First date suggestions/where to take her

[gixxerboy1]

Any girl i ever dated or even know as a friend if a guy tried to take them to Walmart as a first date they would call a cab from the parking lot.

[Bojangles69]

FOR THE RECORD.

i hate bowling... some women ask men how much money they make and what kind of car they drive .. Not me

I ask if they bowl and if their sure they like women - to me the anwers tot hese questions will either win me over or make me walk away. (Men usually think me asking them if they bowl is a trick questiona nd they lie and say YEs- Dumbasses..)

this is called shit testing for the guys who dont know why women do it, but all of them have thier own little tests.
best way to pass is to just not take them.
like if mizfit asks me if "im sure i like women" ill respond "what about you and your own doubts of your sexuality would make you ask such a question?" (implying she might be a dude) but never answer YES or NO.
a lot of times youll fail with both answers, mizfit will tell you otherwise because woman code tells her to not let the male gender know the answers to the test.

[Bojangles69]

Any girl i ever dated or even know as a friend if a guy tried to take them to Walmart as a first date they would call a cab from the parking lot.

yeh it doesnt work with tools.. forgot to mention that.

[Bojangles69]

I give out fake numbers

I have a friend who doesn't get much traffic and pretend to be her - so the number will get them some where

guys EASY way to get past this BS.

when they HAND you thier number simply say this is your real # right?

they ALWAYS will say YES.

you say ok cool, just take your phone out and start dialing the # right there, youll know before the call goes through whether shes a flake or not and shell look like a complete fool. i love when women try to pull this crap on me.

[gixxerboy1]

yeh it doesnt work with tools.. forgot to mention that.

I don't think it works with girls outside of Monmouth county They are a class with in themselves. Thank god i dont live in NJ anymore.

[Superhuman]

guys EASY way to get past this BS.

when they HAND you thier number simply say this is your real # right?

they ALWAYS will say YES.

you say ok cool, just take your phone out and start dialing the # right there, youll know before the call goes through whether shes a flake or not and shell look like a complete fool. i love when women try to pull this crap on me.

that makes u look like a creep - like your testing her when u just met her... or worse like you are used to being rejected. I DO NOT ask for numbers anymore. I'll talk to girls and if they are interested then I just tell them to come see me @ the club on the weekend

OR i will say "well just give me a call and we can figure out something to do together" and then start to walk away and typically they will say "u never gave me your number!" and i will write it down for them.

if a girl ever offers to give me her number I will say something like I don't have my phone with me or "why don't u just call me because i'm really busy i'd hate to forget to call u". I am sooooo done with calling girls. If they are interested then they will call me. I've got my own wonderful life to live and if they want to be a part of it then they can take action, haha!

[Superhuman]

...u know I guess there are some cases where u should ask for a number - like if you're in a grocery store or something or @ the gym and u see some bangin girl. in that case I just go right up to her and say something like "hey, i've seen u in here and u look absolutely gorgeous. if you're not seeing anybody maybe we could go out sometime?" - immediately u can tell if she is interested or not. I go into every situation as if I am gracing them with my presence... as if they are DAMN lucky that I am even talking to them... which is pretty much the truth anyway, right? lol

[dan991]

Just listen to the 504 Boyz song entitled "I Can Tell." Then, go tell her the song makes you think of her

That..

or ask her if she's interested in a meaningful one night stand. Then, when she asks you what you mean by "meaningful" tell her "meaning I ain't callin' your ass afterwards."

[pumpd4lif]

bro just walk in there and walk up to the window say hey ashe will say do u have an apointment u say no well i was in the area and i figured i would make it in person and she will say ok what date is good for u and u say ahh maybe (a late night ur not working preferably a time the office is closed)and she will say oh well we dont have hours at that time and u say oh honey u miss understood me i ment an apointment with u .totaly catching her off gaurd she will be all urs for the taking .of course u will have to monipulate the conversation so it goes ur way but i know as ur brother u are very good at that
and u should take her to one of those habaci grills were they cook the food rite infront of u bro trust me it is a good time a little sokee wont hurt u deserve it.and that will be plenty for the night no need to take her to the movies.just take her home after maybe a walk around some were and call it a night.

ps im a pimp

[Bojangles69]

that makes u look like a creep - like your testing her when u just met her...

NO IT DOESNT. you make yourself look like a creep way before that shit which is why if she gives a fake number she'll perceive you as the creep you are which is why she gave you fake digits the first place. IF she DOESNT, and gives you a real number, chances are shes attracted to you and a lot of what you do will be perceived in a good way because shes in an attraction induced state of mind. She will think 1) Your socially savy 2) Your funny (if you smile when you do it and dont frown like some weirdo) 3) You dont tolerate flakey people and arent afraid to take a stand 4) You dont care what other people think of you and are secure 5) the list is infinite..

or worse like you are used to being rejected. I DO NOT ask for numbers anymore. I'll talk to girls and if they are interested then I just tell them to come see me @ the club on the weekend

"Use to being rejected" isnt relevant because its AFTER you asked her for her number, AFTER you've established some attraction and comfort with her to afford you her number. Shes already hooked, and to backwards rationalize shes thinking more accurately if anything YOU DONT CARE if you get rejected. Because you have the balls and common sense to qualify her to you, not the other way around.

OR i will say "well just give me a call and we can figure out something to do together" and then start to walk away and typically they will say "u never gave me your number!" and i will write it down for them.

ahh im not even going here, woman NEVER call you the first time. i had one girl do this my WHOLE life and she also called me like 36 times the first week. dont make me submit proof why woman dont call.

if a girl ever offers to give me her number I will say something like I don't have my phone with me or "why don't u just call me because i'm really busy i'd hate to forget to call u". I am sooooo done with calling girls. If they are interested then they will call me. I've got my own wonderful life to live and if they want to be a part of it then they can take action, haha!

OMFG. Im sorry, but the "if they are interested they will call me" line i can write 5 books about. Mizfit please explain something to him. It may be logical to you super but theres a million and one reasons why a girl wont call a guy EVEN if hes fvcking brad pitt!! im not getting into this though because your happy with your life so its irrelevant..

[Superhuman]

OMFG. Im sorry, but the "if they are interested they will call me" line i can write 5 books about. Mizfit please explain something to him. It may be logical to you super but theres a million and one reasons why a girl wont call a guy EVEN if hes fvcking brad pitt!! im not getting into this though because your happy with your life so its irrelevant..

LOL well I guess you are right for the most part but I have had a lot of girls call me first. This has only started to happen recently though, within the last year when I have become much more comfortable with who I am and what my purpose is in life... before when I used to hit on girls it was awkward and I would always expect to be rejected - which inadvertantly showed.

I have decided to respect myself more than I used to and I don't just settle for random sluts anymore - no matter how hot they are. Currently, most of the girls I "talk to" happen to be from the club and DO call me first but this is after I have seen them many times there and chatted/flirted with them.

Honestly though, I think rules are ridiculous... my philosophy on life is to take EVERY situation, EVERY person on an individual basis. Before, I wouldn't even think of dating a woman who was 8 years older than me with 2 kids, but now that I have gotten to know her that COULD possibly be in my future - who knows?

[ginkobulloba]

this is called shit testing for the guys who dont know why women do it, but all of them have thier own little tests.
best way to pass is to just not take them.
like if mizfit asks me if "im sure i like women" ill respond "what about you and your own doubts of your sexuality would make you ask such a question?" (implying she might be a dude) but never answer YES or NO.
a lot of times youll fail with both answers, mizfit will tell you otherwise because woman code tells her to not let the male gender know the answers to the test.

Dude, I've read your responses and now I know...you know what a shit test is. That means you're into seduction as well. That's why I don't spend much time at this site, there are far more valuable lessons to be learned and this isn't the place to learn most of them. Fast seduction, mystery method, The Game, David D. Can't tell me you don't know about that stuff. I'm over at Fast seduction as well. The stuff I've learned has taken my game to a new level. You should see my gf now. She's a 10 and eating from the palm of my hand...well, some days. It's a work in progress.

[Bojangles69]

Honestly though, I think rules are ridiculous... my philosophy on life is to take EVERY situation, EVERY person on an individual basis. knows?

That totally respectable bro. And who knows? Maybe one day Ill find myself in your shoes..

But as a sidenote. Are your "philosophies" not as much your "rules" as my "rules" are my "philosophies"?
They both share the common link of governing human behavoir.
You treat people individually and you should, because they ARE all unique. Yet we are ALL also human. And with that fact we share many links and commonalities as well.
These links, these commonalities, are the foundations I base my rules/philosophies upon. And experience has more than validated these rules just as they have validated your "philosophies".

[Deluge1]

**** man don't take her anywhere. Invite her over and cook her dinner or something. Don't let her get into the whole mindset of the courtship thing like Bo said: "Take her to Dinner and MAYBE get a goodnight kiss".



If you do insist on going on a formal date do NOT spend a lot of money.


YOU are the prize, not her. Never forget that.

[Bojangles69]

Dude, I've read your responses and now I know...you know what a shit test is. That means you're into seduction as well. That's why I don't spend much time at this site, there are far more valuable lessons to be learned and this isn't the place to learn most of them. Fast seduction, mystery method, The Game, David D. Can't tell me you don't know about that stuff. I'm over at Fast seduction as well. The stuff I've learned has taken my game to a new level. You should see my gf now. She's a 10 and eating from the palm of my hand...well, some days. It's a work in progress.

Ahh fvck. This was an aspect of my life i wanted to keep under the carpet as many people here dont understand what we do or why we do it. They dont understand our desires are of a purely unselfish nature, that we dont manipulate women, because manipulation implies doing for YOU. We do for THEM. To make a woman emotionally, physically and spiritually feel like they never thought was possible.
But yes, Ive been in for almost 2 years now, and with everything Ive gained through social dynamics and I can honestly say I look forward to nothing more in my life than applying what Ive worked so hard to learn.
I still swing in FS everynow and then but MM is the shit encase you didnt realize. Thier forums, lairs, and wing meetings are all up to date. Plus at SS you get a crapload more newbies over there. But all in all it was my initiation into this so it will always be part of my foundation.
And yeh i hear ya on the 10 eating out the palm of my hand thing, people may get the wrong idea but they dont realize shes eating out the palm of your hand because thats how much you've learned how to please her and thats she happy with you more than any other chump shes prob met in a while.

[Bojangles69]

**** man don't take her anywhere. Invite her over and cook her dinner or something. Don't let her get into the whole mindset of the courtship thing like Bo said: "Take her to Dinner and MAYBE get a goodnight kiss".



If you do insist on going on a formal date do NOT spend a lot of money.


YOU are the prize, not her. Never forget that.

And deluge is cool too ginko

[Deluge1]

And deluge is cool too ginko

Haha Bo's gonna have his own DVD series in a few years. And I'm gonna be a guest speaker!

Hahaha.

One day.

[THE_DOME]

dude something thats interactive so that you can actually feel her out if you know what i mean

[Superhuman]

That totally respectable bro. And who knows? Maybe one day Ill find myself in your shoes..

But as a sidenote. Are your "philosophies" not as much your "rules" as my "rules" are my "philosophies"?
They both share the common link of governing human behavoir.
You treat people individually and you should, because they ARE all unique. Yet we are ALL also human. And with that fact we share many links and commonalities as well.
These links, these commonalities, are the foundations I base my rules/philosophies upon. And experience has more than validated these rules just as they have validated your "philosophies".

hmm, you are very smart. I would say that my philosophies on life are constantly evolving and I may feel completely different a year from now about this exact same idea. I think that ideally each person would take things on an individual basis, however it does tend to be safer and MUCH easier to make generalizations about people.

[Mizfit]

this is called shit testing for the guys who dont know why women do it, but all of them have thier own little tests.
best way to pass is to just not take them.
like if mizfit asks me if "im sure i like women" ill respond "what about you and your own doubts of your sexuality would make you ask such a question?" (implying she might be a dude) but never answer YES or NO.
a lot of times youll fail with both answers, mizfit will tell you otherwise because woman code tells her to not let the male gender know the answers to the test.

Nah few straight men will claim to be gay - my reasonings for asking this question r very simple- it's happened to me

The bowling one yes - gauranteed failure

[Mizfit]

Dude, I've read your responses and now I know...you know what a shit test is. That means you're into seduction as well. That's why I don't spend much time at this site, there are far more valuable lessons to be learned and this isn't the place to learn most of them. Fast seduction, mystery method, The Game, David D. Can't tell me you don't know about that stuff. I'm over at Fast seduction as well. The stuff I've learned has taken my game to a new level. You should see my gf now. She's a 10 and eating from the palm of my hand...well, some days. It's a work in progress.

Assumptions,

And boasting to make yourself look better

YEAH

[Foskamink]

bojangles u are the god.. TEACH ME.. i need help.. i have problems and i need ur guidence..

[Mizfit]

guys EASY way to get past this BS.

when they HAND you thier number simply say this is your real # right?

they ALWAYS will say YES.

you say ok cool, just take your phone out and start dialing the # right there, youll know before the call goes through whether shes a flake or not and shell look like a complete fool. i love when women try to pull this crap on me.

What if i don't got my cell phone on me -

Plus the number igive matches the name provided as well

My name is sandra (it's a chubby friends number)

[Mizfit]

A truly smart woman doesn't fall for all this BS - I hope some of you guys get this.

I don't want to be seduced if what your presentingis not who or what you actually are. don't create an image of what you think i want unless you can live up to it.

[ginkobulloba]

Fair enough, I wouldn't want to seduce a chick who spends a good amount of time on a steroid website. A bit odd, don't ya think?

[gixxerboy1]

Even if you get a lot of girls its not that impressive if you cant do it being yourself. You shouldn't have to follow a process. If your young and trying to just get laid, hey go for it. But eventually your going to meet a girl you want to stay with. You can't keep up some act and process for ever.
Guys bitch that girls always play games. It sound like that's what you guys are doing. I used to get tons of girls and the quality of them are A++. But I do it by being my self. If a girl isn't interest in me for me. Oh well.

Bojangles. I'm curious since your 24 what age girls are you using your method on? I don't picture it working on successful girls or confident girls in their late 20's

[Mizfit]

Fair enough, I wouldn't want to seduce a chick who spends a good amount of time on a steroid website. A bit odd, don't ya think?

Good for u.

Some of us can do this from work.

U must be a tool

[Deluge1]

A truly smart woman doesn't fall for all this BS - I hope some of you guys get this.

I don't want to be seduced if what your presentingis not who or what you actually are. don't create an image of what you think i want unless you can live up to it.

Again you're looking at this the wrong way. Many of you don't understand the ideology of the whole thing is to give woman what THEY want. Not what they think they want, but whats been hammered into their psyche over the last million years.

The ENTIRE process is creating and keeping attraction. Is there really anytthign wrong with that?

[Mizfit]

Again you're looking at this the wrong way. Many of you don't understand the ideology of the whole thing is to give woman what THEY want. Not what they think they want, but whats been hammered into their psyche over the last million years.

The ENTIRE process is creating and keeping attraction. Is there really anytthign wrong with that?

so women call it manipulation and men call it seduction - cool.

[Deluge1]

so women call it manipulation and men call it seduction - cool.

That was cute.

Women manipulate men to get what THEY want.

Men seduce women to give women what women want.

[Bojangles69]

What if i don't got my cell phone on me -

haha thats still completely irrelevant, do you have something called a voicemail?
like "hi this is mizfit please leave your name and # and ill get back to you as soon as possible"?

Plus the number igive matches the name provided as well

Trust me when i say it would obviously work on a few guys, but the point is these guys are raising your defense shield to begin by implying thier trying to get with you. i do some footwork first, get a general respect and attraction from the women, than ask her name. any semi-stable woman without baggage will give you thier real name. i can tell if a womans genuinenly interested, i just calibrate and judge accordingly. i dont just impose myself on her and say "yo bitch lemme get dem digits"

My name is sandra (it's a chubby friends number)

this is about 300X's more manipulative than anything you would perceive a man to be doing, never ceases to amaze me how a woman will go through all this BS (maybe to qualify to her friends? let them know they get approached by so many men they need a fake allius) when a simple "no, im not interested" is the solution to EVERYTHING. since woman dont think logically like this, men have to finagle thier way around thier flakey tendencies.

[Bojangles69]

Even if you get a lot of girls its not that impressive if you cant do it being yourself. You shouldn't have to follow a process. If your young and trying to just get laid, hey go for it. But eventually your going to meet a girl you want to stay with. You can't keep up some act and process for ever.
Guys bitch that girls always play games. It sound like that's what you guys are doing. I used to get tons of girls and the quality of them are A++. But I do it by being my self. If a girl isn't interest in me for me. Oh well.

Bojangles. I'm curious since your 24 what age girls are you using your method on? I don't picture it working on successful girls or confident girls in their late 20's

it works on any age, on any type of chick. the only thing it doesnt work on are extraneous factors like her cat just died, shes got a bf (or 3) shes a nutso, shes sexually repressed, afraid of he own sexuality because she was raped, molested, etc.
point is it applies to FEMALES as a gender, not as a certain age group or class.

[Bojangles69]

so women call it manipulation and men call it seduction - cool.

how the hell is it manipulation? only a fool can be manipulated, and im not attracted to fools.
we're doin you a favor because the less men are afraid to make themselves avialable to you the MORE of a chance YOU have at ending up with a good one.
call it what ever youd like, we're doing you a favor in a million and one ways.

i dont even call it "seducing" a woman. seducing's an ego based word, and dont get me started on how many ego based words women have.

[Bojangles69]

Good for u.

Some of us can do this from work.

U must be a tool

i can give 2 shits that you are like one of a few only active female members on this site. and i think its pretty cool if anything. +as we all know its when you actually get to know someone when your opinion of them really matters... and even then your opinion still doesnt matter lol

[gixxerboy1]

Hey what ever works for you. Me just being me seems to work good.

But it does sound very egotistical. That you think you have all the answers. And you honestly believe you are doing women a favor.

[Mizfit]

i can give 2 shits that you are like one of a few only active female members on this site. and i think its pretty cool if anything. +as we all know its when you actually get to know someone when your opinion of them really matters... and even then your opinion still doesnt matter lol

Ur not a tool

The other dude.

You got to remember guys we are also all from different parts of the world.

In toronto men, don't seem t take no for an answer - so my little song and dance when they attempt seduction or to sway me - is often a result of what i am confronted with.

[Mizfit]

how the hell is it manipulation? only a fool can be manipulated, and im not attracted to fools.
we're doin you a favor because the less men are afraid to make themselves avialable to you the MORE of a chance YOU have at ending up with a good one.
call it what ever youd like, we're doing you a favor in a million and one ways.

i dont even call it "seducing" a woman. seducing's an ego based word, and dont get me started on how many ego based words women have.

haha - i'm friends with alot of girls who think they r gods gift to men. - i know a million different terms they refer to themselves as to boast their own egos - and most of them r good at it.

Actions too r hilarious

[Bojangles69]

A truly smart woman doesn't fall for all this BS - I hope some of you guys get this.

first off there is no such thing as a "truly smart" woman. you simply have your own perception of what "truly smart" means to you. i view a truley smart woman as someone who is openminded and realizes almost anything is possible.

I don't want to be seduced if what your presentingis not who or what you actually are. don't create an image of what you think i want unless you can live up to it.

yeh this is surface generalizing, i dont present anything but myself to a woman. thing is "myself" is growing/evolving/changing everyday. so my given self will be different a month from now than it is today.
we are creating an image of what WE WANT, than that IMAGE becomes our own identity and we create new images to strive for.
You do it to, unless you dont dream, aspire or strive to improve yourself. (which 100% of humans do) Same way you picture yourself in a higher status at work or in life in general is the same way we aspire to be better MEN, not seducers or w/e the hell your generalizing this is about.

[Bojangles69]

Ur not a tool

The other dude.

You got to remember guys we are also all from different parts of the world.

In toronto men, don't seem t take no for an answer - so my little song and dance when they attempt seduction or to sway me - is often a result of what i am confronted with.

well ill drop a bomb on you, if the guys KNEW the shit that i teach people, they WOULD take no for an answer. so thats even more incentive for you to make guys wanna get a clue and learn some basic shit..

[Mizfit]

Trust me when i say it would obviously work on a few guys, but the point is these guys are raising your defense shield to begin by implying thier trying to get with you. i do some footwork first, get a general respect and attraction from the women, than ask her name. any semi-stable woman without baggage will give you thier real name. i can tell if a womans genuinenly interested, i just calibrate and judge accordingly. i dont just impose myself on her and say "yo bitch lemme get dem digits".

Sadly i have gotten this a bit.. so i feel pressure and press back.

this is about 300X's more manipulative than anything you would perceive a man to be doing, never ceases to amaze me how a woman will go through all this BS (maybe to qualify to her friends? let them know they get approached by so many men they need a fake allius) when a simple "no, im not interested" is the solution to EVERYTHING. since woman dont think logically like this, men have to finagle thier way around thier flakey tendencies.

Yes you're correct sir about it being manipulative - but when someone is trying to tell you what you want and u want nothing to do with it - it get's boring fast.

This i'm not interested thing has not worked for me in most cases.

You call it flakey behaviour but the truth is sometimes we know what we want and it might not be what is on the menu that night