I might join the US army.....

**decadbal** · 11-17-2005, 07:55 AM

snipers in the army take a long time to develop... and it isnt an entry level position.. you will go to iraq. most ppl wont care your arabic. good luck.. Rangers Lead the Way.

**xtinaunasty** · 11-17-2005, 10:01 AM

noooooooooooooooo!!! dont do it!!!!

**IronFreakX** · 11-17-2005, 10:04 AM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

noooooooooooooooo!!! dont do it!!!!

and why is that?

**xtinaunasty** · 11-17-2005, 10:10 AM

i know you're trying to be all hardcore and serve your country. but it isnt like the movies. if you join the army you can kiss your life goodbye. i dont mean you are going to die, i mean you will lose every bit of control you have over anything. they own you. they dont give a sh*t about you or your family.

**IronFreakX** · 11-17-2005, 10:14 AM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

i know you're trying to be all hardcore and serve your country. but it isnt like the movies. if you join the army you can kiss your life goodbye. i dont mean you are going to die, i mean you will lose every bit of control you have over anything. they own you. they dont give a sh*t about you or your family.

nothing new to me.....

Im perfectly fine with it all

**xtinaunasty** · 11-17-2005, 10:17 AM

fair enough...

if you're gonna join though, why not the air force?

**diponyou** · 11-17-2005, 02:00 PM

yup like me

**IronFreakX** · 11-17-2005, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

fair enough...

if you're gonna join though, why not the air force?

well after a couple o hours of reading...the marines is deff the way to go

"Mess with the best, Die like the rest"

**xtinaunasty** · 11-17-2005, 06:31 PM

you are hardcore!!

good luck and have fun

**Danbrooks2k** · 11-17-2005, 10:35 PM

as a gulf war vet and 7year soldier of the 101st abn division... I can say dont ****ing do it... go airforce and get a job you can use when you get out... wanna be stuck in law enforcement making 25k a year for the rest of your life????

well any combat arms MOS in the army or marines only leads to security, police work or other crap jobs...

you dont just ask to be a sniper, 1st you need to be part of either a ranger, or special forces, or even delta force unit to get sent to sniper school, the only exception is there are a few units that have a scout platoon and they get sniper training, usually not the real sniper school however.

being a sniper is a suck ass job, I went to a sniper training school in korea, again not the real DA sniper school at fort benning, but it was a pretty good one... and if you like wearing a soggy wet burlap covered suit for days at a time and sit in the rain, cold, snow or heat, with little sleep and little food looking for a target that probably will never show up... well if your into that then go for it... LOL

DUde seriously, combat units and ranger or SF units look cool on movies but until you have to carry 150lbs worth of gear for 25 miles you wont realize how much it sucks, 30 days out in the bush with no shower bad food and no gym or tanning... yeah that white skin, pores clogged with cammo grease paint and awfull smell will get you laid all right... CHICKs dig a guy in uniform, but they cant tell a ranger tab from a good conduct medal...

I wouldnt go back into the army for anything, I do webdesign from home, wake when I want, eat when i want, train when I want **** and sleep when I want... in the army you do what they say when they say to do it, I left a sergent E-5 almost got staff sergent and it was even worse than being a buck private, at least as a private you only got yelled at if u ****ed up... as an NCO you get yelled at when any of your 9 soldiers screws up...

hope I dispelled all the romance for ya there bro...

I am an army of one... yeah one ****ing underpaid jackass at the disposal of a even bigger jackass president!

**SwoleDave** · 11-18-2005, 12:47 AM

Originally Posted by Danbrooks2k

as a gulf war vet and 7year soldier of the 101st abn division... I can say dont ****ing do it... go airforce and get a job you can use when you get out... wanna be stuck in law enforcement making 25k a year for the rest of your life????

well any combat arms MOS in the army or marines only leads to security, police work or other crap jobs...

you dont just ask to be a sniper, 1st you need to be part of either a ranger, or special forces, or even delta force unit to get sent to sniper school, the only exception is there are a few units that have a scout platoon and they get sniper training, usually not the real sniper school however.

being a sniper is a suck ass job, I went to a sniper training school in korea, again not the real DA sniper school at fort benning, but it was a pretty good one... and if you like wearing a soggy wet burlap covered suit for days at a time and sit in the rain, cold, snow or heat, with little sleep and little food looking for a target that probably will never show up... well if your into that then go for it... LOL

DUde seriously, combat units and ranger or SF units look cool on movies but until you have to carry 150lbs worth of gear for 25 miles you wont realize how much it sucks, 30 days out in the bush with no shower bad food and no gym or tanning... yeah that white skin, pores clogged with cammo grease paint and awfull smell will get you laid all right... CHICKs dig a guy in uniform, but they cant tell a ranger tab from a good conduct medal...

I wouldnt go back into the army for anything, I do webdesign from home, wake when I want, eat when i want, train when I want **** and sleep when I want... in the army you do what they say when they say to do it, I left a sergent E-5 almost got staff sergent and it was even worse than being a buck private, at least as a private you only got yelled at if u ****ed up... as an NCO you get yelled at when any of your 9 soldiers screws up...

hope I dispelled all the romance for ya there bro...

I am an army of one... yeah one ****ing underpaid jackass at the disposal of a even bigger jackass president!

I disagree with most of this. The Marine Corps infantry made me the person I am today. As for jobs... if you want a job, go to ITT tech. You want to be in the military, get a combat arms MOS. And no, i'm not stuck in law enforcement making $25k a year.

**xtinaunasty** · 11-18-2005, 01:03 AM

SwoleDave...hahaha...has swolecat called you out for that yet?

**IronFreakX** · 11-18-2005, 03:21 AM

Originally Posted by Danbrooks2k

as a gulf war vet and 7year soldier of the 101st abn division... I can say dont ****ing do it... go airforce and get a job you can use when you get out... wanna be stuck in law enforcement making 25k a year for the rest of your life????

well any combat arms MOS in the army or marines only leads to security, police work or other crap jobs...

you dont just ask to be a sniper, 1st you need to be part of either a ranger, or special forces, or even delta force unit to get sent to sniper school, the only exception is there are a few units that have a scout platoon and they get sniper training, usually not the real sniper school however.

being a sniper is a suck ass job, I went to a sniper training school in korea, again not the real DA sniper school at fort benning, but it was a pretty good one... and if you like wearing a soggy wet burlap covered suit for days at a time and sit in the rain, cold, snow or heat, with little sleep and little food looking for a target that probably will never show up... well if your into that then go for it... LOL

DUde seriously, combat units and ranger or SF units look cool on movies but until you have to carry 150lbs worth of gear for 25 miles you wont realize how much it sucks, 30 days out in the bush with no shower bad food and no gym or tanning... yeah that white skin, pores clogged with cammo grease paint and awfull smell will get you laid all right... CHICKs dig a guy in uniform, but they cant tell a ranger tab from a good conduct medal...

I wouldnt go back into the army for anything, I do webdesign from home, wake when I want, eat when i want, train when I want **** and sleep when I want... in the army you do what they say when they say to do it, I left a sergent E-5 almost got staff sergent and it was even worse than being a buck private, at least as a private you only got yelled at if u ****ed up... as an NCO you get yelled at when any of your 9 soldiers screws up...

hope I dispelled all the romance for ya there bro...

I am an army of one... yeah one ****ing underpaid jackass at the disposal of a even bigger jackass president!

Fvck, no offense...but I would die out of boredom from doing smth like that...I cant see myself sittin on a desk

after being enlisted you can get BA or BS and join officer school....but i probably wont...Ill be enlisted in the marines...get a BA in photography , minor in journalism...and work with that after im too old to be in the marines...also people hiring Bgaurds love people with army experience esp marines...

fvck the glamour and the women....I dont give a shit about that(well i do but its not my 1st priority)...I WANNA GET FVCKING DIRTY....HOOORAH!!!

**IronFreakX** · 11-18-2005, 03:26 AM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

you are hardcore!!

good luck and have fun

ahh thnx babe

have fun in Cancun

**SwoleDave** · 11-18-2005, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by xtinaunasty

SwoleDave...hahaha...has swolecat called you out for that yet?

yeah...SC didnt actually have too many posts when i joined, so I really didnt think about it...

**alphaman** · 11-18-2005, 08:59 PM

Originally Posted by SwoleDave

yeah...SC didnt actually have too many posts when i joined, so I really didnt think about it...

What!? BS. He was "the diet guru" back then

**max2extreme** · 11-18-2005, 10:15 PM

if you join the military, you arent pretty much guarranteed to go to iraq. it highly depends on your service and your job.

military sniper school is a very hard course and not many people graduate.

blackwater...what do you mean 'do they have authority'?

GL!

**SwoleDave** · 11-18-2005, 11:20 PM

Originally Posted by alphaman

What!? BS. He was "the diet guru" back then

Well, i mean he went from like 3k posts last yr at this time to 19k posts now. thats what i mean by not so many posts. I didnt think of him when i made my SN.

And we arent related.

**Alex2** · 11-19-2005, 12:05 AM

Originally Posted by IronFreakX

-will the other nationality be a problem? (i wanna get rid of it neway but dunno if i can before im 21)

No, this is not a problem.

Since you speak both Arabic and English, why don't you consider joining the CIA?

**SwoleDave** · 11-19-2005, 12:28 AM

Originally Posted by Alex2

No, this is not a problem.

Since you speak both Arabic and English, why don't you consider joining the CIA?

You dont just join the CIA. It's a job. You need a degree, security clearance, etc.

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 12:34 AM

Originally Posted by max2extreme

if you join the military, you arent pretty much guarranteed to go to iraq. it highly depends on your service and your job.

military sniper school is a very hard course and not many people graduate.

blackwater...what do you mean 'do they have authority'?

GL!

theyre private rite?? neway Im intrested in the marines more...but thnx tho!!

You dont just join the CIA. It's a job. You need a degree, security clearance, etc.

exactly , and im not getting a degree in that..

**MASTER** · 11-19-2005, 07:36 AM

strange that i thought u were more the sort of guy that wud wna join the navy

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 07:51 AM

Originally Posted by JamesC

strange that i thought u were more the sort of guy that wud wna join the navy

SEMPER FI

**MASTER** · 11-19-2005, 07:52 AM

he he in the navy...

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 08:00 AM

fvck that in the marines...u get all the action , war , risk...etc... how can u not love that ?

**MASTER** · 11-19-2005, 08:02 AM

in the navy u can sail the seven seas tho!

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 08:06 AM

Originally Posted by JamesC

in the navy u can sail the seven seas tho!

who the hell would wanna do that?

**MASTER** · 11-19-2005, 08:07 AM

u of course!

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 08:11 AM

Originally Posted by JamesC

u of course!

Nah, Marines ALL THE WHEY

**MASTER** · 11-19-2005, 08:12 AM

it wud be a wheyst of time to hoin the marines

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by JamesC

it wud be a wheyst of time to hoin the marines

you fvcking flag-burner

JK

why?

**NotSmall** · 11-19-2005, 10:18 AM

IronFreakX - Dude, just go paintballing and get it outta ya system, that way when you get shot it only stings a little.

**IronFreakX** · 11-19-2005, 10:27 AM

Originally Posted by NotSmall

IronFreakX - Dude, just go paintballing and get it outta ya system, that way when you get shot it only stings a little.

The fun of it is just a bonus...not the real reason...so lay off the

comments

**NotSmall** · 11-19-2005, 10:28 AM

Originally Posted by IronFreakX

The fun of it is just a bonus...not the real reason...so lay off the

comments

Take it easy Tiger it was just a joke.

**Danbrooks2k** · 11-19-2005, 10:49 AM

Well I have to agree with dave, the infantry did make me who I am today and after the shit I went through lifes little problems seem very petty...

But I cant in good consious suggest the military to anyone at the moment... if you really want to go to iraq and get blown up then go for it, but after seeing another guy in my squad take a peice of shrapnel in the neck and bleed out right in front of me... well its an image you wont forget anytime soon...

after 7 years in the infantry did I also mention that I still have pain from countless hyperextended joints, shin splints, sprains and breaks...

being hard as nails is cool while you are doing it, but years later when you want a regular life you may have some regrets.

**n4529359** · 11-19-2005, 09:17 PM

companies like blackwater are not really acountable to anyone. in the new orleans disater they were deployed to keep law and order and given the power to arrest. there were storys coming out of there that the blackwater guys would fire in the general direction of gunshots and then go on with there bussines without stopping or anything , blackwater did not require any situation reports, nothing. don;t join blackwater there hated in iraq if u get caught they'll torture u bad. alot of them die too.

**n4529359** · 11-19-2005, 09:25 PM

iron freak
it does'ent sound like you have thought properly about what you want to do. the army is not fun and shit. think about whether u are ready to die if u are then join

**max2extreme** · 11-19-2005, 10:25 PM

What are you talking about N452.... Blackwater employees are highly trained, get things done, usually spec ops guys. Im not arguing they are hated in Iraq...but why you think that is?? cuz they are no nonsense and highly trained, highly experienced. Do you honestly know how many die that are in blackwater? ill wait for YOU to personally post that number. and then ill post your quote "a lot of them die too" along side that number.

Blackwater is highly respected, iron freak. Its another option for you if you want to be in the middle of action. And the plus side is, lets say you go to their academy, after that you are required to do an assignement with them, usually 6 months (from what ive read) and after that, you can continue working for them, going on assignments, or you can quit if you dont like it. unlike the military where you cant really quit.

**IronFreakX** · 11-20-2005, 01:23 AM

Originally Posted by n4529359

iron freak
it does'ent sound like you have thought properly about what you want to do. the army is not fun and shit. think about whether u are ready to die if u are then join

FUCK YEAH

**IronFreakX** · 11-20-2005, 01:27 AM

Originally Posted by max2extreme

What are you talking about N452.... Blackwater employees are highly trained, get things done, usually spec ops guys. Im not arguing they are hated in Iraq...but why you think that is?? cuz they are no nonsense and highly trained, highly experienced. Do you honestly know how many die that are in blackwater? ill wait for YOU to personally post that number. and then ill post your quote "a lot of them die too" along side that number.

Blackwater is highly respected, iron freak. Its another option for you if you want to be in the middle of action. And the plus side is, lets say you go to their academy, after that you are required to do an assignement with them, usually 6 months (from what ive read) and after that, you can continue working for them, going on assignments, or you can quit if you dont like it. unlike the military where you cant really quit.

U.S. Citizen, proof of citizenship required (copy of passport).
Applicants must agree to an exclusive services contract with Blackwater following graduation provided that a minimum amount of work is provided by Blackwater.
Applicants must, at a minimum, have completed a four year tour of duty in the Armed Forces or its equivalent as determined by the admissions review board.
Only those who were honorably discharged need apply.
Applicants will be required to pass a physical fitness test prior to admission.
Applicants may not exceed a Body Mass Index of 24.9% calculated using the National Institute of Health (NIH) formula.
Applicants must meet eligibility requirements for a top secret security clearance.
Blackwater does not discriminate on the basis of sex, origin, religious affiliation, etc.

So even if i wanted to join id still have to do some time....I still say the marines