neil armstrong says we arent alone....

[Kärnfysikern]

Considering the age of the universe, and what we as a civilization have accomplished in the few years we have been awakened scientifically (the last 100 years or so) odds are certainly that most, if not all, civilizations out there are VASTLY superior to us. Imagine what our own planet will look like in perhaps 1000 years from now. Then imagine a civilization that has been around for perhaps millions of years, totally mindblowing...

exactly. Thats why I dont want them around

But there is always the fermi paradox. If they exist why arent they everywhere. It only takes a couple of million years to colonise the entire galaxy even without faster than light travel.

[helium3]

Now imagine if they are not only truly superior technologicaly but FAR superior intellectualy aswell.
How would the scientific comunity react if the aliens have science that we cant even comprehend because we are to limited intelectualy, even when they try to teach it to us? That would be the death of human science.

i dont know,many of the things that we have discovered scientifically so far will still remain intact regardless.and as to wether our intelligence is enough to comprehend their technology or science,well we all learn by standing on the shoulders of those who came before us,passing down our knowledge in books/computers etc,so i guess we will have to learn new ways,dispite our floors we are very adaptable and resilient.

maybe it would be better to meet them at our present stage,as we are not a threat,if we were at a similar level of developement we could pose a threat?

who knows its just a guessing game for now.

[IronReload04]

1. honostly, if alians wanted to wipe us out and take us over, Dont you think they would have done it by now?

[helium3]

1. honostly, if alians wanted to wipe us out and take us over, Dont you think they would have done it by now?

and 2?

[IronReload04]

2.
If they are so much more technologicall advanced?

what if einstein was an alian, or had alian influence. It guess its more appealing that he was an alian than had alian influence. What if they gave us einstein to give us a kick in the ass

same thing with billy G gates..

maybe they really did visit us to help us build the pyramids

[helium3]

@ ironreload maybe their deathstar got stuck in uranus.

[IronReload04]

1. honostly, if alians wanted to wipe us out and take us over, Dont you think they would have done it by now?

i cant imagine them planning to wipe us out, and wait it out 1000's of years. if they exist, i am sure they know all they need to know about us and have known it for a very long time

[IronReload04]

@ ironreload maybe their deathstar got stuck in uranus.

hahah, that made me laugh out loud for real

[helium3]

really if you think about it jesus was an alien.

[helium3]

i cant imagine them planning to wipe us out, and wait it out 1000's of years. if they exist, i am sure they know all they need to know about us and have known it for a very long time

yep i agree.

[IronReload04]

really if you think about it jesus was an alien.

i dont know if your religious or not, but shit that complicates things a little if alians exist.

[IronReload04]

on discovery channel, the bible does make limited reference to alians believed only by some???? not saying its reliable, but hey

[helium3]

Considering the age of the universe, and what we as a civilization have accomplished in the few years we have been awakened scientifically (the last 100 years or so) odds are certainly that most, if not all, civilizations out there are VASTLY superior to us. Imagine what our own planet will look like in perhaps 1000 years from now. Then imagine a civilization that has been around for perhaps millions of years, totally mindblowing...

imagine the wellfare payments for all the scrounging bastards.

[SVTMuscle*]

I am a firm believer in aliens. With space being as big as it is, and the trillions and trillions of stars and unknown planets, you'd be a fool not to believe that there is some other form of life out ther other than our planet. We arnt that unique haha. Although I think the Neil Armstrong thing is fake, because any other telescope or satelite would of caught what they saw, I believe.

[ShnouzedUp]

i wonder if there are any hot ones.. with like 4 breasts or some shxt

[Lavinco]

How come UFO pictures and video always suck? Even though I had an unusal experience myself at age 11 with my mother driving us to the store in the country while a circle shaped aircraft hovered above us and followed us at our speed and stopped when we stoped, I would still like to see some high quality pics and video that are not fabricated.

[zimmy]

seriously though...wtf...why would neil armstrong talk to a uk rag magazine? Imean please. I do believe there are aliens...but i don't believe in UK rag magazines

[ShnouzedUp]

How come UFO pictures and video always suck? Even though I had an unusal experience myself at age 11 with my mother driving us to the store in the country while a circle shaped aircraft hovered above us and followed us at our speed and stopped when we stoped, I would still like to see some high quality pics and video that are not fabricated.

reh he he he he eallllyyy?

[sofus99]

exactly. Thats why I dont want them around

But there is always the fermi paradox. If they exist why arent they everywhere. It only takes a couple of million years to colonise the entire galaxy even without faster than light travel.

But maybe they have colonized much of the galaxy. How can we know, with our current technology, we are barely able to detect planets around stars with doppler shifts and such. How do we know for a fact that some of the nearest stars are not colonized?
I do however doubt that it is the case. There is an enormous amount of stars out there, many of them probably closer to the origins of the other civilizations, and probably better suited to colonization than our nearest neighbors.
Such advanced civilizations would probably not need to colonize every star out there. With structures such as Dysons spheres, one could readily imagine what a huge amount of individuals could be living near a single star, so I dont necessarily think one would see a complete civilization of the entire galaxy.

[SVTMuscle*]

How come UFO pictures and video always suck? Even though I had an unusal experience myself at age 11 with my mother driving us to the store in the country while a circle shaped aircraft hovered above us and followed us at our speed and stopped when we stoped, I would still like to see some high quality pics and video that are not fabricated.

I think that Big Foot is blurry, and the camera men dont get enough credit

[Hackamaniac]

[Motion]

I've always somewhat believed the fake moon landing theory.

[Phreak101]

The Loch Ness monster flew the plane into the twin towers

[STYLE74]

I beleive in aliens, the lochness monster, and bigfoot....

[rake922]

The majority of Aliens do support comprehensive immigration reform.

[Moe-mentum]

I beleive in aliens, the lochness monster, and bigfoot....

I wouldn't doubt you believe in all of them.

[Lavinco]

How many people believe the alien autopsy video. Thats pretty clear
http://www.altavista.com/video/resul...=other&mvd=all

[Moe-mentum]

See, thats a tricky word...."believe".
I can't say I believe it and I can't say that I don't.
I don't have enough information to believe one way or the other.
However I believe there is definitely something going on, on a massive scale.
But exactly what, I don't know for sure.

Warning, rant ahead......The "believers are both sides of the same coin.
On the one side, you have the believers that just simply "believe" that there is no such posibility of alien life visiting our planet and will not believe it until it is fed to him thorugh the mass media.
Then there are the believers that thay ARE visiting earth when they have never seen anything for their own eyes, it's more of a feeling based on large possibilities and something of a "wanting" to beleive in some cases.

Both sides are working on faith and presumption to prematurely come to such a conclusion as to "believe" one way or the other.
You may have strong tendencies toward one side of the coin or the other, but if a leap of faith is taken to cross the chasm from strong tendency to "Belief", then there is an error of judgement being made either consciously or unconsciuosly.

A persons filter for incoming information can be pretty strong.
Take for example someone of low self esteem.
You could have two comments, one saying how great they are, and one saying how pathetic they are.
Because of this persons filter, they will only listen to the person that has said that they are pathetic and will be the comment she remembers because it is consistant with their self image/identity, thus continuing to reinforce her pre-existing beliefs.
One may "hear" the statement that she is great, but they will not take it in, integrate it and make it a part of her living reality because of the conflict of interest.

Anyways, both sides are ineffective for balanced, objective and ongoing research into the subject to be able to come to the truth and fact of the matter.

You will find many making a statement on the subject without any prior research into the topic at hand. Displaying their own ignorance on stage, preferring to stay in their pre-concieved little eggshell of an idea on the bigger picture rather than to actually put intellectual effort into the subject they are discussing....don't blame them, it can be more comfortable.

The best way to view this very real phenomenon is to continue to be pragmatic. Keep an open mind on the subject, continually taking in new information unless you have had some first hand experience in some way where you are able to trust your senses first hand.
Buuuuut,...like Einstein said

"I believe only two things to be infinite, the reaches of the Universe, and the capacity for mans ignorance"

Rant over.

[solid-d]

Think of what we accomplished in the last 200 years... Well Aliens are tens of thousands of years ahead of us.. Its 2006 now, for them its like 22006... And they have big heads because they scientifitly evoled there brain with messing with DNA...

[Moe-mentum]

And they have big heads because they scientifitly evoled there brain with messing with DNA...

They told you this personaly?

[1819]

neil armstrong has the greatest vacation story ever. people are always like "yea i went to tahiti last year" or "i was in cape cod for the weekend" or "yea, just got back from the bahamas". niel is like..."see that"? pointing at the moon. "i was there. it was alright".

[1819]

Think of what we accomplished in the last 200 years... Well Aliens are tens of thousands of years ahead of us.. Its 2006 now, for them its like 22006... And they have big heads because they scientifitly evoled there brain with messing with DNA...

and why wouldnt there be civlizations thousands of years behind us?

[Kärnfysikern]

and why wouldnt there be civlizations thousands of years behind us?

if there is life out there the odds are pretty high that there are both those more advanced than us and those less advanced.

[Kärnfysikern]

But maybe they have colonized much of the galaxy. How can we know, with our current technology, we are barely able to detect planets around stars with doppler shifts and such. How do we know for a fact that some of the nearest stars are not colonized?
I do however doubt that it is the case. There is an enormous amount of stars out there, many of them probably closer to the origins of the other civilizations, and probably better suited to colonization than our nearest neighbors.
Such advanced civilizations would probably not need to colonize every star out there. With structures such as Dysons spheres, one could readily imagine what a huge amount of individuals could be living near a single star, so I dont necessarily think one would see a complete civilization of the entire galaxy.

If any race where building dyson spheres we should notice stars that suddenly stop shining or wierd infrared sources frfom dyson spheres that have been around for a long time. Stuff like that would be visible to us easily.

I guess we would also have a fair chanse of picking up any signals. But then again we might have done so already(familiar with the WOW signal?).

imo I think the only way a advanced spieces would not colonise the entire galaxy in a few million years is if they just dont want to. Maby they settle for a few stars or something like that.

But imagine if another spieces have the urge to explore like humans have?

[bor]

i wonder if there are any hot ones.. with like 4 breasts or some shxt

I was scrolling down, reading the thread and I see your avi, and think - look the dude is drinking and partying again...and I think I wonder what he has to say on the subject...?!??!

4 boobs

[firmechicano831]

quick questionss for you guys?
1. Would you like to go to area 51 if what you saw and heard was in your mind for ever but someway you wouldnt be able to explain it or talk about it to anyone.
2. Do you think the president has ever been to area 51 or would his family be able to visit there and see whats going on?

[GUnit33]

Man...I just got done watching war of the worlds AND indepence day last night too....god damn...

[helium3]

quick questionss for you guys?
1. Would you like to go to area 51 if what you saw and heard was in your mind for ever but someway you wouldnt be able to explain it or talk about it to anyone.
2. Do you think the president has ever been to area 51 or would his family be able to visit there and see whats going on?

no and er no!

[Lavinco]

I thought area 51 was shut down.

[STYLE74]

www.area51club.netArea 51 is still around, check it out!