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[Tren Bull]

i am running deca this cycle, and i wouldnt run deca/tren together since i am very prone to estro and so probably progesterone as well. i am stuggling with some hugely swollen nips right now, having to increase my anti-e dosage. need to get some nolvadex, just trying to find some i can afford AND trust to be good

if gyno is an issue than id suggest staying away from tren , probably deca too. instead of tren acetate, you could try winni depo. ive heard that can actually reverse gyno if combined with letro and preferably aromasin too

[Tren Bull]

what i tell u about smokin that shit .......... and ..... ill take some anavar as a bday present please

it was my last bowl i swear... at least for right now. we started quantum mechanics in my physics class so i need to be able to think

[QuieTSToRM33]

if gyno is an issue than id suggest staying away from tren, probably deca too. instead of tren acetate, you could try winni depo. ive heard that can actually reverse gyno if combined with letro and preferably aromasin too

tren /deca cause progestin gyno ......... which is diff from estrogen-related gyno ............ progestin gyno can be prevented with bromo

[Jimmya73]

yea thats one of the reasons i am ordering the winnie we talked about, it is supposed to be good for reducing shbg and estro slightly to i believe. i prolly will stay away from tren honestly, i wish they made a long estered winny!

[Tren Bull]

boys i gotta go, i gotta head to the gym and i gotta call and kick some one ass at the cell company they turned our phones off for no reason.

have a good workout bro. try not to hurt anyone when you lay the law down for the cell phone company

[Akrus423]

anybody know how bad the headaches are on tren ?

[Tren Bull]

anybody know how bad the headaches are on tren?

i never got head aches. tren made my lower back hurt like hell though

[Tren Bull]

yea thats one of the reasons i am ordering the winnie we talked about, it is supposed to be good for reducing shbg and estro slightly to i believe. i prolly will stay away from tren honestly, i wish they made a long estered winny!

yea that would be cool. having to shoot up eod is painful but doable. ed injections would really suck though

[Jimmya73]

tren/deca cause progestin gyno ......... which is diff from estrogen-related gyno ............ progestin gyno can be prevented with bromo

agreed quiet, but cant progestins also increase the negative effects of estrogen? and since i will always have a test in there which will aromatize, ive got to be careful. isnt letro a strong progestin binder like bromo??

[Akrus423]

i never got head aches. tren made my lower back hurt like hell though

does d-bol increase irritiability at 50mg or just a little?

[Tren Bull]

tren/deca cause progestin gyno ......... which is diff from estrogen-related gyno ............ progestin gyno can be prevented with bromo

yea but bromo is really harsh on your body. its a psycho med so god knows what it does to the chemical levels in your brain

[Jimmya73]

yea that would be cool. having to shoot up eod is painful but doable. ed injections would really suck though

honestly every injection is easier than the last, and with a 25 gauge pin its really not bad at all

[QuieTSToRM33]

yea that would be cool. having to shoot up eod is painful but doable. ed injections would really suck though

i think ED injections are awesome ...... sort of an extra motivational tool ........ and i personally believe that ED injects are cake ....... but ull never know till u try it

[Tren Bull]

does d-bol increase irritiability at 50mg or just a little?

haha yea 50 mgs dbol ed would cause some serious anger. ive never ran it that high though

[QuieTSToRM33]

yea but bromo is really harsh on your body. its a psycho med so god knows what it does to the chemical levels in your brain

so what u would recommend to someone who is running tren ???

[Jimmya73]

hold on, ill look in anabolics 2005, i wanna check on letro and progestin

[Akrus423]

haha yea 50 mgs dbol ed would cause some serious anger. ive never ran it that high though

Seriously or are u joking? I heard of people taking 100 5mg tabs a day with 1000 mg of testersterone a day too.

[QuieTSToRM33]

honestly every injection is easier than the last, and with a 25 gauge pin its really not bad at all

very true ........ i use 23 gauge and 1.5 inch

[Tren Bull]

i think ED injections are awesome ...... sort of an extra motivational tool ........ and i personally believe that ED injects are cake ....... but ull never know till u try it

i prefer to only shoot in my quads. ive done a few injections all in a row like that cause i was running prop and enanthate ... deca too i think. nothin is worse than having to stick a needle into your leg when your already limping from the sh_ty gear you shot up a day or two before.

[QuieTSToRM33]

Seriously or are u joking? I heard of people taking 100 5mg tabs a day with 1000 mg of testersterone a day too.

500mg DBOL ED !!! >.......... damn that must be rough

[Jimmya73]

nvm, no reference to letro and progestin

[Tren Bull]

Seriously or are u joking? I heard of people taking 100 5mg tabs a day with 1000 mg of testersterone a day too.

500 mgs dbol ed? are you sure about that? the standard dose is 30 mgs ed. ive heard of 100 mgs ed, but 500? thats like asking for a heart attack

[QuieTSToRM33]

i prefer to only shoot in my quads. ive done a few injections all in a row like that cause i was running prop and enanthate... deca too i think. nothin is worse than having to stick a needle into your leg when your already limping from the sh_ty gear you shot up a day or two before.

y dont u shoot other spots ......... shootin ED u really have to ....... i use a rotation of glutes, quads, delts, and pecs ............ quads and pecs are so easy

[Tren Bull]

so what u would recommend to someone who is running tren ???

id recomend to not run rediculously high doses. i suppose if you're gonna do that then you got no choice. its either bromo or bich tits. vit b6 does not do sh_t for preventing progestin related gyno

[QuieTSToRM33]

nvm, no reference to letro and progestin

check the Letro profile in the steroid profiles forum ........ maybe hooker wrote somethin about it

[Jimmya73]

havent tried pecs, quad shots are fine now after that first bad reaction. my delt shot went well too

[Tren Bull]

y dont u shoot other spots ......... shootin ED u really have to ....... i use a rotation of glutes, quads, delts, and pecs ............ quads and pecs are so easy

yea i might try pecs if my legs are feeling excessivly sore. i dont think il ever shoot into my delts though

[QuieTSToRM33]

id recomend to not run rediculously high doses. i suppose if you're gonna do that then you got no choice. its either bromo or bich tits. vit b6 does not do sh_t for preventing progestin related gyno

i plan on runnin tren at 50-75mg ED ........ what u think i should be runnin to try and combat the progestin ??? ........ i usually run nolva/l-dex for anti-e's

[Tren Bull]

agreed quiet, but cant progestins also increase the negative effects of estrogen? and since i will always have a test in there which will aromatize, ive got to be careful. isnt letro a strong progestin binder like bromo??

ive heard rumors that letro works as an anti progestin, but no one has ever really confirmed that

[Jimmya73]

its alot easier if you have a fellow roommate on gear or one you trust to aspirate and push the plunger for you. thats the bad part about a 25gauge pin, takes forever to push it down

[Tren Bull]

i plan on runnin tren at 50-75mg ED ........ what u think i should be runnin to try and combat the progestin ??? ........ i usually run nolva/l-dex for anti-e's

imo letro is the best. the ultimate anti gyno combo would be letro/aromasin /winni depo

[Akrus423]

500mg DBOL ED !!! >.......... damn that must be rough

They're basicly autisic retards who think it will get em stronger, when it will only convert to estrogen anyways.

[Akrus423]

They're basicly autisic retards who think it will get em stronger, when it will only convert to estrogen anyways.

Basically total morons.

[Tren Bull]

They're basicly autisic retards who think it will get em stronger, when it will only convert to estrogen anyways.

so these are your friends you're talking about?

[Jimmya73]

idk quiet, maybe run a stronger anti-e along with the b-6 and i doubt you will have trouble. i am really sensitive, i have had that soft ball behind the nips since 8th grade, it happened during puberty. its not that much of an issue with most people. if you are using it as a cutter alot of estro suppression helps with leanness considerably anyway, always has for me. i can usually drop 1-3% bodyfat just by including it in a bulker or cutter(without gear)

[Akrus423]

so these are your friends you're talking about?

haha...

[QuieTSToRM33]

imo letro is the best. the ultimate anti gyno combo would be letro/aromasin/winni depo

dont u have to take letro like a couple weeks b4 ur cycle, so it builds up ..... and letro also kills ur sex drive ... ??????

[Jimmya73]

alright boys, ill be back but i have to go lay down now. i have crazy lethargy after my workouts

[Tren Bull]

bro, that stack you were talkin about is 10,500 mgs a week of gear. imo thats pretty excessive

[QuieTSToRM33]

idk quiet, maybe run a stronger anti-e along with the b-6 and i doubt you will have trouble. i am really sensitive, i have had that soft ball behind the nips since 8th grade, it happened during puberty. its not that much of an issue with most people. if you are using it as a cutter alot of estro suppression helps with leanness considerably anyway, always has for me. i can usually drop 1-3% bodyfat just by including it in a bulker or cutter(without gear)

are u referrin to the B-6 ???