Lance Armstrong vs Micheal Jordan

[THE_DOME]

My co worker and i were debating on whom is a better athlete i was wondering what your guys thoughts were on this. I said that jordan was a way better athlete.

[Katelette81]

I dunno about that.... haha. He was good at basketball, but think of the dedication, hard work.. mentally , emotionally and physically taht Lance put in to riding... it's like 20 some odd days of pure cycling... I'd say Lance by a long shot

[THE_DOME]

kate good answer but not the one i am looking for

[Katelette81]

Haha... sorry, I'm not a very agreeable person. I like discussions. But I have to say, you need to think about this. Yes, Lance is a skinny little weakling and not exactly what I would consider a man's man... but you have to commend him, he's an amazing athlete... And personally I don't like Michael Jordan.. he's a bit of an attention hog and sell out .. IMO of course..

[Carlos_E]

Two dif sports. How can you compare the two? I'd say they're both good athletes even though I don't think much of a guy who rides a bike for a living. But whatever.

[Superhuman]

i'd say lance armstrong. Michael is just a big tall guy who knows how to play basketball - sure he's got skills, but you go to any public basketball court and you'll see some undiscovered baller who's as good as if not better than Jordan. Lance Armstrong is a role model for any athlete because of the hard work, discipline, and dedication he has put in. Come on, he had testicular cancer!

[Superhuman]

but Carlos is right, it's hard to compare two athletes from VERY different sports.

[Superhuman]

...and pointless

[Katelette81]

I'd say you can compare.... think about endurance, knowledge they possess, knowledge they need to possess... training hours... mental and emotional hurdles.... I'm sticking iwth Lance.

Vive Le Tour!!!

[Carlos_E]

Riding a bike takes intelligence, knowledge and skill?

No, it takes endurance.

[Carlos_E]

i'd say lance armstrong. Michael is just a big tall guy who knows how to play basketball - sure he's got skills, but you go to any public basketball court and you'll see some undiscovered baller who's as good as if not better than Jordan. Lance Armstrong is a role model for any athlete because of the hard work, discipline, and dedication he has put in. Come on, he had testicular cancer!

And this other guy knows how to pedal. That takes skill?

[THE_DOME]

I'd say you can compare.... think about endurance, knowledge they possess, knowledge they need to possess... training hours... mental and emotional hurdles.... I'm sticking iwth Lance.

Vive Le Tour!!!

i think that they can be compared, look at kates responses in to compare them.

[Katelette81]

Riding a bike takes intelligence, knowledge and skill?

No, it takes endurance.

Haha.. they don't just ride, there's a whole theory and strategy behind it. Try watching it... it's really exciting and interesting how they make thier moves, everythign is planned and very precise...

[Superhuman]

haha this remind me of an old thread:

http://67.18.108.244/showthread.php?...ight=bear+lion

[THE_DOME]

Haha.. they don't just ride, there's a whole theory and strategy behind it. Try watching it... it's really exciting and interesting how they make thier moves, everythign is planned and very precise...

i am watch lances dvd right now and i dont know if there is anything that exciting about it but i do respect the training and disipline that it take to be the yellow shirt

[Katelette81]

And this other guy knows how to pedal. That takes skill?

You're seriuosly testing me here.. haha. J/K. I just love Le Tour, I wait for it all year. And if you go on to the site

http://www.letour.fr/2006/TDF/LIVE/us/800/index.html

you can read all the rules and everythign that goes in to it this event. It really is quite amazing. Notice I'm not bashing Michael Jordan or basketball to prove my point..

[Katelette81]

i am watch lances dvd right now and i dont know if there is anything that exciting about it but i do respect the training and disipline that it take to be the yellow shirt

I agree... you have to be an avid fan to see the excitement I guess.... I'm a bit of a nut. I appreciate all the jerseys... they all work very hard to get them... and that Robbie McEwen is an incredible guy too.. he's favoured this year.. I miss Lance though, he made it more interesting

[THE_DOME]

my co worker is a lance nut and he is also pretty bumed that lance isnt tearing that shit up this year, he doesnt even want to watch it

[Katelette81]

That's a shame.. it's actually been pretty good this year. I know it sounds bad to say, but there's been a few exciting falls and some major instinctual moves made by some teams... he should get in to it. A lot of these guys are riding with some pretty bad injuries... Alejandro Valverde is out though.. broke his collarbone, typical cyclist injusry though.. wow, could go on and on... blah blah blah ..sorry.. i just love it.. hten again, I love watching golf too

[Pooks]

JORDAN..

he played basketball, and also was a outstanding baseball player, not a pro but good..

anyways..
OK

JORDAN versus LANCE in CYCLING.. lance woudl win.. but JORDAN woudl finish the race, and do respectable ... i would bet on it... he is a lean guy, maybe too tall for racing, but he has the stamina and endurance...

JORDAN versus LANCE is basketball, 100-0 JORDAN, and he'd score more if time didnt had ran out.. outstanding defender, and the best ever overall.

and put it another way..
If LANCE was a better athlete, he'd be playing some other sport LOL but he wasnt good enough so he settled for cycling LOL

[Superhuman]

JORDAN..

he played basketball, and also was a outstanding baseball player, not a pro but good..

anyways..
OK

JORDAN versus LANCE in CYCLING.. lance woudl win.. but JORDAN woudl finish the race, and do respectable ... i would bet on it... he is a lean guy, maybe too tall for racing, but he has the stamina and endurance...

JORDAN versus LANCE is basketball, 100-0 JORDAN, and he'd score more if time didnt had ran out.. outstanding defender, and the best ever overall.

and put it another way..
If LANCE was a better athlete, he'd be playing some other sport LOL but he wasnt good enough so he settled for cycling LOL

last time I checked Jordan WAS a pro, which is why he has made millions of dollars.

[Pooks]

last time I checked Jordan WAS a pro, which is why he has made millions of dollars.

not as a baseball player, well he did play Singe A which would classify him as a pro, but he sure didnt make millions playing baseball...

Apparently u misunderstood me, so i'm clarifying.,

[BOUNCER]

Riding a bike takes intelligence, knowledge and skill?

No, it takes endurance.

In that case cyclists would just ride until the last one in the saddle is left peddling and is declared the winner.

Lance gets my backing.

[Pooks]

the best way to settle this is in the RING..

and Jordan would tool on Lance lol

[LatinoPR]

My co worker and i were debating on whom is a better athlete i was wondering what your guys thoughts were on this. I said that jordan was a way better athlete.

HELL no...! Jordan compete with local or USA teams...Armstrong competed with peaple from around the world.......BTW,he beat cancer !

[Carlos_E]

.......BTW,he beat cancer !

While that is commendable that has nothing to do with someone's athletic ability.

[QuieTSToRM33]

Apples and Oranges

7 Tour de France wins in a row vs. 6 NBA Titles won in 2 diff 3-peats + MVP awards

[chest6]

Two completely different views. I'm with Jordan.. I think Jordan was more athletic overall. Lance just is a genetic freak when it comes to endurance..lung capacity etc

[1819]

i'd say lance armstrong. Michael is just a big tall guy who knows how to play basketball - sure he's got skills, but you go to any public basketball court and you'll see some undiscovered baller who's as good as if not better than Jordan. Lance Armstrong is a role model for any athlete because of the hard work, discipline, and dedication he has put in. Come on, he had testicular cancer!

ahhhh, what. go to any court and find a jordan. he dominated the sport for years. i wont get deep into this debate. i was a pro athlete so i respect all pro sports and athletes. i respect lance for all he has done but at the end of the day, the guy rides a bike. please. who's better? ny yankees or the bad news bears? not a fair question.

[kman]

JORDAN..

he played basketball, and also was a outstanding baseball player, not a pro but good..

anyways..
OK

JORDAN versus LANCE in CYCLING.. lance woudl win.. but JORDAN woudl finish the race, and do respectable ... i would bet on it... he is a lean guy, maybe too tall for racing, but he has the stamina and endurance...

JORDAN versus LANCE is basketball, 100-0 JORDAN, and he'd score more if time didnt had ran out.. outstanding defender, and the best ever overall.

and put it another way..
If LANCE was a better athlete, he'd be playing some other sport LOL but he wasnt good enough so he settled for cycling LOL

I agree. I mean a pitcher not being able to throw a a spiral football, or a soccer player not being able to shoot a hoop. I always like to compare athletes this way as well to determine who really is more skilled. Both great athlethes, but jordan could do it all.

[J.S.N.]

very hard to compare because lance is a freakish endurance athlet whereas jordan is what i would consider the more typical athlete with quickness, reflexes, fine motor skills, etc.

so obviously in terms of "pure athleticism" (best measured by the long jump) jordan wins, an for endurance athleticism lance wins.


when you compare the 2 as in who achieved more in his sport, i would say jordan. he dominated the game from the shooting guard position wiht a relatively weak team. even shaq hasn't been as dominant a presence, and he's the most dominant center.

lance may have dominated the TdF for seven years, but his victories will always be a little hollow for me because it's all he raced all year and his team was solely designed to win the tour. i'm not saying he wouldn't have won otherwise because IMO he is a perfect GC rider, but his tour victories would have more meanign if he'd ever taken a shot at another race much less another grand tour.

[J.S.N.]

btw lance's awesome ability to throw out alot of power for a long time comes from his freakisly high lactate threshold.

[bor]

And personally I don't like Michael Jordan.. he's a bit of an attention hog and sell out .. IMO of course..

Oh come on we're talking about an NBA basketball player here!!! How can you call MJ an attention hog with the likes of Kobe and Allen Iverson running around the courts?!?!?

And I'll have to agree with the ones that are calling this a stupid discussion...you can't really compare the two...its like on of those 'could Ronnie beat Rocky in Pride..' threads

[zimmy]

I don't feel like readin all this ... My opinion is Lance...after living with cyclist as roomates and reading about how much Lance had to do to get to where his muscles are...to be at a point where other people study his body because of where he's gotten it to? MJ's a great athlete...but Lance hands down.

[Katelette81]

Oh come on we're talking about an NBA basketball player here!!! How can you call MJ an attention hog with the likes of Kobe and Allen Iverson running around the courts?!?!?

And I'll have to agree with the ones that are calling this a stupid discussion...you can't really compare the two...its like on of those 'could Ronnie beat Rocky in Pride..' threads

I thought it was really retarded that MJ tried his hand in Baseball.. and failed miserably btw. Not to mention retiring, coming back, retiring, coming back.. liike give it up.. end it on a high note... he was a good bb player.. I'm not arguing that. I just think it takes a lot more to be a tour de france winner 7 years in a row.. ..

But I don't htink this is a stupid thread.. it's a pretty interesting discussion since the two are so difficult to compare.. interesting points gettig brought up...

[J-Dogg]

Lance was the best biker for 7 years.

Jordan was the best B-ball player from the day he entered the NBA.

[MrMent1on]

btw lance's awesome ability to throw out alot of power for a long time comes from his freakisly high lactate threshold.

ITS CALLED EPO

[Pooks]

Woman should be barred from all discussions regarding "Michael Jordan"

DA BULLZ!

[biglouie250]

the only way to tell who the better athlete is would be to take lance and MJ in their primes and choose a bunch of neutral sports to compete in.

I think lance is the better athlete. Ive played basketball and i bike ride. obviously not at their level but i didnt have a problem playing 48 minutes of a basketball game. some slight fatigue but nothing crazy. i also ride 30 miles at a clip, my legs get shot and i pass out after that. lance did what like 100 ED for 3 weeks during the tour? Up Hill? i can see competing athletically at MJ's level(obviously i dont have the skill, or precision but hey). i just cant fathom competing at lance's level.

[Katelette81]

Woman should be barred from all discussions regarding "Michael Jordan"

DA BULLZ!

Puhleeze, you just don't like the fact that I raise a good argument. MJ is a good athlete... but don't put him up against someone like Lance..