his son is 13-14yrs. old... talk about good genetics.

[apocalypseRC51]

Ditto.
I don't use 'em.
I find i squat heavier without 'em...they increase my intra-abdominal pressure a bit more than is comfortable.Squats and deadlifts are Heaven without 'em.

I only use belts for deadlifts... never for squats.

[*Narkissos*]

I only use belts for deadlifts... never for squats.

I'd only use em for maybe an overhead press...and that's if i venture into the 200pound region where i know my little waist'll shake and shimmy

[*Narkissos*]

I've strayed off topic tho...failure aint bad Alex.Not learning from it is..Not using it to progress in the future is worse

[ArkansasAlex]

Fair enough. Too be honest I'm not going to say yay or nay about that situation. I will say if you have ever been around wpo events or nasa or any competitive organizations..I'm sure that guys squatting 600 raw weighing 160 pounds would really suprise you.

Also, I would also honestly question ANYONE'S depth on their squat,mainly because I've been around powerlifting for awhile and I realize there is a big difference between a competition squat and a gym squat....I'm sure Rjstrong,pheezer or powerlifter could back that up..

Yeah I dont go beyong parrarel. I am use to having a bench behind me and hitting my ass on it and then upward, thats how our basketball coach in high school made us do them, so I never venture lower then that.

Peace
Alex

[KGBnine]

ANYTIME you put down another person that posts a pic regardless of anything I think its childish. Even when people had da bull pics as their avatars I even stated in a thread that it was ridiculous. I've been on this board for a year now. If anyone reads my posts they know I NEVER flame anyone and just offer different opinions with all due respect to the members that do reply to them.

I had Dabull in my avatar for a while. He doesn't deserve any respect, so I could care less. But back to the topic. I only used a belt 1 time and like the others said, it really resticted my movement and flexablility.Never used one again.

[angelripper]

585 x4 is great

[Elysium]

lol whats with bumping old threads, what could you of possibly searched for to find this thread lol