Don't pay taxes anymore!!!!!!!

[Kale]

You guys need to live in Singapore. The top tax rate here, and I mean top, is 20%. We are payed gross every month ie we are not taxed monthly at all. We do our tax returns at the end of the calender year, you are given a bill a couple of months later, you can then pay it off qaurterly and interest free. If you are not a citizen, like me, and you travel out of the country for more than 90 days a year then you only pay 10% tax.

[STYLE74]

lol..i've gotta steal this phrase

You can't steel it because i'm going to!! j/k

[STYLE74]

You guys need to live in Singapore. The top tax rate here, and I mean top, is 20%. We are payed gross every month ie we are not taxed monthly at all. We do our tax returns at the end of the calender year, you are given a bill a couple of months later, you can then pay it off qaurterly and interest free. If you are not a citizen, like me, and you travel out of the country for more than 90 days a year then you only pay 10% tax.

I am there!!!!!!!!!!

[cfiler]

Alot of cool information here.

I don't mind paying taxes, I just wish I had more control over what it's being used for. IE: which roads get paved, which schools get funding, ect.

[Oki-Des]

But even with all the loopholes, rich people still pay a higher percentage of their money than poorer people. I am not complaining about it, but its crazy to think that rich people dont have to pay as much tax because they know something you dont. In the US there used to be a 98% tax braket. This is obviously rediculous and was intended to screw the rich. Thats what can happen when a Democratic congress and Democratic president are in office at the same time. This was back in the 20's, but it showed the rich that the poor have no problem screwing them. You cant blame the rich for defending themselves either. It all works out in the end. If your poor you dont pay much, and even with the loopholes the wealthy still pay a lot.

[anaBROLIC]

shoot, i need to read up on some of this stuff... i owe the irs 13k for something that wasnt even my fault and they turned me down in trying to compramise. so now im 200 bucks a month in the hole for like 10 years...or til i pay it off!

[STYLE74]

shoot, i need to read up on some of this stuff... i owe the irs 13k for something that wasnt even my fault and they turned me down in trying to compramise. so now im 200 bucks a month in the hole for like 10 years...or til i pay it off!

Yeah bro read up on the websites that were posted here and try and check out this movie, there are alot of things coming out about the goverment and the taxes we pay.

[MotoXracer]

I saw the trailer to that movie. I did a little searching around and found this.

Seventh Circuit case, the Court observed:

Some people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest. 'Tax protesters' have convinced themselves that wages are not income, that only gold is money, that the Sixteenth Amendment is unconstitutional, and so on. These beliefs all lead — so tax protesters think — to the elimination of their obligation to pay taxes."

lmost every United States Court of Appeals has made a blanket statement repudiating tax protester arguments. For example, see United States v. Buckner[3]:

"For the record, we note that the following beliefs, which are stock arguments of the tax protester movement, have not been, nor ever will be, considered 'objectively reasonable' in this circuit:
"(1) the belief that the Sixteenth Amendment to the Constitution was improperly ratified and therefore never came into being;
"(2) the belief that the Sixteenth Amendment is unconstitutional generally;
"(3) the belief that the income tax violates the Takings Clause of the Fifth Amendment;
"(4) the belief that the tax laws are unconstitutional;
"(5) the belief that wages are not income and therefore are not subject to federal income tax laws;
"(6) the belief that filing a tax return violates the privilege against self-incrimination; and
"(7) the belief that Federal Reserve Notes do not constitute cash or income."

Despite this and other similar rulings, people continue to read and believe these sources.

[Triple X]

Yeah bro read up on the websites that were posted here and try and check out this movie, there are alot of things coming out about the goverment and the taxes we pay.

They are hiding our tax money on the moon

[Moe-mentum]

They are hiding our tax money on the moon

How old are you like 10?

[Moe-mentum]

Some people believe with great fervor preposterous things that just happen to coincide with their self-interest.

You mean kind of like you and *your information?

[svarturer]

Well.... i bet im paying more tax then you

[wascaptain5214]

a few of my buddies are tax protesters and dont pay income tax.....one lost his house, that was paid for. one lost his bussiness and house over this. i agree the income tax is a voluntary tax for the private citizens.....but dont pay it and the IRS comes down, looking you over with a magnifying glass! this is no BS fellows, you got to be careful when playing the anti income tax game.

[Kärnfysikern]

So none of you guys want the benefits of interstate highways, a standing army to protect us from other countries invading and terrorism, any public works or service that you can name, public education, shall I continue?

Good post.

People want all those things but no one wants to pay for it.

[STYLE74]

Good post.

People want all those things but no one wants to pay for it.

Hey u guys have valid points and i am for taxes to pay for army schooling and all that, but when i see specials on tv about how students don't have books and the goverment used millions of dollars that were supposed to be for students computers and stuff like that it pisses me off, and when i'm driving ovr a bridge or on a road that looks like it's ready to calapse it kind of makes me think. Where are our tax dollars going?

[Kärnfysikern]

Hey u guys have valid points and i am for taxes to pay for army schooling and all that, but when i see specials on tv about how students don't have books and the goverment used millions of dollars that were supposed to be for students computers and stuff like that it pisses me off, and when i'm driving ovr a bridge or on a road that looks like it's ready to calapse it kind of makes me think. Where are our tax dollars going?

Yeah I agree that ALOT of tax money goes to stupid things.

If I where living in the usa the first thing I would be pissed about is several tremendously expensive projects like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA-22_Raptor

By the time all 183 jets have been purchased, around $28 billion will have been spent on research and development, with an additional $34 billion spent on actually procuring the aircraft.

that almost 5 times the entire yearly NASA budget!! Seems pretty unbelivable to pour that much money into one single fighter project

Here in sweden the spending Im most pissed over is on imigrants, unemployment and social security. Seems like alot of people are becoming to lazy to work here. Its obvious alot of money is beeing wasted on stupid things since we have among the highest taxes in the world but still have a struggling healthcare system right now and rising crime.

[thegodfather]

Yeah I agree that ALOT of tax money goes to stupid things.

If I where living in the usa the first thing I would be pissed about is several tremendously expensive projects like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FA-22_Raptor


that almost 5 times the entire yearly NASA budget!! Seems pretty unbelivable to pour that much money into one single fighter project

Here in sweden the spending Im most pissed over is on imigrants, unemployment and social security. Seems like alot of people are becoming to lazy to work here. Its obvious alot of money is beeing wasted on stupid things since we have among the highest taxes in the world but still have a struggling healthcare system right now and rising crime.

Air superiority comes at a high price it looks like. See, I have no problem with DEFENSE spending.

[STYLE74]

Right johan and the list goes on and on, we could literally sit here all day and speak about foolish things that the goverment does with our tax dollars. I'm sure you follow world news johan and see also what is going on here with all this imigration reform and social security and healthcare as well, it's just one big fvckjob for millions of american people that are born here and can't find work and old people who have no healthcare, we are at war, fuel prices are through the roof, all the fighting in the middle east. Things are just so crazy right now and they don't seem to be getting better. Goverments are just legit criminals and no one can stop them!

[Kärnfysikern]

Air superiority comes at a high price it looks like. See, I have no problem with DEFENSE spending.

I dont know anything about that kind of technology. But the cost doesnt add upp in my head. If a space shuttle fleet can be operated at around 6 billion a year it doesnt seem like spending 60 billion on a fighterjet would be needed. It just smells fishy to me.

I mean the russians are making aircrafts that are just about as good as american jets and I doubt they put 50+ billion into r&d and production.

The big question in my mind is if the money would have done more good distributed on several different "smaller" defense projects.

[STYLE74]

I dont know anything about that kind of technology. But the cost doesnt add upp in my head. If a space shuttle fleet can be operated at around 6 billion a year it doesnt seem like spending 60 billion on a fighterjet would be needed. It just smells fishy to me.

I mean the russians are making aircrafts that are just about as good as american jets and I doubt they put 50+ billion into r&d and production.

The big question in my mind is if the money would have done more good distributed on several different "smaller" defense projects.

I agree with you fully johan. That is alot of dough!!

[toofatbuilder]

lmfao, i havent filed for taxes in like 4 years. i gotta do it soon before i got to jail for tax evasion.... lmfao. just another charge i guess

[STYLE74]

I pay taxes every year, even though i hate to.