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    Big Papi

    Is this guy truly and utterly amazing. Yeah im from Mass., but if I wasnt Id still praise this guy. The greatest clutch hitter of all time. 2006 AL MVP. Its truly amazing what he can do at the plate. Its something to relish cause these guys dont come around too often. Give him props. Oh yeah before i forget.... YANKEES SUCK!!

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    Giants fan here, but I like the way this guy attacks the ball, reminds me of Mo Vaughn a few years back.

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    He is No way the most clutch guy ever and he hasn't been good for that long he was decent in Minnesota Great in Boston and he is horrible at defense...

    Go CARDINALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Icon
    Giants fan here, but I like the way this guy attacks the ball, reminds me of Mo Vaughn a few years back.
    Don Baylor before that.

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    Yeah..good hitter I saw that game winning one to where the shortstop would normally be the other night I wouldnt say the "Greatest clutch hitter of all time" thats kinna unfair to say already

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    He just had a walk off 3 run homer tonight. Noone comes close to his clutch hitting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGearedUp
    He just had a walk off 3 run homer tonight. Noone comes close to his clutch hitting.

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    hmm go watch espn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hackamaniac
    He is No way the most clutch guy ever and he hasn't been good for that long he was decent in Minnesota Great in Boston and he is horrible at defense...

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    he's a DH in the american league bro.. seldom plays defense

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    I know that and it's because he's not very good..

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    At defense I should of said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGearedUp
    hmm go watch espn.
    I didn't mean he didn't hit the homerun I was watching the game I was just saying not the most clutch hitter ever..

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    bro...the guy couldnt field a grounder if he wanted to. the guy can hit..but MVP is a TOTAL player....not a hitter only

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    Every american league team has a DH.. so don't say he's only mediocre or rip on his ability to play defense... My point is every American League gets a DH, so putting him at defense doesn't indicate he sucks.

    If one never played defense you probably wouldn't be as good as those who play defense on a daily basis.

    So saying, "he's not very good at defense" is pretty ridiculous since he has no need to.. I'll say it for the 3rd time :
    Every American league team gets a DH

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    So who else do you elect as the greatest all time clutch hitter if he's not

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    there's plenty better then him too many to mention!!!

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    if he was a good fielder....he would be playing the field..& another problem i have with that is that if they make it to the World series....he HAS to play the field at the NL park....bad for boston if he plays forst instead of youkolis

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    And the reason people DH is because they do suck at defense or are getting old..

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    Well American league has home field advantage this season so he wouldn't have to play as much!!!
    Last edited by Hackamaniac; 07-31-2006 at 09:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by getnjakked
    if he was a good fielder....he would be playing the field..& another problem i have with that is that if they make it to the World series....he HAS to play the field at the NL park....bad for boston if he plays forst instead of youkolis
    Horrible argument dude

    They swept the cards in the world series 4-0 with David Ortiz at first
    It was no contest..........

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    Quote Originally Posted by rake922
    Horrible argument dude

    They swept the cards in the world series 4-0 with David Ortiz at first
    It was no contest..........
    Yeah but took them forever to get there!!!

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    bad example man..i never said he was a bad hitter...hes a great hitter. he simply isnt a complete ballplayer....if you think he is --your not thinking clearly. he has ONE of FIVE tools that they consider for ballplayers...he is a great hitter..cant run/field/throw well at all....thats the truth

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    Still havent heard any names....

    Who else in history has that many walk off hits? Big games or not. Alot of assinine comments about his defense,but haters are gonna hate.

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    how are they assinine

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    astros fan here... but was watching the game on ESPN and that walk off was siiick. Almost a 90% chance he would have done it.

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    i gave him his props man.just be real is all. of course you are biased...your a boston fan...thats cool..I would be too..just be realistic & honest. He is a great HITTER...not a great PLAYER. END OF STORY

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    Quote Originally Posted by AllGearedUp
    Still havent heard any names....

    Who else in history has that many walk off hits? Big games or not. Alot of assinine comments about his defense,but haters are gonna hate.
    Right on dude... You ask who is better and he says there are too many to name them.. scroll up

    LMAO.. in other words , I don't know

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    Yeah your right rake I don't know any here's just a few Barry Bonds,Reggie Jackson,Babe Ruth,Derek Jeter,Albert Pujols,Mickey Mantle,Willie Mays all where just as cluth for as long as he has been sometime in there career he hasn't done it for that long...

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    name_common | WalkOffPAs | WalkOffHits | WalkOffHRs |
    +——————+————+————-+————+
    | Frank Robinson | 27 | 26 | 12 |
    | Dusty Baker | 25 | 21 | 8 |
    | Andre Dawson | 20 | 20 | 5 |
    | Tony Perez | 20 | 20 | 11 |
    | Lou Whitaker | 20 | 19 | 8 |
    | Rusty Staub | 19 | 19 | 4 |
    | Roberto Clemente | 19 | 19 | 3 |
    | Don Baylor | 19 | 18 | 7 |
    | Manny Mota | 20 | 18 | 1 |
    | Pete Rose | 21 | 18 | 3 |
    | Carlton Fisk | 18 | 18 | 4 |
    | Lance Parrish | 17 | 17 | 7 |
    | Jack Clark | 18 | 17 | 8 |
    | Eddie Murray | 18 | 17 | 9 |
    | Brooks Robinson | 18 | 17 | 8 |
    | Graig Nettles | 18 | 17 | 7 |
    | Hank Aaron | 18 | 17 | 9 |
    | Rickey Henderson | 22 | 16 | 5 |
    | George Hendrick | 16 | 16 | 6 |
    | Jose Cruz | 17 | 16 | 6 |
    ……….
    | David Ortiz | 10 | 10 | 5 |

    Hes got a ways to go..

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    Quote Originally Posted by chest6
    name_common | WalkOffPAs | WalkOffHits | WalkOffHRs |
    +——————+————+————-+————+
    | Frank Robinson | 27 | 26 | 12 |
    | Dusty Baker | 25 | 21 | 8 |
    | Andre Dawson | 20 | 20 | 5 |
    | Tony Perez | 20 | 20 | 11 |
    | Lou Whitaker | 20 | 19 | 8 |
    | Rusty Staub | 19 | 19 | 4 |
    | Roberto Clemente | 19 | 19 | 3 |
    | Don Baylor | 19 | 18 | 7 |
    | Manny Mota | 20 | 18 | 1 |
    | Pete Rose | 21 | 18 | 3 |
    | Carlton Fisk | 18 | 18 | 4 |
    | Lance Parrish | 17 | 17 | 7 |
    | Jack Clark | 18 | 17 | 8 |
    | Eddie Murray | 18 | 17 | 9 |
    | Brooks Robinson | 18 | 17 | 8 |
    | Graig Nettles | 18 | 17 | 7 |
    | Hank Aaron | 18 | 17 | 9 |
    | Rickey Henderson | 22 | 16 | 5 |
    | George Hendrick | 16 | 16 | 6 |
    | Jose Cruz | 17 | 16 | 6 |
    ……….
    | David Ortiz | 10 | 10 | 5 |

    Hes got a ways to go..
    post your source... Those stats are outdated

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    I can't believ my list is that off but I can't believe none of these guys have had that many walk off hits........So I'm gonna have to do some research of my own....

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    but i did say sometime in there career lol

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    thats from 57 to 2005

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    im a huge Bo Sox fan as well. Ortiz is definetly the best clutch hitter in baseball right now, but certaintly not of all time. he will definetly be considered for AL MVP. he was 2nd in voting last year behind ARod and it could have went either way. you say he sucks at defense...well he plays 1B. its not like he plays SS or makes these web gems catches in the OF. he is an average defensive firstbaseman. and i bet that nearly every team in baseball would trade their current 1B for Ortiz (with the exception of maybe StL, Phil, and ChC).

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    Albert Pujols is in my opinion the best pure hitter in baseball right now, I watched them play against Philly and done 0-2 in the count he blasted a homerun. From what my dad has told me about Ted Williams and what I have read there area alot of comapirsons. Almost every pitcher he faces says that when you get the guy down you still dont have the advantage because he can do whatever he wants with the ball. If he hadnt got hurt i think he would have caught Barry for the record. Ortiz is a good hitter no doubt but best clutch hitter ever this far into his career its just a little to early to give him that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kal-El
    Albert Pujols is in my opinion the best pure hitter in baseball right now, I watched them play against Philly and done 0-2 in the count he blasted a homerun. From what my dad has told me about Ted Williams and what I have read there area alot of comapirsons. Almost every pitcher he faces says that when you get the guy down you still dont have the advantage because he can do whatever he wants with the ball. If he hadnt got hurt i think he would have caught Barry for the record. Ortiz is a good hitter no doubt but best clutch hitter ever this far into his career its just a little to early to give him that.
    Albert WAS the best pure hitter. Looks like he might miss some time with a shoulder injury. I sure hope not cause he's what's carrying my fantasy team.

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    Pujols is awesome without a doubt. I honestly dont think he would have sustained the pace at which he was hitting HRs and passed Bonds' 73.

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    Quote Originally Posted by unvme9180
    Pujols is awesome without a doubt. I honestly dont think he would have sustained the pace at which he was hitting HRs and passed Bonds' 73.
    agreed. 73 is just flat out ridiculous..

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    Quote Originally Posted by unvme9180
    Pujols is awesome without a doubt. I honestly dont think he would have sustained the pace at which he was hitting HRs and passed Bonds' 73.
    No but he was on alot higher pace than anbody in either league when he strained his oblique and hello David Ortiz has a guy named Manny Ramirez hitting behind him Nobody else in baseball has someone that dangerous behind them maybe Arod behind Giambi..

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    Yeah very true. Not many guys have someone with Manny's caliber hitting behind them. Barry was a more dangerous hitter when Kent was hitting behind him (back when Kent was good)

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